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blindingleaf
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just read entire thread, did not see what the casing mixture was...? mgmc or 50/50+ or...?
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Pastywhyte
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PP5 containers were just cased with some sifted potting soil and a little verm. Bulk effort was cased with some simple sterilized coir/verm, which is why I late cased it, still got a little too colonized, but is pinning all the same.
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blindingleaf
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so no ph modification with potting soil? just wondering because i just started doing some casings with peat/verm/hydrated lime, and may have upped ph too much. as for coir verm, was the sub also sterilized or was sub past. then late casing sterilized?
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The brand of soil I used already has the ph buffered some, so there was no need to buffer it further.
As for the bulk, the sub was sterilized as well as the casing. I am now a believer that coir and verm are invincible and that most contams that people get with them is more of a result of poor spawn rather than improperly pasteurized coir. Watch my faith come back and bite me in the ass for this grow
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::pasty turns around and sees green::
pasty: "did you see what GOD just did to us man!?!?!?"
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blindingleaf said: ::pasty turns around and sees green::
pasty: "did you see what GOD just did to us man!?!?!?"
God didn't do that to us man, you did! You fucking narcotics agent!
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Kazak]
#19369007 - 01/04/14 04:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol i was gonna put that too. glad u got the quote! all i can picture now are narcotic agents thinly coated with a layer of trich spores posing as hippies scoring shrooms haha.
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blindingleaf
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pasty...i have been having good results from pasteurizing my coir/verm/coffee for an hour at 170, if i do less it seems to contam, I'm wondering if sterilizing the coir/verm WITH coffee would be effective as well? i know what I'm doing tomorrow!
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i wouldn't, coffee is an open invitation to contams if your sterilizing then colonizing in open air
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Pastywhyte
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blindingleaf said: ::pasty turns around and sees green::
pasty: "did you see what GOD just did to us man!?!?!?"
God didn't do that to us man, you did! You fucking narcotics agent!
Plenty of vultures out here in the desert, they'll pick yer bones clean before morning-
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blindingleaf said: pasty...i have been having good results from pasteurizing my coir/verm/coffee for an hour at 170, if i do less it seems to contam, I'm wondering if sterilizing the coir/verm WITH coffee would be effective as well? i know what I'm doing tomorrow!
I would not sterilize with coffee in the sub, you would probably see a lot of green. Sterilization is only effective with coir and verm because spores cannot germinate on them. Spores however can easily germinate on coffee.
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Pastywhyte said: Bulk effort was cased with some simple sterilized coir/verm
I am conducting a test on this as well actually. Based on a quote from RR that spores will not germinate on coir but they will with peat. The location of my home has proven time and time again, that I am going to get trich. Everything I have done since the spring was cased with peat/verm and properly pasteurized....always had trich near the end of the second flush. I have gone through great efforts to identify the issue, even total changes of cultures.
If what RR is saying is true, and it usually is....Coir would be a better alternative to me.
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Pastywhyte said: Plenty of vultures out here in the desert, they'll pick yer bones clean before morning-
"We're right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo! And somebody's giving booze to these goddamn things!"
Hunter Thompson later updated us about the lizards. Apparently lizard excrement does not even cause contamination to coir...or so he said.
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sololas
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This thread has it all a soap opera in the makings with all the drama one could expect, and some good info if you take time to read through it all. Still enjoyable filled with jealousy, green narco agents and he said she said bs. I got alot more than I bargined for with this one.
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: sololas]
#19369183 - 01/04/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
#19369365 - 01/04/14 05:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay so I got some pics for the masses Got some good pins popping up in one of the PP5's and some nice primordia showing in a few others. Really wants to work near the edges, hopefully the middle fills in.

Monotub is looking pretty good in spite of the casing getting a little overcolonized Some nice little pins starting to pop up all over.
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blindingleaf
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cronicr said: i wouldn't, coffee is an open invitation to contams if your sterilizing then colonizing in open air
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I would not sterilize with coffee in the sub, you would probably see a lot of green. Sterilization is only effective with coir and verm because spores cannot germinate on them. Spores however can easily germinate on coffee.
heard. gonna stick to 170 degrees for anything with coffee then, just was wondering
pasty...i may have asked u this in another one of ur threads if that is the same mini mono, but do u have top holes at all? how many qts is it and how deep was ur sub?
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Pastywhyte
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This is again a departure from standard bulk teks with a hybrid monotub. Just happened to be the one tub not in use that was a proper size for the amount of sub I needed. Is a 30 quart mono with 4 holes at the sub level and then a series of 1/4" holes drilled at the top on the short sides. Needs to be cased for best results but delivers good FAE.
I will for sure need to run another side by side of these with a very standardized mono, and V tek followed to the letter, including LED, Ferts, disco balls, and if Violet lets me see the best chamber for these, maybe one of those to.
This experiment has become less of V tek meets bulk, and more of PW's way of doing bulk vs trying to make V tek work in his house in the winter
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sounds more like pasty vs the v-tek lol
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Good stuff man, now this is info we can use in everyday grows for the normal joe in their small areas. Coir seems to be becoming a goto bulk. Thanks for puttin up with the crappola and seeing this all the way thru..
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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: sololas]
#19369452 - 01/04/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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no problem ...oh wait your talking to pasty aren't you?
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blindingleaf
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Pastywhyte said: This is again a departure from standard bulk teks with a hybrid monotub. Just happened to be the one tub not in use that was a proper size for the amount of sub I needed. Is a 30 quart mono with 4 holes at the sub level and then a series of 1/4" holes drilled at the top on the short sides. Needs to be cased for best results but delivers good FAE.
word. yea i did ask the same thing before in an earlier thread of ur, because u pm'd me a pic of it. i might wanna try it because like i said I'm just getting into casings. the holes on top, if i remember right, were they pyramid like? how large are the bottom holes? only asking cause I'm about to spawn 2 qts to 4 qts coir/verm/coffee in a 27 qt standard hole mono but last time it did not stay humid enough, and i think its cause the holes are too big (1 7/8") for the depth of the sub (2.5 ") so i may just keep tape on 2 of the bottom holes.
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