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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19374057 - 01/05/14 05:47 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

fuck that.  white power!


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: g00ru]
    #19374058 - 01/05/14 05:47 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has vowed to eliminate "all terrorist groups" from Anbar province after al-Qaeda-linked fighters gained control of the town of Fallujah.

Maliki, speaking on state television on Saturday, said his government would end "fitna", or disunity, in the province and would "not back down until we end all terrorist groups and save our people in Anbar".

His comments came after a senior Iraqi security official told the AFP news agency that the government had lost control of Fallujah to fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

The police chief of Anbar, Hadi Razeij, later said the centre of Fallujah had fallen completely into the hands of ISIL fighters. "The walls of the city are in the hands of the police force, but the people of Fallujah are the prisoners of ISIL."

Videos showed ISIL fighters also in control of the main Fallujah highway, and officials and witnesses inside the town told the Reuters news agency that ISIL was in northern and northeastern parts of the town.

The ISIL has been tightening its grip in the Sunni-dominated desert province, near the Syrian border, in recent months in its effort to create an Islamic state across the Iraqi-Syrian borders.

In Ramadi, the other main city in Anbar, local tribesmen and the Iraqi security forces have worked together to counter the ISIL.

But in Fallujah, the Iraqi army has been prevented from entering by local Sunni tribesmen who, despite not supporting al-Qaeda fighters, are opposed to the Shia dominated government of Maliki.

Military shelling

Al Jazeera's Imran Khan said: "The Iraqi army is on the outskirts of the town, negotiating with tribal leaders to go and fight the ISIL. They need cooperation from the leaders to go in and root out the militants.

"The military had a base just outside, from where they were shelling the city. They have withdrawn from that base and the tribal leaders have moved in, claiming a victory, but it isn’t clear yet from the army if it was rather a tactical withdrawal."

More than 100 people were killed on Friday during fighting in Fallujah and Ramadi, one of the worst days since violence flared when Iraqi police broke up a Sunni protest camp in Anbar on Monday.

The escalating tension shows the civil war in Syria, where mostly Sunni rebels are battling President Bashar al-Assad, who is backed by Shia Iran, is spilling over to other countries such as Iraq, threatening delicate sectarian balances.

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/01/iraq-government-loses-control-fallujah-20141414625597514.html

No way they are gonna be successful in clearing Anbar of terrorists, whatever that means.  Seems like more excuses for senseless Sunni/Shiite violence with western powers funding both sides.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19374064 - 01/05/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I love the Israelis, they know how to keep the heathen muslim in line. You shoot a rocket into tel-Aviv, Israeli tanks flatten your schools


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: g00ru]
    #19374100 - 01/05/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Mohammed who established one of the largest land empires ever and actually saved western civilization's intellectual ass...ever heard of Saladin? The Ottoman Empire? It's really sad what's happened to the middle east...




Bullshit.  Saved Western civilization's ass?  The Otttoman Empire was also a horror.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19374101 - 01/05/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

why is it any of this shit in the middle east any of americants problem>?

seriously? oil, fuck it find something better

poppies, fuck it find somewhere else

delete the middle east like a friend on facebook and get on with it.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #19374110 - 01/05/14 05:57 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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g00ru said:
Mohammed who established one of the largest land empires ever and actually saved western civilization's intellectual ass...ever heard of Saladin? The Ottoman Empire? It's really sad what's happened to the middle east...




Bullshit.  Saved Western civilization's ass?  The Otttoman Empire was also a horror.




yeah man they carried the torch of much Greek knowledge before the renaissance. And the Ottomans were glorious!


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: rackem]
    #19374116 - 01/05/14 05:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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why is it any of this shit in the middle east any of americants problem>?




Because they are desirous of a world wide caliphate
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seriously? oil, fuck it find something better




Theer is notihng better but if we didn't have a plethora of environmentalist douchbags running the show we wouldn't have to import any.
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poppies, fuck it find somewhere else




Poppies?
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delete the middle east like a friend on facebook and get on with it.




I don't think it quite works like that.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19374194 - 01/05/14 06:21 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

well it should..

just saying, we can be very self sufficient here in america..  we dont need them.

we have oil here...


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #19374216 - 01/05/14 06:26 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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g00ru said:
Mohammed who established one of the largest land empires ever and actually saved western civilization's intellectual ass...ever heard of Saladin? The Ottoman Empire? It's really sad what's happened to the middle east...




yeah, they accepted a religion so wholeheartedly to become fanatics and ironically devolved to cavemen


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212] * 3
    #19374221 - 01/05/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

look, if you can't appreciate the history then don't even comment on it. For many years Islam held hugely powerful empires. And yes we can see where their warlike origins have led them in today's society. But don't discount the awesomeness of their past.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: g00ru]
    #19374245 - 01/05/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I'm not disputing that, they were advanced, and now despite 2014 most Islamic countries are backwaters


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19374282 - 01/05/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

yeah it's the pits for sure.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: g00ru]
    #19374291 - 01/05/14 06:46 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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yeah it's the pits for sure.




what have we learned, replacing critical thinking and logic with radical religious dogma is a recipe for disaster. You think if they were so god damn smart they would have observed Europe and learned its lessons


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19374299 - 01/05/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

well i mean its like i actually don't have a problem with their religion. i have read some of the quaran - it's awesome. i also don't have a problem with religious codes. i think the issue is a very modern one indeed.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Synthe]
    #19374303 - 01/05/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

fallujah was the talibans strong hold, i think they were always going to "take beck thar citehhh" (bane voice), it was just a matter of time.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Soulidarity] * 2
    #19374315 - 01/05/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

The Taliban is relegated to Afghanistan open a news paper


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19374320 - 01/05/14 06:54 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

same shit, they are towel wearing desert dwelling terrtorist and we need to exterminate all'a'em

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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Soulidarity] * 1
    #19374338 - 01/05/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Al Qaeda is largely religious/political motivated terrorists, whereas Taliban are just narco/political motivated thugs. All scum, but you have to know all species and motivation of said scum. Know your enemy know yourself


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19374446 - 01/05/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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No American is in any way responsible for the shithole that is the Islamic retardate in the Middle East.  Nor any other Westerner.  These people have been uncivilized lunatics for over a millenium.  Do you know who kills more Muslims than anybody else?  Religious fanatic Muslims.  The rest of them need to fight for themselves.
Not to you:
  No such thing as al Qaeda?  That is fucking stupid beyond measure.




When you give a crack whore more crack you become part of the problem.  You know who else I blame?  Condi, Rummy, the New York Times, the CIA, the U.S. Congress, the Senate, and anyone who voted to re-elect any of those people.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19374540 - 01/05/14 07:52 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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zappaisgod said:
No American is in any way responsible for the shithole that is the Islamic retardate in the Middle East.  Nor any other Westerner.  These people have been uncivilized lunatics for over a millenium.  Do you know who kills more Muslims than anybody else?  Religious fanatic Muslims.  The rest of them need to fight for themselves.
Not to you:
  No such thing as al Qaeda?  That is fucking stupid beyond measure.




Well there was kinda that whole Sykes-Picot Agreement thing, when the west carved up the former Ottoman Empire. A lot of people would say this is one of the major reasons the middle east is so unstable.

So it wasn't exactly America, but you can't really say the west had nothing to do with it.....


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