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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: k00laid]
    #19403628 - 01/11/14 12:31 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

We helped stop the nazis it wasn't Merica alone.

Russia was also playing the great game and are what really beat the Germany's

Just the pure numbers of dead on the russian front was what really stop dem Nazis



Japan and the Germany's where only allies of convince my enemy of my enemy.

The same was with the eastern bloc and USSR . Hell Stalin didnt trust us after fighting white forces trained and armed by the us, uk france and the Japanese.



Listen everybody plays / has played the grat game.  Like it or not the USA/ Nato won for at least a little while longer......


And really guys who would rather have won? Look at the other semi world powers  China Russia  Nazi's  the great british empire or the USA?

Sorry but Im gonna take the usa everytime I live in the usa so I would be stupid not to be happy with that


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: trekie]
    #19403695 - 01/11/14 12:46 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

The Soviets beat the Nazis, we just distracted them long enough.

And we couldnt beat the Japanese without dropping two atom bombs.

Our military might in WW2 is vastly embellished.

We were simply the only nation without it's factories being constantly bombed into oblivion.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19403712 - 01/11/14 12:49 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

The US sort of saved western Europe from being overrun by the Soviets, though.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19403728 - 01/11/14 12:53 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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The US sort of saved western Europe from being overrun by the Soviets, though.




Very true.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19403761 - 01/11/14 01:01 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Trading blockades notwithstanding, we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, on American soil, by an entire nation.





the blockade was the reason behind the attack on pearl harbor

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We invaded Europe because otherwise England was going to disappear and Russia was losing a shitload of men on the eastern front. It was definitely a necessary action




and these were US problems in what way?


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19403793 - 01/11/14 01:07 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Trading blockades notwithstanding, we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, on American soil, by an entire nation.





the blockade was the reason behind the attack on pearl harbor

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We invaded Europe because otherwise England was going to disappear and Russia was losing a shitload of men on the eastern front. It was definitely a necessary action




and these were US problems in what way?




The Nazis controlled over two dozen nations and were quickly decimating the only other force capable of stopping them. Had we not assisted, the Nazis and Japanese could have very well invaded the United States.

Now I'll be the first to admit dealing in hypotheticals is what got us into our current mess, but the odds were pretty clear in 1944. The Japanese were pushing us further and further back, England was basically comatose, and the Soviets were dropping like flies. We made slight headway against Rommel, and afterwards into Italy but that wouldn't have amounted to anything without the invasion of France.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19404380 - 01/11/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Trading blockades notwithstanding, we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, on American soil, by an entire nation.





the blockade was the reason behind the attack on pearl harbor

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We invaded Europe because otherwise England was going to disappear and Russia was losing a shitload of men on the eastern front. It was definitely a necessary action




and these were US problems in what way?




The Nazis controlled over two dozen nations and were quickly decimating the only other force capable of stopping them. Had we not assisted, the Nazis and Japanese could have very well invaded the United States.




it's easy to speculate on something when it never happened

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Now I'll be the first to admit dealing in hypotheticals is what got us into our current mess, but the odds were pretty clear in 1944.




but if we hadnt stuck our noses into their affairs with china...

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The Japanese were pushing us further and further back, England was basically comatose, and the Soviets were dropping like flies. We made slight headway against Rommel, and afterwards into Italy but that wouldn't have amounted to anything without the invasion of France.




what did the japanese push us back from? interfering with their shit?

and none of this would have happened if we'd have just kept our nose ot of
the business of the japanese and the germans. remember, the US has the
largest civilian army in the world, we always have


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19404580 - 01/11/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

They pushed us out of the Phillipines and back past the Marshall Islands.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19406641 - 01/12/14 01:57 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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k00laid said:
why would that concern you?

and what have i said that lead you to believe i am an anti-semite?




I wonder if this is the common cultural understanding of semitic people, meaning Jews, or if he actually thinks you are hateful towards speakers of semitic languages.

It bugs me how Zionist sympathizers strive to make criticisms of an elitist and dogmatic belief system sound like racism.  I'm sorry that I don't believe Jews are singled out by YWYH as a chosen ones, but I don't think that makes me a bigot.  I'm sorry I consider forced circumcision on infants utterly ridiculous and cruel, but I don't think that makes me a hateful person. 

I won't turn this into an OT criticism of Zionism and other aspects of Judiasm I resent, I just wish Jews could be criticized without certain people going into defence-mode.  Its just another religion!  No better, no worse.  I love all my brothers and sisters in this world, but I think Jews are just as dangerous and worthy of scrutiny as anyone. 

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The Ecstatic said:
The Soviets beat the Nazis, we just distracted them long enough.

And we couldnt beat the Japanese without dropping two atom bombs.

Our military might in WW2 is vastly embellished.

We were simply the only nation without it's factories being constantly bombed into oblivion.




I think its important to recognize the role the Nazis played in their own downfall.  They were like an autistic savant who is incredibly focused and talented in some areas, but way off on their overall understanding of the world.

For example:
The silly weapons and other risky gambles/outright waste of key resources.
A rigid social environment that ultimately encourages disunity, distrust, and disaffection.
Extreme grandiosity.

Starting to sound like somecountry I know :tongue:


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19407219 - 01/12/14 07:36 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

You are more than welcome to rail on Jews, its well within your first amendment right to speak on anything you wish. The Zionist shit was off topic and taking away from the convo.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212] * 1
    #19407229 - 01/12/14 07:41 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

you think that zionism is off topic when discussing U.S. intervention in the middle east?


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: k00laid]
    #19407252 - 01/12/14 07:53 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Debates over, talk about whatever you want now.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19407265 - 01/12/14 07:59 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

:lol: i love how you declare it over when youre so clearly wrong.
zionism and the U.S. support of israel is quite relevant to all things middle eastern.


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Re: So al-Qaeda just took Fallujah [Re: k00laid]
    #19407274 - 01/12/14 08:02 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Kewl brah,now have fun with it. Discuss


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