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5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT?
    #19372486 - 01/05/14 11:40 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Hey all.  Was wondering how these two compare. I see that the chemical structure is closely related.  I have smoked DMT plenty of times and was thinking about trying 5-meo-DMt here really soon.  Was is your preference?  How closely similar or different are the highs?


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Ogla]
    #19372770 - 01/05/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Here's my experience, based on smoking DMT about a dozen times and 5-Meo-DMT about a million times.

In the psychedelic spectrum, they are quite similar, but not the same.  The only other hallucinogen I've ever sampled that came nearly as close as 5-Meo-DMT is to DMT would be DPT.  (When taken at equivalent dosages,) the effects of 5-Meo-DMT and DMT are similar in their general nature, intensity, and duration.
However, I would say DMT has greater effects on the sensory component of the trip (i.e. stronger visuals), whereas 5-Meo-DMT has greater effects on the "mind" part of the trip--thoughts and feelings.  That's not to imply that DMT has little potential for psychospiritual/cognitive exploration, or that 5-Meo-DMT won't make you hallucinate intensely in classic "tryptamine kaleidoscope" fashion -- there is a lot of overlapping of effects between the two.  It's just that personally, DMT is a little more about the senses and 5-Meo-DMT is a little more about the mind (if that makes any sense.)


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #19372884 - 01/05/14 01:08 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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Land_Crab said:
Here's my experience, based on smoking DMT about a dozen times and 5-Meo-DMT about a million times.

In the psychedelic spectrum, they are quite similar, but not the same.  The only other hallucinogen I've ever sampled that came nearly as close as 5-Meo-DMT is to DMT would be DPT.  (When taken at equivalent dosages,) the effects of 5-Meo-DMT and DMT are similar in their general nature, intensity, and duration.
However, I would say DMT has greater effects on the sensory component of the trip (i.e. stronger visuals), whereas 5-Meo-DMT has greater effects on the "mind" part of the trip--thoughts and feelings.  That's not to imply that DMT has little potential for psychospiritual/cognitive exploration, or that 5-Meo-DMT won't make you hallucinate intensely in classic "tryptamine kaleidoscope" fashion -- there is a lot of overlapping of effects between the two.  It's just that personally, DMT is a little more about the senses and 5-Meo-DMT is a little more about the mind (if that makes any sense.)




It makes a lot of sense, I've heard so much about DMT, but I never understood what could be the difference between 5-Meo and N,N in terms of effect.


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: VaultKnowledge]
    #19372964 - 01/05/14 01:21 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Isn't it also true that 5-MeO works by insufflation and N,N doesn't?


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19373197 - 01/05/14 02:10 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

I was under the impression that there really are no visuals/hallucinations on 5meo.  Its just the "void".


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Aopocetx] * 1
    #19373233 - 01/05/14 02:21 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

n,n dmt works perfectly fine when insufflated... if you have it in a salt form, as opposed to freebase, it is wonderful... if you snort the freebase, well, good luck with that... nothing like hyperspace with a hot poker rammed up yr nose...

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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: afrogus]
    #19373244 - 01/05/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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I was under the impression that there really are no visuals/hallucinations on 5meo.  Its just the "void".




What do you mean by that?


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19373630 - 01/05/14 04:03 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Land_Crab described it well, I think.

'The Void', for me, manifests as a very unnerving, scary feeling of emptiness. Some people find it quite profound and blissful, some people start screaming and panicking. You get overwhelmed during the come-up before you reach that point, too. It sort of reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Brian takes psilocybin mushrooms, falls down a hellish pit, hits the bottom, and experiences that white-out effect.

Mild visual distortions are sometimes present. I can usually open my eyes and see my environment quite clearly, but I'm overcome with strong derealization; I can sort of see, but can't at the same time. Everything loses significance, depth and meaning.


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: afrogus]
    #19373646 - 01/05/14 04:07 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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afrogus said:
I was under the impression that there really are no visuals/hallucinations on 5meo.  Its just the "void".




5-Meo-DMT definitely has visuals, though if you're taking an ego-dissolving "void" dose those sensory effects merge with the sum of the experience to the extent that you can't really isolate or distinguish them from the rest of what is happening.
Random tip: Combine DMT or 5-Meo-DMT with Salvia if you really want to push the boundaries.  (Use caution.)

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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Terratic]
    #19374135 - 01/05/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

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afrogus said:
I was under the impression that there really are no visuals/hallucinations on 5meo.  Its just the "void".




What do you mean by that?



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Terratic said:
Land_Crab described it well, I think.

'The Void', for me, manifests as a very unnerving, scary feeling of emptiness. Some people find it quite profound and blissful, some people start screaming and panicking. You get overwhelmed during the come-up before you reach that point, too. It sort of reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Brian takes psilocybin mushrooms, falls down a hellish pit, hits the bottom, and experiences that white-out effect.

Mild visual distortions are sometimes present. I can usually open my eyes and see my environment quite clearly, but I'm overcome with strong derealization; I can sort of see, but can't at the same time. Everything loses significance, depth and meaning.




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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #19375202 - 01/05/14 10:52 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

that picture it make me jealous lol. i wish i knew about 5meo before it became scheduled.  i guess maybe it's a hint to stock up on some dpt although i don't know if that's as good as i hear 5meo is


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Re: 5-meo-DMt vs reagular DMT? [Re: Jesus Christ]
    #19375241 - 01/05/14 11:05 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

curious as to the difference between the two, too. 

5-MeO-DiPT differs drastically than DiPT.  would want to say the same with DMT, but have no experience with 5-MeO-DMT.


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