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Camtaro420
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A Proper PF Tek Cake.
#19373134 - 01/05/14 01:53 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Hello Shroomery.
This thread started out as a serious of questions in regards to the growth of my BRF cakes done in classic PF Tek style. Now It includes a lot of information a novice PC cultivator would be asking about their firs time PF Tek jars.
So I'll update the OP with all the pictures I have taken so far. Enjoy. Remember to search through the thread if you want more info about the pics posted. Otherwise have fun. The timeline for this grow is Inoculation on 12/22, with the pictures of most recent growth ending in 1/29. The "Strain" was AA+ (From my understanding a skower grower on average). It will be ready for the fruiting chamber 7 days from today which will be 2/5.
From beginning to end.
I used a combination of EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes " http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324 " and RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms Video (they are nearly identical guides) with two exceptions.
1: I used a Pressure Sterilizer instead of a simple cook pot.

& 2: I added Surgical Micropore Tape to the holes to help keep ant's or other insects out of the GE/Inoc holes.

The syringe from a trusted vendor. AA+ (No worries, Growing mushrooms fir personal use is legal in my state.)

With all this magic and a SAB. I had all the parts necessary for a successful grow.

Here were the results of my best cake, which is twice as colonized as the rest of what I have. First sign of growth, about a week in.

A little later.

A little more later.

A day's difference from the previous photo.

A little farther every other day.

Starting to touch the bottom. (Some weird boogery looking parts of BRF but all in all everything is ok.)

A fully colonized side. (Started to stall with the micropore on and the compacting of the BRF from so much touching. Had to remove the tape and loosen the lid shortly after this shot, fortunately it's winter and the ant's are not around.)

Four shots of the growth at about a month in.




Almost done a few days later. Primordia forming.





Growth today on the 29th.






With some little pins included.

See you in a week when it hits the FC. Thanks for all the help from everyone so far. Especially cronicr. 
Edited by Camtaro420 (01/29/14 12:09 PM)
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19373159 - 01/05/14 01:58 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Looks fine bud
Try not to move them around so much,you might get the dry verm later deeper into the cake and drag along a contam in the process. Just happened to 4 of my jars.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: blojo02184]
#19373161 - 01/05/14 01:59 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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try a finer verm next time but
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: cronicr]
#19373172 - 01/05/14 02:02 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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blojo02184 said: Looks fine bud
Try not to move them around so much,you might get the dry verm later deeper into the cake and drag along a contam in the process. Just happened to 4 of my jars.
Thnks for the advice. I have been moving them around alot for the pictures, fortunately I have some surgical micropore tape over the holes on the lid to help keep the contam down and the ants out too.
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try a finer verm next time but
Word! I am so glad to hear it's looking good. That was the only verm I could find locally. Next time I'll get it online!
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19373177 - 01/05/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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or just chuck it in the blender for a second
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: cronicr]
#19373202 - 01/05/14 02:11 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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I don't have one but seriously? Won't it turn to powder o.O ? I thought the Verm I had gotten was hella small as it is!
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19373219 - 01/05/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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it will powder if you let it lol, that looks like a mecium grade which is fine to use i just think the fine grade looks better lol
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: cronicr]
#19373349 - 01/05/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Word man, thanks =D
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: blojo02184]
#19373491 - 01/05/14 03:29 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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blojo02184 said: Looks fine bud
Try not to move them around so much,you might get the dry verm later deeper into the cake and drag along a contam in the process. Just happened to 4 of my jars.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: twistedty]
#19378332 - 01/06/14 05:47 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Had to take a snap of Jar A to show the change in growth.
Yesterday.

Today.

