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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19375155 - 01/05/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19375265 - 01/05/14 11:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Like I was saying..G Glutinosus will be instrumental with fukushima..but it doesn't address the pacific ocean, which is dying and still, just  because a melanin rich fungi can use radiation to thrive doesn't mean it can protect a person from the radiation. The radiation is emanating from a source...it's constant. lol


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19375283 - 01/05/14 11:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Please review the materials released in this thread.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19375305 - 01/05/14 11:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Please review the materials released in this thread.




Was that a general statement or where you talking to me? lol


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19375310 - 01/05/14 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am talking to You.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19375333 - 01/05/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've read everything in this thread...im' not sure what you are getting at by asking me to review it.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19376156 - 01/06/14 07:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:hatsoff:


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19376882 - 01/06/14 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/lifeforms-can-clean-up-radiation-naturally.html





Does the presence of melanin make the mushrooms just accumulate radiation byproducts as waste (to then be disposed). or would a species without melanin reactoionary biochemistry (or an altertanitve mechanism of biochemistry) instead convert it into inertia? Inertia converting organisms may be more useful if they exist... (inertia being a type of fuel that would only temporarily exist as a metabolite... as opposed to an accumulated toxin)


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: curiositydream]
    #19386073 - 01/08/14 12:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've decided I like the term bio-restoration too...that is all... :smile:


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: curiositydream]
    #19386076 - 01/08/14 12:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/lifeforms-can-clean-up-radiation-naturally.html





Does the presence of melanin make the mushrooms just accumulate radiation byproducts as waste (to then be disposed). or would a species without melanin reactoionary biochemistry (or an altertanitve mechanism of biochemistry) instead convert it into inertia? Inertia converting organisms may be more useful if they exist... (inertia being a type of fuel that would only temporarily exist as a metabolite... as opposed to an accumulated toxin)



It's like photosynthesis..


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19386967 - 01/08/14 08:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've decided I like the term bio-restoration too...that is all... :smile:



the catch all for phyto, rhizo and myco remediation.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19392687 - 01/09/14 08:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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This is a bit of a change in topic, but here's another reason we need to talk about bioremediation and mycoremediation:
http://topinfopost.com/2013/12/26/fukushima-radiation-hits-san-francisco

Geiger counters are sold on the net:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=geiger






http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/all-the-best-scientifically-verified-information-on-fukushima-impacts/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Are high radiation readings being observed on the west coast of the United States?  No doubt you seen the video of a man in San Francisco, California using a Geiger Counter showing high radiation readings on the beach.  Dan Sythe is the CEO of International Medcom Inc. that develops and produces radiation detection instruments and systems. Dan has a list of impressive credentials on everything Geiger Counter related. At the Geiger Counter Bulletin, he tests the same California sand and compares it to readings from Fukushima. Take Home: The radiation signature in the coastal sands is normal and is not the same as from Fukushima.  Favorite Quote: “The radionuclides are in the NORM class of radioactive substances, not from Fukushima. NORM stands for Naturally Occurring Radioactive Material…If the sand were contaminated by radiation from Fukushima it would show Cesium 137 [it does not].”  Super Favorite Bonus Quote: “The radiation level [in the sand] is elevated, but roughly equivalent to some granite counter top material from Brazil.”


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: SnowArcher]
    #19392705 - 01/09/14 08:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Snow...whether the radiation is from fukushima or not, it's a pressing concern...because there have been odd spikes in the radiation lvl on beaches on the west coast...it is an interesting coincidence if this has nothing to do with the radioactive wave hit the coast now....that would spell even bigger problems because that would equal TWO sources for high radiation lvls..


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19392722 - 01/09/14 09:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Isolate the best melanin producing sub-strains...cultivate them to the utmost extreme..give them to these guys...have them produce enough for the populations...slam dunk..game over...mycologists win again...:laugh: ...perhaps. :wink:

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-04/melanized-nanoparticles-may-protect-cancer-patients-radiation-damage

They are talking about cancer patients right now...but the treatment would make anyone resistant to radiation..


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: curiositydream]
    #19394514 - 01/09/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Does the presence of melanin make the mushrooms just accumulate radiation byproducts as waste (to then be disposed).




I don't know as of this moment. Let's do a bit of co-investigating and see what we come up with.

Also, just found this:

http://science.time.com/2014/01/08/why-some-mushrooms-may-be-magic-for-climate-change/


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19395561 - 01/09/14 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No it doesn't......the radiation is used much the same way plants use sunlight for photosynthesis...


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19397618 - 01/10/14 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Again...it seems to be a constant sticking point in peoples understanding of how the melanin producers work. There is a difference between radiation and isotopes. We focus more on the hyper-accumulation of isotopes in practicing myco-remediation of nuclear sites..many people don't seem to understand that RADIATION is LIGHT... it doesn't get up-taken and stored by the fungus..People seem to constantly want to apply the methods for remediation with species like G Glutinosus to the melanin producers found at Chernobyl...it just doesn't work the same way.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19406024 - 01/11/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was speaking to Maya from Radical Mycology at the fungus fair yesterday, and told her that I do not think that mushrooms are useful to remediate radiation, and she looked super bummed.


Is there any way we can make this work?    Or is it just a stupid idea?


Does anyone have any cesium-137 that we can run tests with?   


The first order of business, I guess, is discovering a saprotrophic mushroom that concentrates cesium.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19406119 - 01/11/14 10:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The first order of business, I guess, is discovering a saprotrophic mushroom that concentrates cesium.




The Chernobyl exclusion zone would be the best place to find mushroom fits the bill, if one is out there.


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