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SpinScratch
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Help with my Salvia Cutting please
#19372648 - 01/05/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Ok.. I ordered salvia cutting from a reliable source and received a nice strong cutting shown in the first pic... I put it in a room with a lot of indirect light in a humidity tent. 65 degrees F. I mist it and water as needed. It rarely needs water and the soil stays slightly moist. Its been two and a half weeks and its it has been going downhill since I received it. Someone please help. This will be the second cutting in a row that I lost, and its all I have.

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Re: Help with my Salvia Cutting please [Re: SpinScratch]
#19380960 - 01/07/14 05:07 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Hi,
I managed to grow my 2-leafed cutting (shorter than 1 inch)

to this:

1. Plant your cutting in to a transparent flowerpot, this way it's more easy to monitor the humidity of the soil. When humidity level is right, then you can see little drops of moisture inside the container walls.
2. More important - use humidity dome! I used a cylindrically shaped glass jar. Moisten inside walls of this dome with a mister, once or twice a day. Don't mist the plant directly.
3. Use plenty of light! You can not compete with the sun, so don't hold back on light. Cuttings need more light than mature plants. But, don't burn your plant! Use the thermometer inside the humidity dome.
I used two 23W fluorescent tubes, which don't get too hot, yet provide enough light for the little cutting to grow. Place the lights so that the temperature inside the humidity domes upper part will be 1-2 degrees higher than at the soil level.
Its important to keep the top layer of the soil moist, because the rising air will lift moisture from the soil up to the air, and this encourages plant growth.
4. Rise the temperature. 75 - 77 F is ok, when you have sufficient humidity inside the dome.
Wish you luck!
Edited by substrate33 (01/07/14 05:29 AM)
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SpinScratch
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Re: Help with my Salvia Cutting please [Re: substrate33]
#19381208 - 01/07/14 07:39 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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wow good idea thanks. How long did it take that cutting to grow that big? You didnt root the cutting in water first? What did you use for soil? rooting hormone? This would be my first go at cloning. Thanks so much
Edited by SpinScratch (01/07/14 07:43 AM)
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Re: Help with my Salvia Cutting please [Re: SpinScratch]
#19381538 - 01/07/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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The first pic was taken on December 18. The second photo was taken today. So it's roughly 3 weeks interval.
I got the cutting from a friend, who brought it to me with roots already developed. He did root the cutting in the water. The roots were not strong, only two ~1-inch filamentous roots. There were 3 leaves, from which one dried out from frostbite that occurred during transportation. I had to take good care for the plant to not die. It was my second cutting also The first cutting I got was not yet rooted and already half dead when I got it, so the reanimation did not succeed with that one..
The soil is nothing special, just what I found at home at the moment. It's suitable for home gardening. ph ~6-6,5 N 750 mg/kg ( 120mg/l ) P 550 mg/kg ( 60mg/l ) K 3700 mg/kg ( 600mg/l ) Conductivity 40 mS/m Humidity 60% Volume weight 400g/l
No rooting hormone was ever used. Use boiled (and cooled of course ) water for misting and watering. The rule of thumb is that u can not use any chemicals at all in critical situations. Only plain sterile water.
I think your plant will survive, just give it really high humidity environment and not too wet but sufficiently moist soil, and it'll be fine 
Keep us updated.
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Re: Help with my Salvia Cutting please [Re: substrate33]
#19403161 - 01/11/14 10:42 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Update... I took as many possible clones from the plant. Some were doomed from the start. But they are all going downhill. Oh well.. maybe ill order another cutting in the summer when we have better temperature, humidity and light. Thanks for the help anyways
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Re: Help with my Salvia Cutting please [Re: SpinScratch]
#19411230 - 01/13/14 04:41 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Taking clones from dying plant is not what you do. The plant needs all the health and energy to get better. You don't need to divide this energy by cutting the plant to pieces. Taking clones in this situation could be understood if you had any pathogens present (like mold) and by taking a clone you could save a healthy part of the plant. Otherwise its too risky. The clone must always be at best possible health. If its taken from a half dried plant then you increase the risk of drying, by taking the cutting away from the already established circular system, which feeds this part of a plant. The cutting then needs more extra energy to grow roots and so on.. When the plant is drying - use lots of light with plenty of moisture and a few degrees more heat than the plant usually needs. Higher temperature increases the moisture intake, and therefore helps to rehydrate the plant tissue.
English is not my mother language so I hope you understand what i'm saying..
Anyways.. it's not the last salvia cutting on earth, so if you get a new one, try to keep it healthy
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Re: Help with my Salvia Cutting please [Re: SpinScratch]
#19411277 - 01/13/14 05:19 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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this plant was too small and too weak for the safe propagation of even one good cutting (except you got some enhanced in vitro growing skills).
Next time: - Use a humidity dome as described above - don´t panic when they lose their leaves, that happens all the time when they´ve got a problem - they never get enough sunlight in winter, and they need some shade in summer - warm temperatures might be good - maybe think about another soil. was it moldy? did you steam it before using? peat based potting soil keeps too much moisture for too long, which provokes mold. mix it with grit or lava or birdsand or vermiculite or whatever is at hand. the substrate shold be airy and well-drained. let the soil dry out once in a while. - be careful with fungicides and stuff. they are very sensitive to all kinds of chemicals. - if a plant gets really sick, and loses its leaves, don´t cut it apart, no need for such violence! repot it horizontally in a flower box, and cover the stem only slightly with soil. the healthy segments will grow roots again, the rest sometimes dies off. repot again and remove dead parts after some time.
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