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Searching for love?
    #19373653 - 01/05/14 04:09 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)



In this video I take a Tom Smith original song "I only want to find my own love" and added imagery to it to express the search for love, at first you are looking for someone and that someone might have someone... but as the lyrics suggest we really only want to find our own love, the love that is in our heart... not a person... we are looking for love itself, that we can call our own. I hope this music video resonates and moves you to dive into your heart and  find your own love...

Discussion topics,

The video of course, the song


And isn't the search for somebody or romantic love, really just a search for our own spiritual heart, our own LOVE????


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #19376766 - 01/06/14 10:54 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Yes it is. I have noticed this from listening to love songs. Basically the theme of love songs is "you make me feel whole and your absence/rejection makes me feel empty".

Now this is exactly the same as the spiritual search, only in the spiritual search the lover and the beloved are God and the soul rather than two people. So when I hear love songs, all I hear is the search for God only people are searching for Him in each other rather than in their own hearts.

I believe this is also why there are so many divorces in our country. People are looking for wholeness and happiness and they think that they will find that in another person. When they fall in love, all the chemicals make them feel temporarily whole and so they get married and expect to live happily ever after. But of course the human heart was ultimately made for communion with God and not just another person, so couples who fail to understand this and expect their partners to make them happy inevitably end up disappointed and so they get divorced thinking the problem was the other person and when they find mr/mrs. right then they will finally have lasting happiness. It's really incredibly immature to expect someone else to make you happy and it's rather telling that so many adults in our society actually think thats how happiness works.


Edited by Deviate (01/06/14 11:00 AM)


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Deviate]
    #19376792 - 01/06/14 11:02 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

knowing this does nothing to accomplish it it seems like


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Deviate]
    #19376831 - 01/06/14 11:13 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

you talk about things as if everyone know already what it means .. so what new are you adding to ?? or why don't you separate your own means with everything if you mean really something particularly ??

what is that love thing ?? is it more then caring about something ? is it more then realizing something ? doing independently ? enjoying watching free ?? what is that love in your heart exactly ??

what I know, is that love goes with hate

like caring doesn't have an opposite because it is superior really
caring or not caring

while caring necessitate to point something objectively, so it is true

like also realizing, conscious recognitions of else, it goes with unconscious beings .. so not an opposite thing

doing independently, is positive freedom that goes with nothing freedom .. again nothing to worry about

also enjoying watching .. goes like with acting present relatively ... nothing to worry about either

so what is that love that goes with hate ??? do you know ?? I know ...

it is the hate of another in truth that is reversed to love yourself ... so really bad thing.. very dirty stuff .. evil are specialized of, like pretending being true .. by saying o but I love it it is me I cant but do that .. I cant hold myself.. absolutely freely

why would one hate another in truth necessarily ??

because one die when another exist .. there cant be but two, the edges of linear existence ways.. objective and subjective present existing right
in front and back
before and after ..
small and big
nothing and everything
so on

so there is no place of one and another in existence realms
this is why also we have gods that must represent absolute present values

this is how freedom is justified being existence truth

one must never see the other ..

so love my ass ...

who would love himself ??? hen ??? the one getting it, right ??? who would get himself ?? created being, right ??? how a created being could love anything ?? this is the mystery of all times

seen here all your love ... waooo im sure gods cant take anymore your looovvv...


Edited by absols (01/06/14 11:19 AM)


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: absols]
    #19376849 - 01/06/14 11:16 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

To love someone else.. you need to love yourself first. You do not simply search and find happiness..you stop searching and find peace with your suffering.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: absols]
    #19376856 - 01/06/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

you're argument literally makes no logical sense, we are not ancient Greeks and we don't believe in forms, which I believe your argument is dependent on.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #19376867 - 01/06/14 11:20 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Are you saying that knowing that wholeness ultimately can only be found within does nothing to accomplish it?