I'm thinking it looks a lil' more rhizo today? =D
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19378573 - 01/06/14 06:26 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Looking sweet, keep up posting the progress .
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: vallejocvl]
#19378605 - 01/06/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: vallejocvl]
#19378626 - 01/06/14 06:35 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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vallejocvl said: Looking sweet, keep up posting the progress .
You know it. I lye awake at night just thinking about it. As soon as I get some pins it's straight to agar then isolation, grains, monos, outdoor stuff. Fucking ay man. I just can't freaking wait!
Edited by Camtaro420 (01/06/14 06:36 PM)
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19378641 - 01/06/14 06:38 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said:
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vallejocvl said: Looking sweet, keep up posting the progress .
You know it. I lye awake at night just thinking about it. As soon as I get some pins it's straight to agar then isolation, grains, monos, outdoor stuff. Fucking ay man. I just can't freaking wait!

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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: cronicr]
#19383264 - 01/07/14 03:49 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Another day and more growth to show =D
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19384356 - 01/07/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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That is looking really sweet. I'm waiting on my second growth to show signs of life <3.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: vallejocvl]
#19384374 - 01/07/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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lol your gonna have enough shots for a time lapse
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Good or Bad?) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19384376 - 01/07/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said:

Another day and more growth to show =D

let em be for a week theyre fine
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19384396 - 01/07/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Looking good, man! Giddy up!
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Matty_Rulez]
#19384417 - 01/07/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: cronicr]
#19384433 - 01/07/14 07:03 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: twistedty]
#19415235 - 01/13/14 11:53 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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I can't help but look at them once a day when I wake up every morning. It's the highlight of my day. I know I shouldn't touch, but I just can't resist.
Here's the growth after 6 days.

Jar A is at about 88% with it just today showing signs of reaching the bottom of the jar in a couple spots.
The rest are slow but steady and not worth taking a picture of.
I just want to crack open the others and cut up the myc and fruit this one to eat xD
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19415249 - 01/13/14 11:59 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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almost there!
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: cronicr]
#19415265 - 01/14/14 12:02 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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leave em alone!
but seriously they look great i think you should have success this go around.
when you gonna do agar and grains newb
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: twistedty]
#19415281 - 01/14/14 12:08 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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twistedty said: leave em alone!
but seriously they look great i think you should have success this go around.
when you gonna do agar and grains newb
As soon as I get my 2nd pin it's going straight to agar.
Gonna eat the first one
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: twistedty]
#19415284 - 01/14/14 12:09 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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twistedty said: leave em alone!
but seriously they look great i think you should have success this go around.
when you gonna do agar and grains newb
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19415291 - 01/14/14 12:12 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said:
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twistedty said: leave em alone!
but seriously they look great i think you should have success this go around.
when you gonna do agar and grains newb
As soon as I get my 2nd pin it's going straight to agar.
Gonna eat the first one

