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absols
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Chronic7]
#19371306 - 01/05/14 03:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Chronic said:
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Icelander said: How much of your life would you give up to have that perfect day?
The problem as I see it here is that once that moment is over it's over.
Btw you guys all rock. I'm glad you're all here. 
If i give up all of my life, all my future, all my past, all i have left is the perfection of the moment
how do you invent that ?? what is a moment of you without all you being truly present and free
there is no such thing as an objective moment .. present or time is only subjective free present individuals wills or selves realities moves
giving up for what is truly superior, is first for truth value so what is in fact objectively existing right and relatively is for being through positive realms, including nothing when you deal exclusively with superior facts
so giving up is about never being negative as an objective right
Edited by absols (01/05/14 03:49 AM)
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19371356 - 01/05/14 04:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm all my best moments seem to have happened completely by chance..
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19371438 - 01/05/14 05:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am really glad that you are getting such high satisfaction from (kratom) your personal psychedelic teddybear.
Lately I have located a small stash of psychedelic toys (LSZ and NBOME) that don't want me to squeeze them on a daily basis, but also provide an enhanced surround.
being hugged by some fluffy chemistry is not that bad. let there be many perfected moments
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19371450 - 01/05/14 05:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been having plenty of perfect moments lately, with all the acid I've been eating this past couple of months. 
Most of them are spent peaking on LSD with a cigar or a cigarette and a cup of tea on my balcony. I feel full of love and wonder and appreciation, all warm and fuzzy and cosy and electric under the sun, watching the beams of light glisten off the trees and the clouds rolling by. I feel like there's not enough time to take in all the beauty in the world and want those moments to last forever.
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Tmethyl]
#19371677 - 01/05/14 07:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds to me like you've never been seriously depressed or seriously in pain. Lucky boy.
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Into The Woods said: I've been having plenty of perfect moments lately, with all the acid I've been eating this past couple of months. 
Most of them are spent peaking on LSD with a cigar or a cigarette and a cup of tea on my balcony. I feel full of love and wonder and appreciation, all warm and fuzzy and cosy and electric under the sun, watching the beams of light glisten off the trees and the clouds rolling by. I feel like there's not enough time to take in all the beauty in the world and want those moments to last forever.
So if you could have never had those moments but would live to be 100 would you be willing to die now to have had them? That's basically my question.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19371735 - 01/05/14 08:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said:
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Into The Woods said: I've been having plenty of perfect moments lately, with all the acid I've been eating this past couple of months. 
Most of them are spent peaking on LSD with a cigar or a cigarette and a cup of tea on my balcony. I feel full of love and wonder and appreciation, all warm and fuzzy and cosy and electric under the sun, watching the beams of light glisten off the trees and the clouds rolling by. I feel like there's not enough time to take in all the beauty in the world and want those moments to last forever.
So if you could have never had those moments but would live to be 100 would you be willing to die now to have had them? That's basically my question.
Well if that's essentially your question, my answer is absofuckinglutely.
I've had a couple of perfect moments, though they've been short lived
- lying in the sun on mushrooms - a nice sunny day casually making shirts with friends and drinking tea - this one time while I was stoned all my fears and attachments fell away actually that was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. Totally unexpected; I was just browsing the web while a bit stoned and suddenly I started getting really, really high. Not cannabis high but mentally free from everything. Hard to explain just how it felt but I remember thinking it was big and then I started thinking well am I really free of fears and attachments? What if someone broke in to the house right now and pointed a gun at me? The idea evoked no feelings of anxiety whatsoever; I felt completely care free and accepting of whatever the moment was. Of course I woke up the next day to the same old habits 
Oh and it's nice having you around here Ice
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19371741 - 01/05/14 08:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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no. the whole idea smells badly what is a perfect moment? better than all others you have had (are you sure, is your memory that good) better than all moments reported by others (you could never evaluate the qualia) then to imagine you have such magical powers that you could exchange an unknowable future life for the unknowable perfect moment (either self measured or measured against all other beings (-how-)) well it just smells half baked and gone rotten
sorry
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Say whatever you like Red but it sounds like sour grapes to me.
My memory of that event is very etched and one of the few I'm pretty sure I don't remember as good as it actually was if I remember it at all.
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19371993 - 01/05/14 09:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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what you can do is begin an enshrinement to your perfect grape: poetry painting prayer/practice
your own personal pagoda to that moment which is barely recalled
the rest of your life can disappear in such an involvement and that wonderful moment will begin to live forever.
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19372049 - 01/05/14 09:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think "there" is different for everyone. Thought of you guys when I read this article:
The Eyes of Love: Do lovers’ eyes deceive them?
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It is incorrect to characterize a lover’s perspective as completely deluded or as fully accurate. Lovers’ sight takes place within a rosy framework which enables the lover to cope better with the beloved imperfections which are evident despite the rosy lens.
The above considerations can be encapsulated in the following statement that a lover might express: "Darling, I know that my idealization of you is somewhat far from reality, and therefore I will not experience disillusionment when I get to know you better.”
Attitude/Perspective wins every time.
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Icelander
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Not my style. I just think back fondly on it from time to time and work towards something similar. Kratom has a little bit of that for me these days and what inspired this thread.
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19372164 - 01/05/14 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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is there a kratom kathedral in your kards?
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Seems to be. I'm worshiping at the shrine about 4 pm each evening. When the peak is over I take some Kanna and then slip into a pretty intense dream time. At least lately that's been the case.
In the morning I play music and walk the dogs. By about 3 pm I'm starting to feel the first twinges of withdrawal. My day right now revolves in such an orbit. And it's a fairly pleasant one at this time, just about the right distance from the sun.
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19372665 - 01/05/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ahh 4pm, the early bird special you get the best value that way
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Yeah. Then I can be in bed by 9. The kanna helps me to crash softly and sleep. I've seriously enjoyed these days in the opium den.
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i'd trade every moment of my existence for that one 'perfect' moment
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: foliocb]
#19373690 - 01/05/14 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every moment is perfect.
For you exist in this moment and the choices you have made led you to this moment.
That is really all there is as i see it.
One perfect moment.
and i am having it right now
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Rincewind]
#19373838 - 01/05/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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got some supposedly amazing lsd on the way, I'm so ready for more hints of perfection to spice things up. it's been years, the river's gone dry and stale.
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Re: One perfect moment [Re: Icelander]
#19373862 - 01/05/14 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said:
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Into The Woods said: I've been having plenty of perfect moments lately, with all the acid I've been eating this past couple of months. 
Most of them are spent peaking on LSD with a cigar or a cigarette and a cup of tea on my balcony. I feel full of love and wonder and appreciation, all warm and fuzzy and cosy and electric under the sun, watching the beams of light glisten off the trees and the clouds rolling by. I feel like there's not enough time to take in all the beauty in the world and want those moments to last forever.
So if you could have never had those moments but would live to be 100 would you be willing to die now to have had them? That's basically my question.
No, I think I'd rather live for 100 years and have lots of near-perfect moments.
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