If so, I only partially agree. Its certainly true that knowing it and having it are not at all the same thing, I've known it for many years and been quite miserable. ANd yet I still think that by knowing it, one becomes a little bit closer to realizing it because they stop expending as much energy searching for happiness in places they know it cant be found.

for me, looking into my  own heart has been an extremely painful process of confronting lots of repressed traumas. rather than making me happy, it has often made me much more miserable. And yet I still feel as though confronting these things and working through them is the only way I will ultimately find happiness, and not through suppressing them and going off trying to find the perfect wife or perfect job or something.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: absols]
    #19376876 - 01/06/14 11:22 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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absols said:
you talk about things as if everyone know already what it means .. so what new are you adding to ?? or why don't you separate your own means with everything if you mean really something particularly ??

what is that love thing ?? is it more then caring about something ? is it more then realizing something ? doing independently ? enjoying watching free ?? what is that love in your heart exactly ??

what I know, is that love goes with hate

like caring doesn't have an opposite because it is superior really
caring or not caring

while caring necessitate to point something objectively, so it is true

like also realizing, conscious recognitions of else, it goes with unconscious beings .. so not an opposite thing

doing independently, is positive freedom that goes with nothing freedom .. again nothing to worry about

also enjoying watching .. goes like with acting present relatively ... nothing to worry about either

so what is that love that goes with hate ??? do you know ?? I know ...

it is the hate of another in truth that is reversed to love yourself ... so really bad thing.. very dirty stuff .. evil are specialized of, like pretending being true .. by saying o but I love it it is me I cant but do that .. I cant hold myself.. absolutely freely

why would one hate another in truth necessarily ??

because one die when another exist .. there cant be but two, the edges of linear existence ways.. objective and subjective present existing right
in front and back
before and after ..
small and big
nothing and everything
so on

so there is no place of one and another in existence realms
this is why also we have gods that must represent absolute present values

this is how freedom is justified being existence truth

one must never see the other ..

so love my ass ...

who would love himself ??? hen ??? the one getting it, right ??? who would get himself ?? created being, right ??? how a created being could love anything ?? this is the mystery of all times

seen here all your love ... waooo im sure gods cant take anymore your looovvv...




If this was directed to me I am afraid I dont understand what youre getting at.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Deviate]
    #19376880 - 01/06/14 11:23 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

It seems quite distinctly like the path to true knowledge, is the path of unhappiness, and people who seem genuinely happy are often more delusional.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #19376894 - 01/06/14 11:25 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

It seems the earth is flat if you are stood upon it.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Icyus]
    #19376904 - 01/06/14 11:27 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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To love someone else.. you need to love yourself first. You do not simply search and find happiness..you stop searching and find peace with your suffering.




you are making everything up by will .. it is completely debile what you are saying ..

loving yourself is yourself freedom positively, so doing everything on your own and always justifying you being right 

what is that self that you want to love otherwise ??

while to be, is never about peace .. this is your evil masters preaching that for you to be worse then they are .. if it is possible for them to make you that end ..

what peace ?? truth is infinite superiority rights .. there are plenty of works constantly in being, absolute and relative ways of facts

being is true .. so reality of plus continuously .. while the plus is more true since it is the truth
so it must be constant superior absolute points to realize ..

what peace or what war ??? go to nothing if it still can exist

anyway, talking is that when it is given to anyone .. when evil rule all talks as physical matters ..that cant be free
when freedom are possessed for gods to stay free without assuming their existence fact, their conscious object weight still  effects that deform all and anything right


Edited by absols (01/06/14 11:31 AM)


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #19376956 - 01/06/14 11:38 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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you're argument literally makes no logical sense, we are not ancient Greeks and we don't believe in forms, which I believe your argument is dependent on.




it is the opposite of form .. it is to truth

when object exist truly, then infinite superiority of the object is right present .. then there cant be relative objectivity

then only subject can be .. which is itself free

so on.. it is not about forms ... it is about logics of truth known existence ways


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: absols]
    #19376981 - 01/06/14 11:44 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Right, if there really is some great divine truth at the core of everything, its worth it, otherwise, you are just causing yourself unnecessary suffering, have you ever considered that there really good be nothing outside of what we already have a decent grasp of in western society, because the older I get, the more I have trouble believing otherwise.


