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MudaFuka
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19372275 - 01/05/14 10:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: have you blown smoke into your chamber to see if thats really what the air is doing? is there a place where the air is being pushed out?
I have not, however the lid on the tub is definitely imperfect so I kinda assumed it would just naturally push the old air out through the top. I know it's not spinning like a tornado though 
Do you think it would be better if I drilled a single little hole to make sure the air had a fully unobstructed place to escape?
What's the best way to get smoke into the chamber without it just going all over the place?
iv managed to make a tornado like air current in my GH by simply pointing air hoses into the corners of the GH. I use and ultrasonic fogger for humidity and when it turns on I can see the fog swirling around the entire GH much like a tornado.
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: cronicr]
#19372276 - 01/05/14 10:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: i do it when it's empty, tested my pan mono out this way lol. just curiuos because in a traditional mono the air comes freely through the top and is forced out the bottom so theres fresh air moving around at the sub level, i used a party fogger to get my pan mono dialed
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cronicr



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19372281 - 01/05/14 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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well wutever the case it's working for ya
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cronicr



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MudaFuka]
#19372295 - 01/05/14 10:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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MudaFuka said:
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elasticaltiger said:
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cronicr said: have you blown smoke into your chamber to see if thats really what the air is doing? is there a place where the air is being pushed out?
I have not, however the lid on the tub is definitely imperfect so I kinda assumed it would just naturally push the old air out through the top. I know it's not spinning like a tornado though 
Do you think it would be better if I drilled a single little hole to make sure the air had a fully unobstructed place to escape?
What's the best way to get smoke into the chamber without it just going all over the place?
iv managed to make a tornado like air current in my GH by simply pointing air hoses into the corners of the GH. I use and ultrasonic fogger for humidity and when it turns on I can see the fog swirling around the entire GH much like a tornado.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: cronicr]
#19372300 - 01/05/14 10:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also just realized. We get asked a lot about stealth grows on here. With some tweaking this could potentially lead to being a nice 'closet grow box' as long as there is a place for air to escape. They also make versions of this pump that are 'ultra silent' though honestly I can't really hear this one. Figuring out lighting would be one of the main challenges but maybe just a little LED shining into it. Anne's always raving about blue lights.
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cronicr



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19372308 - 01/05/14 10:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: Also just realized. We get asked a lot about stealth grows on here. With some tweaking this could potentially lead to being a nice 'closet grow box' as long as there is a place for air to escape. They also make versions of this pump that are 'ultra silent' though honestly I can't really hear this one. Figuring out lighting would be one of the main challenges but maybe just a little LED shining into it. Anne's always raving about blue lights. 
a little more honest....
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Gr13nMushDude
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: cronicr]
#19372327 - 01/05/14 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gona have to try this for the first mono. There aint no room for fans in my room. Really I dont like air currents lol
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cronicr



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Gr13nMushDude]
#19372337 - 01/05/14 11:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hacker aid he doesn't even use fans these days
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Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: cronicr]
#19372368 - 01/05/14 11:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I stopped using one as well, got a SGFC too look after these days However my hybrid monos didn't even notice and with a small adjustment with my poly and my regular monos ain't too concerned either.
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cronicr



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19372381 - 01/05/14 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yep just looser poly or none at all should cut it(top holes) i like the mono mods i'm seeing these days, i made mine for my pans with 8 1 inch holes and......well i'll go into that another time, nice stuff ET(haha ET)
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19372419 - 01/05/14 11:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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blojo02184 said: So elastical, let me get this straight. You did a mono style grow in a tote with nothing but a 5/16" hole for an air inlet hose, with no holes in the tote.
Correct. Except there are two hoses. One on each side. Let me draw you a picture

