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RandomFX
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They grow boxes of them standing right next to each other by the dozens. and they do it in like hangers and warehouses....if they can do it in a professional outfit, call me weird, but I do not think of them as super men with powers, they just know what the secret is evidently and I do not. They did it before people used .1-.3 micron flow hoods also, I am willing to bet, so it surely 'can' be done.... it's like a big huge secret I am unable to get in on yet.....but I will....oh yes...I will.
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Amanita virosa
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Re: growing button or Agaricus bisporus [Re: RandomFX]
#19381553 - 01/07/14 09:44 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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The biggest "secret" is knowing how to produce the substrate by active composting. It needs to heat up good to kill mold spores and bacteria. That's where you need to start. Experiment with compost recipes using straw and manure to produce your own suitable substrate for growing agaricus. Honestly though, there are other agaricus species that are far more valuable and tasty, including The Prince (A. angustifolia)  and The King (A. blazei)  Figure either one of these out and you can make lots of money (if that is your goal)
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RandomFX
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My goal right now is just to have them to eat in abundance, while learning. Then it will probably turn into selling enough to pay for cost and at least make it self sufficient. Then it will probably turn into selling enough to cover the times when something goes wrong and to cover the long term expenses....then maybe to make a profit. maybe.
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thiotimoline
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Could pasteurized spent substrate (such as straw that oyster mushrooms have grown on) work as compost for this purpose? Could worm compost work? Or does it really truly have to be standard bacterial compost that achieves ~pasteurizing temperatures under its own power?
In a sense I don't need an answer because I'm going to try those things anyway. I will be absurdly smug if I even get a single Prince to grow. But I'd like to hear more about others' results.
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liamtheloser
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Re: growing button or Agaricus bisporus [Re: RandomFX]
#19381984 - 01/07/14 11:34 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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My suggestion would be to emulate the big growers and use fresh chicken shit and fresh straw and compost them together. Use trays and a high spawn rate. I suggest visiting mushroom farms in your area and learning from them.
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thiotimoline
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Re: growing button or Agaricus bisporus [Re: liamtheloser]
#19381995 - 01/07/14 11:37 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Unfortunately I live in the middle of a city. While I am lucky to have a yard (shared with another apartment, but they seem OK with my mushrooms so far), anything with a strong smell is not an option for me.
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liamtheloser
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Re: growing button or Agaricus bisporus [Re: thiotimoline]
#19382094 - 01/07/14 12:00 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Ahhhhh, Well that is a bummer. I suppose you could try mixing chicken manure compost (available at home depot) with straw and composting that, it won't smell that bad.
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Ganzig
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Re: growing button or Agaricus bisporus [Re: liamtheloser]
#19382567 - 01/07/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah that bagged poo does not smell. Well, it has a smell but it is not poo.
More like garden compost.
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cmspice
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Re: growing button or Agaricus bisporus [Re: Ganzig]
#19396497 - 01/09/14 11:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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Are there any good sources on people growing non bisporus agaricus's?
-------------------- have: blue, brown, pink, yellow, elm, king oyster, reishi, nameko, black poplar, shaggy mane, PESA want: ABM, ganoderma spp., straw mushroom, exotic pleurotus species, ethno cuttings/seeds.
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