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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: twistedty]
#19415383 - 01/14/14 12:50 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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LMAO Well done.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: vallejocvl]
#19415518 - 01/14/14 02:03 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Best piece of advise I ever got. Any time you think about touching them, go start something else, anything, repeat as necessary.
Only down side to this is now I have a closet and counter full of half assed half finished experiments. Agar full of contams because I wanted to see what lived in my fridge, bathroom etc.
My girl was not to happy when she saw a container that almost made her throw up.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: magickspore]
#19415539 - 01/14/14 02:14 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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magickspore said: Best piece of advise I ever got. Any time you think about touching them, go start something else, anything, repeat as necessary.
Only down side to this is now I have a closet and counter full of half assed half finished experiments. Agar full of contams because I wanted to see what lived in my fridge, bathroom etc.
My girl was not to happy when she saw a container that almost made her throw up.
hahaha. That's actually quite funny you mention that.
We're running some agar experiments ourselves with things around the house and such. Got a really nice thread that will be coming up about some of the contams I have run into starting this hobby.
Every mornign me and my girl check out the new growth of both the jars AND the contam petris lol. I'll try my hardest to leave them alone for the next week.
Gawd it will be so hard.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19415553 - 01/14/14 02:23 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Nice. Hell yea some of the shit you see when messing around just can't be put into words.
I'll be keeping an eye out for that.
It was hilarious I used a cool whip container and left it on the counter after exposing it. I saw her reach for it and I tried to stop her but I just wasn't fast enough. The look of disgust was priceless then the smell hit her and I started to feel bad.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: magickspore]
#19415564 - 01/14/14 02:27 AM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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magickspore said: Nice. Hell yea some of the shit you see when messing around just can't be put into words.
I'll be keeping an eye out for that.
It was hilarious I used a cool whip container and left it on the counter after exposing it. I saw her reach for it and I tried to stop her but I just wasn't fast enough. The look of disgust was priceless then the smell hit her and I started to feel bad.
I could totally see that happening. Lol that's why my wife only lets me use see through containers xD
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19434207 - 01/17/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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Updated.
Worried about this spot at the bottom of the jar I noticed today.
Looks a little bit bacterial. What do you guys think. I'M SCARED 
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19434252 - 01/17/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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what spot? stop worrying dude, make more jars
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: spacechildo]
#19434324 - 01/17/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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spacechildo said: what spot? stop worrying dude, make more jars 
Middle of the pic, bottom of the jar. Glad it all looks normal to you though. =D
Looks a lil' goopy and not like anything else. Could just be freaking out though...
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19438271 - 01/18/14 02:58 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: Hey Hey everyone.
So as many of you know I have had hell the past month dealing with syringes. My last attempt was with a few jars of BRF done in classic PF tek style (only I used a PC instead of a steampot).
The fastest growing jar is starting to smell funky. Little bit like moldy I guess? It's not gag worthy but it definitely doesn't smell like the verm(that dirt like smell) used too and it doesn't smell like mushrooms either.
I Inoced on 12/22. Here is the pictures of the growth.
Updated 1/17 Jar A

Updated 1/18 Top view

Side 1 (where the hole that sells the most pungent of the 4 is)

Side 2 (Still waiting, a little closer every day =D)

Side 3

Side 4

Any words of advice? Is it normal for the verm barrier to smell a little weird towards the end? IS it just the GE? I'm a noob. No idea what's up.
Updated the OP. My Jar is starting to smell a little weird..... Any advice?
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19440231 - 01/18/14 11:02 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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take the tape off and let them breathe a litte, sounds like bacteria if it smells like sour apples
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: cronicr]
#19440281 - 01/18/14 11:18 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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D= Ah that sounds scary.... Ok.... Should I take the micropore off the others as well?
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19440296 - 01/18/14 11:22 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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if they smell like that then yes
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: cronicr]
#19440600 - 01/19/14 12:39 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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cronicr said: if they smell like that then yes
Ah, no they still smell like good ol' dirt as they did at inoculation.
Taking tape off of stinky now.
Edit: Meh sterilized a tool and gently poked through the holes since taking the tape would have shaken stuff up too much.
Edited by Camtaro420 (01/19/14 12:44 AM)
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19440610 - 01/19/14 12:43 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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just keep an eye on it for funny rhizzo's
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: cronicr]
#19440643 - 01/19/14 12:51 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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Funny rhizos? Like cobweb?
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19440651 - 01/19/14 12:53 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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no just like single strands of rhizzo'z that shoot out like an inch and will reach right past other mycelium,but yes cobweb would be a good one to spot too lol
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: cronicr]
#19440657 - 01/19/14 12:55 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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cronicr said: no just like single strands of rhizzo'z that shoot out like an inch and will reach right past other mycelium,but yes cobweb would be a good one to spot too lol
The only weird thing i'm worried about is this spot really

I spotted it yesterday, this was this mornings picture.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19440673 - 01/19/14 01:00 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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thats a weird pic lol
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (Smells...) [Re: cronicr]
#19440678 - 01/19/14 01:02 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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the spot looks weird, or the way I centered the focus.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19440683 - 01/19/14 01:03 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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Here it is unaltered.''
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19442802 - 01/19/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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Update 1/19 So cronicr told me to give it some more breathing room so I opened up the holes, still the tinyest tinge of of a smell right up at the holes but not as bad as last night.

