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Filterhead462
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DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms
#19371474 - 01/05/14 05:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hear some people say a real high dose of mushrooms is like a DMT trip Are they extremely similar or is a DMT breakthrough in a league of its own as far as intensity/visuals go?
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Filterhead462]
#19371501 - 01/05/14 06:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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there are similarities but people saying its like DMT are retards! You find em plenty here
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: rikuni]
#19371554 - 01/05/14 06:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rikuni said: there are similarities but people saying its like DMT are retards! You find em plenty here
There's a book by Rick Strassman that says they're similar. Shit, psilocin is close to DMT molecularly. So let's see, who's the idiot, you or Rick Strassman?
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Aopocetx]
#19371561 - 01/05/14 06:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rikuni said: there are similarities but people saying its like DMT are retards! You find em plenty here
There's a book by Rick Strassman that says they're similar. Shit, psilocin is close to DMT molecularly. So let's see, who's the idiot, you or Rick Strassman?
MOFOS who dont know shit should not try to compare. Strassman is the idiot if it comes to the psychedelic experience
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: rikuni]
#19371587 - 01/05/14 07:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even mescaline, in my experience, shares similarity to a smoked dmt trip, in higher doses. But weirdly, in my humble opinion, shrooms aren't any more similar to dmt than bridgesii cactus is. Ok....maybe slightly more similar.
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
#19371761 - 01/05/14 08:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I found them to be pretty similar. A real high dose of mushrooms in a totally dark room gives me the same vista including domes, skulls and birdlike beings. The mushrooms are easier to take IMO, I strongly dislike the smell of dmt.
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Aopocetx]
#19371781 - 01/05/14 08:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aopocetx said:
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rikuni said: there are similarities but people saying its like DMT are retards! You find em plenty here
There's a book by Rick Strassman that says they're similar. Shit, psilocin is close to DMT molecularly. So let's see, who's the idiot, you or Rick Strassman?
Even ayahuasca doesn't feel like DMT to me. Molecular structure doesn't tell you everything by itself. I won't deny there are similarities, but there are usually differences too
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19371825 - 01/05/14 08:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even ayahuasca doesn't feel like DMT to me. Molecular structure doesn't tell you everything by itself. I won't deny there are similarities, but there are usually differences too
Ayahuasca, which has DMT in it, doesn't feel like DMT to you?
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19371832 - 01/05/14 08:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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JacksonMetaller said: Even ayahuasca doesn't feel like DMT to me. Molecular structure doesn't tell you everything by itself. I won't deny there are similarities, but there are usually differences too
That's interesting... how do oral and smoked DMT feel different to you? I wonder if it's the presence of the vine that changes the experience since caapi is psychoactive on its own
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Acidreamer]
#19371841 - 01/05/14 08:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Take 10 grams dry and find out.
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Fungi]
#19371896 - 01/05/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've taken 7 grams of VERY potent mushrooms before and both times they felt a lot like DMT. I was hearing bells chiming and other things I hear on DMT while tripping on the shrooms. When I was peaking, the visuals and body high were also very DMT like.
When I took 2 hits of L and 5.5 g's of cyans, that felt a lot like DMT and acid. If you ask me, DMT and mushrooms are very similar. They both take you on a ride, and at higher doses, the ride will get bumpy.
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19371906 - 01/05/14 09:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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rikuni said: there are similarities but people saying its like DMT are retards! You find em plenty here
There's a book by Rick Strassman that says they're similar. Shit, psilocin is close to DMT molecularly. So let's see, who's the idiot, you or Rick Strassman?
Even ayahuasca doesn't feel like DMT to me. Molecular structure doesn't tell you everything by itself. I won't deny there are similarities, but there are usually differences too
omg! theres someone with a brain and / or experience here on shroomery
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: rikuni]
#19372021 - 01/05/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushrooms at 5 grams and up is almost identical to 50mg of smoked dmt just longer lasting and not abrupt and more intense visions. but the same type of visions and patterns and colors. ayahuasca on the other hand is npthing like smoked dmt for me at all. just because ot is mot similar to you does npt mean every one else is wrong. its not crazy to think thay 4-ho-dmt migth be similar to n,n-dmt
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Acidreamer]
#19372068 - 01/05/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even ayahuasca doesn't feel like DMT to me. Molecular structure doesn't tell you everything by itself. I won't deny there are similarities, but there are usually differences too
Ayahuasca, which has DMT in it, doesn't feel like DMT to you? 
I mean it has a DMT "feel" but is characteristically different ime
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JacksonMetaller said: Even ayahuasca doesn't feel like DMT to me. Molecular structure doesn't tell you everything by itself. I won't deny there are similarities, but there are usually differences too
That's interesting... how do oral and smoked DMT feel different to you? I wonder if it's the presence of the vine that changes the experience since caapi is psychoactive on its own
Could be, or could be the duration which affects set/setting. In terms of how they're different, it's very hard to describe but ayahuasca feels far more chaotic whereas smoked DMT always feels orderly. Sometimes ayahuasca just feels like my brain is exploding into absurd images. DMT feels like its guiding me towards sacred knowledge. Not that ayahuasca doesn't. I've certainly had spectacular moments that were very akin to a dmt trip, but as a whole it is a far different experience
I actually feel that mushrooms are "more" similar, at least in moderate doses. Never took a high dose of shrooms
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: allseeingike]
#19372122 - 01/05/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rikuni is just closeminded so you shouldn't listen to anything he says. The forums feel cleaner after I blocked him.
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: Aopocetx]
#19372141 - 01/05/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aopocetx said: Rikuni is just closeminded so you shouldn't listen to anything he says. The forums feel cleaner after I blocked him.
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: allseeingike]
#19372251 - 01/05/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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allseeingike said: mushrooms at 5 grams and up is almost identical to 50mg of smoked dmt just longer lasting and not abrupt and more intense visions. but the same type of visions and patterns and colors. ayahuasca on the other hand is npthing like smoked dmt for me at all. just because ot is mot similar to you does npt mean every one else is wrong. its not crazy to think thay 4-ho-dmt migth be similar to n,n-dmt
Dafuq. Those must be some potent cubies. 5g for me is not even a fraction as intense as 50mg dmt. I took a walk around my neighborhood on 5gs, I can't see the room on 50mg dmt
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: DMT breakthrough or High dose of shrooms [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19372753 - 01/05/14 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone reacts so differently to all these things. 10 inches of solid whole bridgesii cactus imho was as intense as 25-30 mg smoked dmt for me
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MagicalOrangutan said: Everyone reacts so differently to all these things. 10 inches of solid whole bridgesii cactus imho was as intense as 25-30 mg smoked dmt for me
This I took 3 hits of acid last year that where stronger than any dmt trip I ever had I was completely out of this reality for eternities ( about 4 hours earth timel but the peak was just as intense as a 28 gram mishroom trip I had in 2010 ( mushroom trip peaked for 6 to 8 hours though) also the 5 grams I usually take are penis envy if that makes a difference but it definately hits a bit stronger than dmt ( also I always use lemon tek regardless of dose)
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