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A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber
    #19374298 - 01/05/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys i just wanted to clear up some questions and just get a second opinion on what im about to set up fruiting chamber setup wise and just general procedure.

So im about to modify my shotgun terrarium and maybe upgrade into something that is not really called anything i just thought that after a solid two months of growing mushrooms i think i have the knowledge to build a solid fruiting chamber that suites my schedule.

For starters this is the mock up for the new chamber.

Things to get:
Water pump with mister kit.
Air pump, and box.
coffee filters.
Two containers that fit snug when stacked on top of each other.
aquarium water heater.
pertlight.
polyfill.
Timers.

What im puzzled about is that if there is an air pump, i do not really need holes like a shotgun, right? But then that also brings up another question. Should i make some holes with poylfill to let some CO2 and air exchange out of the case?

Second, i have never really attempted the incubator method with a fruiting chamber to maintain a nice 80 F. So where would the polyfill holes come into play, on the lid? But they have to be down low to let CO2 escape right?

So this is my vision of the case.



This is looking at if from the front side. now i just dont think its right to have polyfill going threw both containers, i just dont know what to do with them i feel like i need some air to escape i just dont really know where.

Now the air pump and the misters are going to be timed so that the misters go off for a min or two then the air will be pumped in there right after to promote evaporation.

Now the misters i was going to aim them away from the cakes more so pointing them at the walls of the chamber but not too much i want the water in the air, im sure you guys know.

The air pump was going to be ran in its own box punched with holes and covered with coffee filters so it will just pump in clean air.

Lastly i just want to know the definition of FAE i cannot find it any where and i see it all the time in these forms, does it have to do with evaporation or gas exchange or something along thoes lines, if someone could answer that, thanks.


If anyone has any ideas on how this can be improved let me know. Also if someone can help me with what to do with this CO2 and polyfill hole placement that be really helpful.

Thanks for reading,

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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: thedreammachine]
    #19374328 - 01/05/14 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Or ya can build a proper shotgun fruiting chamber and not need like 2/3rds of That crap with probable better results


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: fatflash]
    #19374332 - 01/05/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Frank? Notahacker? Where are you gents ?



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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: fatflash]
    #19374335 - 01/05/14 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think the main problem is that you are missing out on evaporation. It will probably be plenty humid but when do the cake experience evaporation?


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #19374346 - 01/05/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i'm just kidding co2 doesn't sink it gets mixed with the natural air a rises with heat currents, but your making it much more work then needed, put that effort into a gh not a sgfc


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #19374403 - 01/05/14 07:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

56qt tote works good for me
1/4" inch holes on ALL 6 sides! 2×2
And fill with 4-5 inches of perlite
Boom done
Mist 3-4 times a day
fanning right after misting

Ergo happy large fruits :thumbup:


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: fatflash]
    #19374419 - 01/05/14 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

  :themoreyouknow:


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: mudbutt]
    #19374440 - 01/05/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You are going to have one hell of a time trying to get that monstrosity dialed in. I really don't think a FC should be incubated either. 80 degrees seem a little hi for fruiting. its only 71 in my GH right now and my fruits are growing very well.


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: thedreammachine]
    #19374475 - 01/05/14 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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thedreammachine said:


What im puzzled about is that if there is an air pump, i do not really need holes like a shotgun, right? But then that also brings up another question. Should i make some holes with poylfill to let some CO2 and air exchange out of the case?




holes are great, stale air is more the issue, you need to find a way to get passive/constant fae

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Second, i have never really attempted the incubator method with a fruiting chamber to maintain a nice 80 F. So where would the polyfill holes come into play, on the lid? But they have to be down low to let CO2 escape right?





don't bother incubating your chamber you will cause lots of condensation which will take from your humidity and as i said already co2 doesn't sink

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i just dont know what to do with them i feel like i need some air to escape i just dont really know where.





everywhere,1/4inch holes 2 inches apart in a grid pattern;)

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The air pump was going to be ran in its own box punched with holes and covered with coffee filters so it will just pump in clean air.





coffee filters won't do squat, and fruiting isn't a sterile process anyway
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Lastly i just want to know the definition of FAE i cannot find it any where and i see it all the time in these forms, does it have to do with evaporation or gas exchange or something along thoes lines, if someone could answer that, thanks.






it's fresh air exchange and it's exactly how it sounds but for best performance you want a good balance of this an rh and for most set ups if you focus on this more then rh you will have better results, as you get fae you get good evaporation off your sub, the evaporation gives 100%humidity on the surface of your substrate so it's always good to get some constant fae, fanning it out isn't a good replacement for this


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: thedreammachine]
    #19375079 - 01/05/14 10:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys I guess I was going a little over board on the whole thing, just excited after having a good yield the first time I thought that this could of been a better way, guess simpler is better in this case.

Thanks for the feedback


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: thedreammachine]
    #19375093 - 01/05/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

keep it simple and there are fewer things to go wrong. good luck with your future grows.


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19375126 - 01/05/14 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Get a few grows under your belt, then move on up to monotubs, the ultimate in automation. Make up the tub and ignore for a week. Remove tape and stuff poly into holes, ignore for another week. Have a look and take a pic for cronicr, ignore for another week. Come back, take another picture for cronicr, harvest, dehydrate, done :awesomenod:


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19375128 - 01/05/14 10:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i fucking love that plan:rockon:


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: cronicr]
    #19375132 - 01/05/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I knew ya would :wink:


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19375354 - 01/05/14 11:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Don't forget your flux capacitor...



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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: Nakor420]
    #19375361 - 01/06/14 12:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19375362 - 01/06/14 12:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Get a few grows under your belt, then move on up to monotubs, the ultimate in automation. Make up the tub and ignore for a week. Remove tape and stuff poly into holes, ignore for another week. Have a look and take a pic for cronicr, ignore for another week. Come back, take another picture for cronicr, harvest, dehydrate, done :awesomenod:




That's a great tek right there!  :takingnotes:


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Re: A second oppinion would be awesome. Automated Fruiting chamber [Re: thedreammachine]
    #19375433 - 01/06/14 12:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread again...
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