Colonization is still going good it's about 95% now, most of the bottom is colonized, just that one spot in the pic and under it still waiting for. The others are severely behind.
Which brings me to my next question
Jar B
 Jar C

These are two different jars with really slow growth, Only side for both of them.
Jar B looks extremely strong, but it was the one that got like only .25 CC of spore solution. Also it is starting to show a little yellow in the white on the bottom left side if you look in the pic. Piss maybe? Contam? It grows more every day.
And jar C is just slow as fuck.
I am running up on the 4 week mark here in 3 days. By then Jar A will done, Jar D(unshown) will be at about 90-95% if it keeps going, while Jar B and C here will most definately be below 50%.
Should I let them keep going? Toss em outside? Or cut them up and onto agar? Can you even do that?
Edited by Camtaro420 (01/19/14 02:19 PM)
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19444074 - 01/19/14 07:25 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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it's a toss up, hard to tell whats going on there but the growth does look off, just give it time and see what happens
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: cronicr]
#19444122 - 01/19/14 07:35 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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Even though it's been almost 4 weeks? It would take at least another week maybe two before it was done, surely it would become contaminated before long?
If I did want to take one of the 4 cakes and cut it up to agar. Would it work?
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19444138 - 01/19/14 07:39 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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if your in an area where burying is an option i'd suggest it
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: cronicr]
#19444189 - 01/19/14 07:49 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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Well It's new mexico so temperatures can get up to the 100's in the summer days and freezing in the winter. Right now it's like 30-50 any given night. I have one hell of a yard filled with all kinds of compost though.
I see we keep moving away from the agar question though. Not going to work I guess?
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19444202 - 01/19/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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 forgot about that one all together! of course it's worth a shot on agar
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: cronicr]
#19444243 - 01/19/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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 forgot about that one all together! of course it's worth a shot on agar
Ah ha! Now that's what I want to fucking hear! Definately want to try that before disposing of them outside.
Back to the outside question.
How cold can outdoor cubes get safely?
How hot can outdoor cubes get safely?
How do I take care of them?
Any links you could share to help? I haven't really researched this at all.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19444263 - 01/19/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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It wouldn't be highly suggested because you'd be cloning your slowest jar... Unless your doing your fastest. My interpretation might be wrong, trying to piece it together on my phone lol
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: blojo02184]
#19444309 - 01/19/14 08:10 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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you just gotta use your best judgement once you got growth on agar if it's painstakingly slow still just disregard it
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: blojo02184]
#19444317 - 01/19/14 08:11 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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blojo02184 said: It wouldn't be highly suggested because you'd be cloning your slowest jar... Unless your doing your fastest. My interpretation might be wrong, trying to piece it together on my phone lol
Well it's not exactly that it's slow. It's that only 1 of 4 points has growth, prolly from lack of spore solution.
The growth actually looks great, minus the little yellow fade on the bottom left of Jar B. but since its only 1/4 sides colonizing the past 4 weeks in, I don't see how it could continue getting the remaining 75% of the jar in time before contaminating.
All jars showed growth at the same time. But A & D had far more solution the B & C, because I am a noob who couldn't handle the jar correctly.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19444591 - 01/19/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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We all get trigger happy on our first set of jars
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (So far so good.) [Re: blojo02184]
#19444716 - 01/19/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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blojo02184 said: We all get trigger happy on our first set of jars 
Lol exactly. So now I got this jar with great growth, But I don't even think an isolate wedge could colonize a 4 week old cake before some contaminate messes it up some before 100%.
So I think I'm gonna take C & D out tomorrow and work some agar tek in. Then bury what's left in a nice spot.
A is smelling less today and is like 95%
D is like 85% just a little slower I think. Dosen't smell.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (almost complete) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19467765 - 01/24/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: Hey Hey everyone.
Update 1/24





