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TheLoopIs

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SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp?
#19370200 - 01/04/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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My last hope on why my brf cakes havent fruited after 5+ weeks is because of the wrong light, can't figure it out, anyone know how to tell ? Here is my set up.... Temps are good, humidity 80-95 on hyrdo rocks instead of perlite already dunked in water second time to try to pin
WHY?!
Can I crumble up the cakes and see what happens that way?
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dceodhz
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370220 - 01/04/14 08:44 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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You should take a picture of the writing OK the bulb itself. Cubes can fruit in total darkness so the light may not be an issue. It looks like you used the tall 1/2 pint jars, which take longer to colonize and thus fruit, if you didn't consolidate. Another option could be contams.
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MudaFuka
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: dceodhz]
#19370258 - 01/04/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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how is your FAE?
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TheLoopIs

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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: MudaFuka]
#19370327 - 01/04/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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didnt understand first part dceohdz! Maybe some hidden contams at the core then :/ FAE Should be great in a SC? How would one go about knowing that mudafuka?
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cronicr



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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370341 - 01/04/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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TheLoopIs said: didnt understand first part dceohdz! Maybe some hidden contams at the core then :/ FAE Should be great in a SC? How would one go about knowing that mudafuka?
if your not seeing any condensation on your walls, and no don't crumble the more you mess with them the farther back you set yourself just make sure it's hydrated and gettting good fresh air exchange, you may wanna pile some moist verm on top those are pretty big cakes
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370354 - 01/04/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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How often do you fan it?
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TheLoopIs

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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: cronicr]
#19370355 - 01/04/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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I'll try that thanks cronicr!
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TheLoopIs

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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370357 - 01/04/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Do u need to fan SC really? about once a day
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cronicr



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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370362 - 01/04/14 09:24 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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the fan is after every mist to promote evaportion off the mist you just gave and get the humid stalish air out
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TheLoopIs

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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: cronicr]
#19370374 - 01/04/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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WOWWWWW. Maybe this is where I fucked up big time:0 Going to try that from now on...should have hope for how many more days u think until I can throw them away to make room for next batch?
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cronicr



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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370382 - 01/04/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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if they don't contam just leave them in there
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TheLoopIs

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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370389 - 01/04/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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wait not seeing condensation is a good or bad sign? I was lurking in ur gallery cronicr and some of ur FC have loads of condensation and are still fruiting beautifully?
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TheLoopIs

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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370395 - 01/04/14 09:31 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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I literally don't see how these could fruit... there has been no new growth for weeks
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cronicr



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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: TheLoopIs]
#19370399 - 01/04/14 09:32 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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none are sgfc's, sgfc's shouldn't have any, they get constant fae
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elasticaltiger
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: cronicr]
#19370434 - 01/04/14 09:40 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Fanning promotes evaporation off the substrate which is one of the main pinning triggers.
You're setup is holding humidity great because you don't have enough perlite in there to create a dynamic air flow. The air is stale and stagnant. Those rocks aren't really doing anything. You should have them in a larger chamber with 5 inches of sifted, wet perlite. The chamber I've just described actually creates it's own air flow where as the setup you have now is at the mercy of the natural air currents in the room. Your light should be fine as long as it's a bulb in the 6500K spectrum (the bulb package usually says 'daylight' on it)
You need to create a proper SGFC and then mist and fan as needed.
Fresh air and evaporation of moisture off the cakes are the number one pinning triggers.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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tripdawg420
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19370679 - 01/04/14 10:56 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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5 weeks i would say there contamed
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MudaFuka
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: tripdawg420]
#19370713 - 01/04/14 11:11 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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evaporation and fresh air are big pinning triggers. Give them more FAE and give it some time if nothing has happened after a week or so then you might consider throwing in the towel. At least try it before you give up completely.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: tripdawg420]
#19370726 - 01/04/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: 5 weeks i would say there contamed 
I tend to agree but I'm the kind of guy that doesn't like to throw shit away on assumption.
He's seen no new growth and that's not good.
But I feel like he should have seen SOMETHING from the cakes if they were contaminated. A bad smell, bubbles oozing, aerial mycelium growth just... anything.
Could just be stalled myc I guess but I really don't have enough experience to say Regardless, either right now or on your next grow, change up the chamber, the environment you have created is not ideal.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: MudaFuka]
#19370728 - 01/04/14 11:16 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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MudaFuka said: evaporation and fresh air are big pinning triggers. Give them more FAE and give it some time if nothing has happened after a week or so then you might consider throwing in the towel. At least try it before you give up completely.
That's the attitude! You gotta cut me Mick! Cut me!
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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tripdawg420
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Re: SHROOMS WONT FRUIT! Is this a suitable lamp? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19370739 - 01/04/14 11:19 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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right but if them cakes where healthy from the start ive seen some pretty bad fruiting chamber that have produced product
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