I was hoping the hoses on opposite ends of each wall would make a kind of 'tornado' shaped circulation of air though I am aware that this is not how it works in reality. The first time I did it they were right across from each other in the center. This placement just seemed to make more sense than that.
I do not know the CFM of the pump. It was the cheapest fish tank pump they had at wal mart with two hose connections.
EDIT: Just checked the model online. It says it pumps 'up to' 1200cc of air per minute.
Assuming that number is roughly accurate it means that an empty tub gets and entire fresh air exchange every 52 minutes. That does not factor in that about a quarter the volume of the tote is taken up by the substrate.
Even if the pump wasn't operating optimally, say 1000 cc per minute then I'd still be getting a full exchange every hour or about 24 full air cycles a day. If you try and roughly factor in the substrate volume it comes out to an exchange every 45 minutes at 1000 cc per minute or 31 cycles.
Very cool project! I look forward to seeing the results.
Nice cat!
I've contemplated using an Oxygen concentrator during fruiting. I'm probably going to try it at some point and report my findings.
Edited by MarcusFreeman (01/05/14 11:26 AM)
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spacechildo
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19372614 - 01/05/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I stopped using one as well, got a SGFC too look after these days However my hybrid monos didn't even notice and with a small adjustment with my poly and my regular monos ain't too concerned either.
I'm trying to get this right but just can't seem to. How's your hybrid mono setup? I've tried some 1/5 -> 1/6" holes on top and very loose poly on bottom but I still get chunks of fuzzy feet.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: spacechildo]
#19372663 - 01/05/14 12:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuzzy feet can be genetic. I have had fat ass roubust meaty shrooms still exhibit a little fuzz. Here is a shot of my hybrid monos.

Sorry for the thread jack Elastic, back to our regularly scheduled program
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MarcusFreeman



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19372760 - 01/05/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: Also just realized. We get asked a lot about stealth grows on here. With some tweaking this could potentially lead to being a nice 'closet grow box' as long as there is a place for air to escape. They also make versions of this pump that are 'ultra silent' though honestly I can't really hear this one. Figuring out lighting would be one of the main challenges but maybe just a little LED shining into it. Anne's always raving about blue lights. 
Do you have any links to Anne talking about blue lights?
Without knowing what she says, here is what I know about light, spectrum, and photosynthesis.
PAR stands for Photosynthetically active radiation. Par is relevant to all organisms that use photosynthesis.
PAR is found in light spectrums between 400-700 nm. Photosynthesis peaks when the spectrum is between 420-480 nm.
Most blue LEDs come around 450-470nm: producing prime growing spectrums for photosynthetic organism.
Since mushrooms are not photosynthetic, I would love to learn about their relationship to light and spectrum.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19372762 - 01/05/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's cool. I have just decided on my plan for the new year. I've got some isolates coming up. Let's do a side by side comparison of the traditional mono and the air pumps.
I'll shoot for 5 tubs of each.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MarcusFreeman]
#19372774 - 01/05/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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MarcusFreeman said:
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elasticaltiger said: Also just realized. We get asked a lot about stealth grows on here. With some tweaking this could potentially lead to being a nice 'closet grow box' as long as there is a place for air to escape. They also make versions of this pump that are 'ultra silent' though honestly I can't really hear this one. Figuring out lighting would be one of the main challenges but maybe just a little LED shining into it. Anne's always raving about blue lights. 
Do you have any links to Anne talking about blue lights?
Without knowing what she says, here is what I know about light, spectrum, and photosynthesis.
PAR stands for Photosynthetically active radiation. Par is relevant to all organisms that use photosynthesis.
PAR is found in light spectrums between 400-700 nm. Photosynthesis peaks when the spectrum is between 420-480 nm.
Most blue LEDs come around 450-470nm: producing prime growing spectrums for photosynthetic organism.
Since mushrooms are not photosynthetic, I would love to learn about their relationship to light and spectrum.
Just search for 'blue lights' in the forum search and filter by poster anne halonium. I think that's how she spells it. Gotta get off to work now!
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: MarcusFreeman]
#19372975 - 01/05/14 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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MarcusFreeman said: Do you have any links to Anne talking about blue lights?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ignoreinfo.php
"IT" is number one on that list, and you can search posts from there. Good luck trying to comprehend anything it writes about. It seems to think that haiku is a proper form of communication.
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anne halonium
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19372982 - 01/05/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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huh? anne and blue lights?
great for fungi and cacti,

great for fungi and cacti, LOW IR, low heat, low energy consumption, and now more affordable than ever.
they are very new age......
be warned though, trolls go insane when i talk about advanced lighting.
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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
#19373097 - 01/05/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whippy said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ignoreinfo.php
"IT" is number one on that list
Damn....Im the 46th most ignored shroomerite.....cool.
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cronicr



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Re: The Air Pump Monotub Round II - Multispore Cubensis (Fiji) pins [Re: PussyFart]
#19373111 - 01/05/14 01:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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Whippy said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ignoreinfo.php
"IT" is number one on that list
Damn....Im the 46th most ignored shroomerite.....cool.
keep up the good work hacker
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