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FunnyLight
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Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum
#19373610 - 01/05/14 03:59 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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So my lovely girlfriend spotted this mushroom while were wandering around our frozen pond. I found it pretty spectacular that it was in such great shape.
I'm in the Midwest region and we have some warm days not to long ago, but I certainly didn't expect it to be warm enough for this guy to grow to this size ~5-6" across.
I have ID it as Ganoderma Lucidum with a book I have on hand. Here are some pics below.
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Split where it was bound to the mother wood.

Pores
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19373651 - 01/05/14 04:09 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Looks a tad old, judging from the pore side. Others can chime in on whether or not it might be too old.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19373662 - 01/05/14 04:11 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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With Ganoderma, you can usually sort out the species by the host tree. Do you know type of tree this was found on?
I agree with fry day, it does look a bit past it's prime.
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FunnyLight
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I'll get out there tomorrow and snag some pics of the tree.
Now my book said it was inedible, but it was used for chinese medicine... soo????
:Edit: why don't we just go ahead and ignore that ^ sentence right there....
:Edit:Edit: Also mind you, it was partially frozen the top for the most part was above the freeze line. The underside not so lucky. Either way, more pics tomorrow.
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Edited by FunnyLight (01/05/14 11:22 PM)
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19375555 - 01/06/14 01:45 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Ganoderma aff. lucidium auct. "wherever you live"
but yes medicinal reishi
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: Joust]
#19377443 - 01/06/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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If you find nice ones, you can tincture them. Slice or dice and cover with alcohol, soak for awhile, remove, boil with a bit of water, combine the two. Always maintain at least 25% alcohol in the tincture to preserve it and keep it in the dark at all stages to avoid any uv degradation. Brown or cobalt bottles are good. Use an eyedropper or two a day... Not an exacting science at this level. ;-)
Someone has a nice double extraction recipe good for the conks, fortunatley I bookmarked it:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18845747
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19377528 - 01/06/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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It can't be Ganoderma lucidum because that species only grows in Europe. Ganoderma lucidum also does not occur in China. But it might be the species that is in your field guide under the name Ganoderma lucidum.
What kind of wood was it on?
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: Joust]
#19379425 - 01/06/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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I missed the Midwest part. Ganoderma aff. lucidium still fits though...
aff. = Affinity = Biology- A relationship or resemblance in structure between species that suggests a common origin.
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: Joust]
#19380630 - 01/07/14 01:53 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Alright here's what I got.
I believe the tree is a willow, specifically a black willow. I say this due to how close it was growing to the pond and the bark type/texture. I was out of town today and did not get a chance to go back down to the pond to check things out. This tree ID is from comparison with conditions and these pictures.
  
You can see where the little critter was tucked away hiding, and you can sort of see a nice shot of the tree bark. You can also see how frozen over and gunky it was. It was not a fresh find!
Whatcha'll think?
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19380716 - 01/07/14 02:33 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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It's Ganoderma lucidum sensu auct. amer. With microscopy and some research it might be possible to find a better validly published name for it.
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FunnyLight
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Interesting, Thanks for the reply ARock.
I've got plenty of petri's waiting to be poured. I'll go ahead and try a clone of it.
A quick search seems to show that this genus isn't dangerous. Although I wouldn't plan on consuming it unless I had absolute proper ID of course. More or less I'll try to grow it out for the novelty of it.
:EDIT: Thinking about further ID of it. I do not have a powerful microscope available. If I did I'd be looking for spore characteristics correct? Size, Shape, color.
Also, what else might help to narrow the ID down? As in "further research"?
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19382439 - 01/07/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I have what I thought was G. lucidum, the only difference is in any of the specimens I found none have the shiny surface. It is more of a leathery surface, both in the ones from the wild and the ones I cultivated. Am I correct in assuming that it is indeed another closely related species that fits into the G. lucidum complex?
That's actually very fascinating.
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: Mrcloudy]
#19384242 - 01/07/14 06:30 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Went out today to grab some more picks of the tree and found another mushy hiding in the muck. This one looks a bit younger, it's a bit smaller and lighter in color once all cleaned up.
I do believe the tree is a black willow. I'm not sure what happened to crunch the tree base up so bad. It looks like a giant poked it right in the middle of the cluster, breaking the branches away. Weird.
Here's the pics from today's find.
   
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: FunnyLight]
#19384325 - 01/07/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Nice finds.
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Re: Verify: Ganoderma Lucidum [Re: Mrcloudy]
#19384639 - 01/07/14 07:39 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Mrcloudy said: I have what I thought was G. lucidum, the only difference is in any of the specimens I found none have the shiny surface. It is more of a leathery surface, both in the ones from the wild and the ones I cultivated. Am I correct in assuming that it is indeed another closely related species that fits into the G. lucidum complex?
Sounds like maybe you have the Ganoderma applanatum group.
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Mrcloudy
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It has a deep red coloration though. It is softer and more flexible than the hard woody Applanatums I have found.
Upon looking at my photos though the camera flash seems to bring out a bit of shine, but its imperceptible in normal lighting. Unless of course it is wet, but it caused me to second guess my identification since it certainly didn't seem to be deserving of the common name "varnished conk".
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