So.... Almost done.
Starting to see some weird things against the jar though. Couple of spots in the dry verm layer look like cobweb. Smells the tiniest bit sour at the top. Much better sense I opened the holes up. There is also some weird dots on teh glass like in this picture

and then some spots look kinda yellowy gooey like this next one

Just wondering how long it should be before the spot should be fully colonized? It seems like it may be taking too long, but I may just be getting impatient, and freaking out at all the weird changes going on.
OP updated. Looking for advice and a pro's eye for identification of weird spots..
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (almost complete) [Re: Camtaro420]
#19467905 - 01/24/14 02:13 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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hi! hold on a minute i'll get back to ya
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (almost complete) [Re: cronicr]
#19467919 - 01/24/14 02:17 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (almost complete) [Re: cronicr]
#19467921 - 01/24/14 02:18 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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it may help to give it a little bit of extra ge, you can loosen your lid a bit or take it to your sab and remopve it for a bit too,don't worry you have a dry verm barrier
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7092472#7092472
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (almost complete) [Re: cronicr]
#19467965 - 01/24/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 6 days ago) |
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cronicr said: it may help to give it a little bit of extra ge, you can loosen your lid a bit or take it to your sab and remopve it for a bit too,don't worry you have a dry verm barrier
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7092472#7092472
Well.. Took me about ten minutes to get that fucker to unscrew but there's definitely more GE now.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19472383 - 01/25/14 02:21 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: Hey Hey everyone.
Update 1/25
Does this look normal to you?

These white dots are starting to show up around up against the glass? Is this normal?
Updated. Thanks for the help cronicr! it's doubled in growth in that spot from last night.
Now if anyone can tell me if these weird white dots are safe I can breath easier.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19472394 - 01/25/14 02:24 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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if it ain't growing i wouldn't fret about it
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: cronicr]
#19472396 - 01/25/14 02:26 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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if it ain't growing i wouldn't fret about it
Individual spots no, but more are showing up. There's twice as much as there was yesterday in that pic let me take a new one.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19472418 - 01/25/14 02:32 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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if it ain't growing i wouldn't fret about it
Individual spots no, but more are showing up. There's twice as much as there was yesterday in that pic let me take a new one.
Ok here it is.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19474164 - 01/25/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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are you sure those are not knots?
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: cronicr]
#19474203 - 01/25/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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That is exactly what I'm thinking they are. Invitro pinning. Especially if doubling in size/number every day.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19474327 - 01/25/14 10:30 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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What is the deal?
That looks fine. Quit freaking out, let it be.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19474756 - 01/26/14 12:13 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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cronicr said: are you sure those are not knots?
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That is exactly what I'm thinking they are. Invitro pinning. Especially if doubling in size/number every day.
Size no, number yes.
They are against the glass, not the cake. I thought they might be knots but ya. it's not against the myc if that's normal?.
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FrankHorrigan said: What is the deal?
That looks fine. Quit freaking out, let it be.

Glad you think so Frank! Your my hero.
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Re: BRF Cake Growth, In Jar. (almost complete) [Re: Camtaro420] 1
#19475193 - 01/26/14 04:18 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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i believe those are hyphal knots
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19476507 - 01/26/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: Hey Hey everyone.
EDIT: You can follow the groeth of my BRF jar through this thread! The OP and latest post have the most current info.
Update 1/26
My cake is almost done.
And from what I can tell it's starting to invitro pin.
It's AA+ that was nocced up on 12/22

