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OfflineImFukNCLUELESS
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thinking bout iv'ing dmt
    #19372619 - 01/05/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Can anyone help me out with a link of how to turn freebase into salt so thats water soluble


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19372748 - 01/05/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

lazy bitch:psychsplit:

man just take a few drops of vinegar and theres ur water soluble SHIT !:psychsplit:


Edited by rikuni (01/05/14 12:41 PM)


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: rikuni]
    #19372768 - 01/05/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

rikuni said:
lazy bitch:psychsplit:

man just take a few drops of vinegar and theres ur water soluble SHIT !:psychsplit:



This made me laugh way too hard for some reason


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19372775 - 01/05/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

You need to use applecider vinegar.. winevinegar or balsamico ruins the taste.


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: Icyus]
    #19372826 - 01/05/14 12:56 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Search for "Pure DMT Fumarate from freebase DMT" on DMT Nexus.

The SWIMFOAFs on that site won't help with sourcing fumaric acid, though, as shooting home-cooked drugs is a potentially lethal pastime.

I'd advise vaping it. Works fine for everyone else, IME.

EDIT: If you want to shoot it, please read this post at hipforums.com


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: lemmingp] * 1
    #19373179 - 01/05/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

don't do it


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: Deathcore]
    #19373780 - 01/05/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Get your dmt on drip, man.. so you can regulate it continously..


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: Icyus] * 1
    #19373819 - 01/05/14 04:51 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Water solubility is only one part of preparing a preparation of DMT that is safe to administer intravenously.  You need to establish purity and produce or obtain a sterile IV-safe medium to dilute the DMT as well; you'll also need to obtain appropriate needles, etc.  You can hurt yourself badly using improper equipment or poor injection technique.

If you're asking Shroomery how to make your DMT water soluble, it's very likely that you do not have the requisite skills to pull this off safely.  Please look into this very carefully and obtain expert consultation before attempting anything.


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: hmmn]
    #19374072 - 01/05/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

thank you hmmn

I'm worried about people who use needles

i hate needles


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: Deathcore]
    #19374124 - 01/05/14 06:00 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I hate needless to it honestly makes me think of "junkies" but i think it would be a crazy intense experince and the curiosty of it


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19375655 - 01/06/14 02:35 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

The "FASA" method: A summary - DMT Fumarate and Beyond

The fumarate is the salt specifically approved by the FDA for human studies, and this was the form used for human intravenous injection employed in the recent New Mexico studies.

TIHKAL
http://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?id=6&domain=tk

Buy syringe filters (aka wheel filters, cuz of how they're shaped) as well.

Shooting it should actually be safer than vaping it because inhalation is very similar to injection. Think how they both come up in seconds. Injection lacks the negative effects on one's lungs. Heroin users use bottled water all the time, so I'm not sure how necessary sterile water is, although sterile water or sterile saline solution will not be hard to obtain. I would think putting a little Lugol's iodine in the water would be a safe way to sanitize water that isn't sterile water (you'd have to figure out appropriate measurements for the iodine) (people elect to take Lugol's iodine as a daily supplement). The syringe filter will ensure that no particulate matter gets into the shot. And any trace amounts of naptha and the like are administered when DMT is vaped, anyway.


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: s240779]
    #19375961 - 01/06/14 06:21 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

IV users of Heroin routinely suffer negative health consequences when they use improper equipment or procedures to inject themselves (e.g. http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/health/abscesses.shtml )

It's actually very important to IV responsibly or not at all.  We should not be giving advice about procedures or materials that we think ought to work ok - the results could be very bad! For example, I couldn't find anything establishing the safety of Lugol's iodine for IV administration.  It's probably sterile, but neither you nor I has a clue as to whether it's safe to administer IV.

Sterile injection materials are, as you say, very easy to obtain.  Similarly, information on how to safely administer drugs via IV is easy to obtain.  There can be no good reason to forgo obtaining expert advice and ideal equipment in favor of anonymous Shroomery advice and potentially dangerous equipment.

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I apologize if this sounds harsh; I'm not saying this to make anybody feel bad, but out of deep concern for OP and anybody else considering IV use who might stumble upon this via search one day.  If you think I'm full of it, go search for "IV heroin fucked vein" and things like that, see what you find.

One major difference between vaporizing DMT and IV injecting it is that when we vaporize substances, those substances must cross a cell membrane before they can enter our bloodstream; vaporizing does not puncture any barrier between the interior and exterior of our bodies.  When we use a needle to place drugs directly into a vein, the cell barrier does not need to be crossed; whatever is in the solution you inject is now in your blood - along with whatever was on the skin you punctured to get the needle inside your vein.  This actually matters!  Your blood is an excellent environment for many pathogens to thrive; that is why our bodies have such extensive systems in place to regulate the passage of materials into our blood.

Don't fuck with IV administration unless you know what you're doing.

:badshroom:

p.s. I didn't even touch on the importance of obtaining pure material to inject in the first place.  Injecting a mixture of DMT and plant oils could have very bad consequences even if your injection technique is perfect.  Very few people actually go through the necessary steps to purify DMT; most popular teks settle for a product that is pure enough to vaporize successfully, and none have steps that would allow you to actually measure the purity of your sample.


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Re: thinking bout iv'ing dmt [Re: hmmn]
    #19376544 - 01/06/14 09:48 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I would probably rather smoke dmt as if im right I don't think it really comes on faster at all and still just provides the same breakthrough but in this book ive read(its a grahm handcock book called supernatural teachers of mankind if interested its pretty good)It mentioned that in rick strassmans studies people were given dmt by iv and it seemed interesting. also I think iv psycadellics is not a horrible idea I have broken through on super high doses of oral dmt and that was very comparable to the times I ived 4 aco dmt. also if I can find any more info on it I will possibly iv 4 ho mipt and see if I can breakthrough


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