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: SeaShrooms]
    #19377104 - 01/06/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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Right, if there really is some great divine truth at the core of everything, its worth it, otherwise, you are just causing yourself unnecessary suffering, have you ever considered that there really good be nothing outside of what we already have a decent grasp of in western society, because the older I get, the more I have trouble believing otherwise.




me too .. I always lived and live my life only according to what I can do all .. so I never expect anything and actually I hate the truth since my situation is always dramatic since birth, while I never meant anything for myself and always do good 

the least I can say, is what there is no truth that cares about me,
this kind of hurts but ... I am a positive person .. so I like to be free

but truth as I say it, is a personal hobby that is never mixed with my perspectives on everything or my ways of being in realities of life

it is also a hobby because I am true relatively, since I am like any other human being mostly in the same condition of being someone ..

i am true, means what for sure I cant harm .. nor enjoy ruining else and hurting even what i hate really
what i hate is a reason for me to be more free away

positive truth exist for sure, otherwise there cant be objective things nor subjective freedom constant sense of being consciously

but is it divine ?? NO
since people right like me are so abused literally .. if truth was perfect value this wouldn't exist to right people


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Deviate]
    #19384445 - 01/07/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

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Deviate said:
Yes it is. I have noticed this from listening to love songs. Basically the theme of love songs is "you make me feel whole and your absence/rejection makes me feel empty".

Now this is exactly the same as the spiritual search, only in the spiritual search the lover and the beloved are God and the soul rather than two people. So when I hear love songs, all I hear is the search for God only people are searching for Him in each other rather than in their own hearts.

I believe this is also why there are so many divorces in our country. People are looking for wholeness and happiness and they think that they will find that in another person. When they fall in love, all the chemicals make them feel temporarily whole and so they get married and expect to live happily ever after. But of course the human heart was ultimately made for communion with God and not just another person, so couples who fail to understand this and expect their partners to make them happy inevitably end up disappointed and so they get divorced thinking the problem was the other person and when they find mr/mrs. right then they will finally have lasting happiness. It's really incredibly immature to expect someone else to make you happy and it's rather telling that so many adults in our society actually think thats how happiness works.





I read all of the discussion, but this response, really stands out with it's wisdom...


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Re: Searching for love? [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #19385848 - 01/07/14 11:31 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

here is the story of how I met that "somone"

It was during my college days, I was heavy into ananda mayi ma, doing mantra while staring at her picture, praying to her. I was single at the point and she helped me end my desires for a mate, instead of from desire, from bliss and playfulness, I imagined my dream girl, and prayed to Ananda to manifest her, with a list of specific qualities for this dream girl... She had to be around my age, a hippie type, into the same kind of music, open to tantra, have experience higher consciousness, had used psychedelics at some point, got the cosmic joke, could laugh with me about simple things, loved to dance and sing, and would go my unique spiritual path with me as a trusting open partner... the list went on and on, I prayed for the SAME list for 6 months to MA... at the end of this praying, I ran into a woman who was to become my mate, It was a instant connection, I knew it was her right away, was totally love at first sight and remembered we had spent past lifetimes together, later I discovered that she had all the qualities I had prayed for... At firsit I thought this woman guru had granted my prayer, but later I realized she was revealing to me a woman who already existed through using my imagination and prayers... It is amazing how connecting to a realized being can open up miracles like this. This all occured more then 7 years ago, I am still with this woman that Ananda mayi ma connected me to and our relationship is better then ever... THANKS MA! JAI MA! Thanks Oneness, thanks Guru... WOW, meditating with her, absorbing her gaze, learning from her blissful presence, is so powerful. Thanks for sharing her photo, it brough back such good miracle memory that brings me to the here now, where I can just be with Ma... and learn from specfic miracles, that life in each moment is a miracle.

The main karmic baggage she came with is alcholism, it was bad but we got sober off alcohol two years ago, she was able to do with with me quitting too and the help of a spiritual support program... AA.


Our relationship has never been better, but when it comes down to it, it is about coming home to my heart...


I have found my love, my home, people will come and go, but that love is forever


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