Updated!! The dots ARE getting bigger and after countless hours of searching the closest thing it resembles is, as you guys called it, knots, or cube primordia if you will.
I am starting to get all kinds of giddy.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19478187 - 01/26/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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Usually they will press up against the glass, but they will be coming from the cake itself from my observations. If it ain't black or green I wouldn't worry just yet.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19478944 - 01/26/14 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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DannyDGAF said: Usually they will press up against the glass, but they will be coming from the cake itself from my observations. If it ain't black or green I wouldn't worry just yet.
Alot of dots are showing up on the myc. But those ones are definitely up against the glass and continuing to grow.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19479472 - 01/26/14 11:14 PM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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quit handling them!
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: twistedty]
#19479800 - 01/27/14 01:10 AM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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twistedty said: quit handling them!
It's sits on the same shelf, I don't really handle them. Just maybe a gentle turn to the left or right each morning.
I know I shouldn;t touch but some spots are just freaking me out.
Question, Should the 7 day waiting period start the minute you notice 100% colonization?
Or should I have taken that couple days of stall at that spot into consideration because seriously it seems like this cake has been at 96-99% for at least a week now, with that spot only now colonizing with the lid loosening.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19479894 - 01/27/14 02:26 AM (10 years, 4 days ago) |
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yes one week at full colonization so the last spots get a chance to digest properly too
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: cronicr]
#19483800 - 01/27/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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Exactly
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19484352 - 01/28/14 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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So excited. One week till it hits the FC.
Suprisingly the other cakes are starting to take off in growth too. I was going to cut them up to agar, but I think i'll just wait.
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Re: PF Tek Cake. Weird white dots. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19484362 - 01/28/14 12:25 AM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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good plan! savee your agar for cloning!
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19491105 - 01/29/14 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 days ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: Hello Shroomery.
This thread started out as a serious of questions in regards to the growth of my BRF cakes done in classic PF Tek style. Now It includes a lot of information a novice PC cultivator would be asking about their firs time PF Tek jars.
So I'll update the OP with all the pictures I have taken so far. Enjoy. Remember to search through the thread if you want more info about the pics posted. Otherwise have fun. The timeline for this grow is Inoculation on 12/22, with the pictures of most recent growth ending in 1/29. The "Strain" was AA+ (From my understanding a skower grower on average). It will be ready for the fruiting chamber 7 days from today which will be 2/5.
From beginning to end.
I used a combination of EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes "http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324" and RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms Video (they are nearly identical guides) with two exceptions.
1: I used a Pressure Sterilizer instead of a simple cook pot.

& 2: I added Surgical Micropore Tape to the holes to help keep ant's or other insects out of the GE/Inoc holes.

The syringe from a trusted vendor. AA+ (No worries, Growing mushrooms fir personal use is legal in my state.)

With all this magic and a SAB. I had all the parts necessary for a successful grow.

Here were the results of my best cake, which is twice as colonized as the rest of what I have. First sign of growth, about a week in.

A little later.

A little more later.

A day's difference from the previous photo.

A little farther every other day.

Starting to touch the bottom. (Some weird boogery looking parts of BRF but all in all everything is ok.)

A fully colonized side. (Started to stall with the micropore on and the compacting of the BRF from so much touching. Had to remove the tape and loosen the lid shortly after this shot, fortunately it's winter and the ant's are not around.)

Four shots of the growth at about a month in.




Almost done a few days later. Primordia forming.





Growth today on the 29th.






With some little pins included.

See you in a week when it hits the FC. Thanks for all the help from everyone so far. Especially cronicr. 
And that's pretty much the end of this thread. I'll be updating my personal grow thread with the highlights and such once it's ready to go in the fruiting chamber. Hope this helps some newbs looking for BRF cake pics.
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19491260 - 01/29/14 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 days ago) |
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19493220 - 01/29/14 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 day ago) |
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It still smells a lil' weird, i'm guessing from GE and some bacterial/cobweb like contaminates in the dry verm. But it's nothing gaggable, just not mushroom smell.
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19519919 - 02/04/14 11:02 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well today is the day I finally take this little bastard out to drown him in a well. =D
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19520023 - 02/04/14 11:35 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: Well today is the day I finally take this little bastard out to drown him in a well. =D
I like your spirit!
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Camtaro420 said: Well today is the day I finally take this little bastard out to drown him in a well. =D
I like your spirit! 
OMG it was perfect and light and smelled like mo'fuckin' mushrooms. Freaking out. can't wait for tomorrow. It's sitting in a lovely little container of water being weighed down now.
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19521074 - 02/04/14 03:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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FUCKING EXCITED!
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YOmamaPr0
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Registered: 12/19/13
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Re: A Proper PF Tek Cake. [Re: YOmamaPr0]
#19540019 - 02/08/14 02:40 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Update?
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