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InvisibleDebuteMachine

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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: gman7104]
    #19370152 - 01/04/14 08:18 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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gman7104 said:
glad to hear your experience wasn't tragic. Many people get permanent brain damage from spice, permanent headaches and whatnot. Some people die.




Sigh. The original compounds were next to harmless, then they were outlawed NOT by the people mind you, by the DEA. that's when things started to get dangerous.

fucking faggots. :crankey:


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Offlineblackwidow187
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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19370187 - 01/04/14 08:33 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I need to move to germany for that health care! I'm broke, my health is FUCKED, and the cheapest obama care programs won't cover all the specialist and testing I'm suppose to be doing.


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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #19370618 - 01/04/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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Evil Punkster said:
To be honest, I kinda like the ability of turning on music "in my head" when I want to. I guess it counts as HPPD but doesn't really bother me. But I don't have any frightening or paranoid hallucinations tho.





I'm pretty sure that everyone has music in their head...


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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19370667 - 01/04/14 10:54 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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DebuteMachine said:
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gman7104 said:
glad to hear your experience wasn't tragic. Many people get permanent brain damage from spice, permanent headaches and whatnot. Some people die.




Sigh. The original compounds were next to harmless, then they were outlawed NOT by the people mind you, by the DEA. that's when things started to get dangerous.

fucking faggots. :crankey:



Where are you getting your information that they were next to harmless?


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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #19370699 - 01/04/14 11:05 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

How do you conclude that the abscesses are caused by spice? I've had things like that throughout my whole life. I had some big bumps on my inner thighs when I was in my late teens and my 20's. They went away but if I feel around I can still find the scars. I had an abscess in my ass hole that turned into an anal fistula (google it) and required surgery. All this before Spice existed (I tried it a year or two ago and hated it). I have a little bump on my back that's been there for 15 years. I even have a referral form that my doctor wrote out for going to a dermatologist - I keep putting it off because I hate going under the knife. My wife hates it!

People get these things all the time - I wouldn't be so quick to attribute it to any single thing.

(I'm not sticking up for spice, I think it's evil and one of the worst things you can do)


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InvisibleDebuteMachine

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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: Universe]
    #19370817 - 01/04/14 11:42 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

taph. research jwh-018 its a chemically inert compound. it can make you sick to you stomach.

also a REAL and LEGIT point: no one KNOWS if they are harmful or not, because the DEA made them illegal in fear they *MIGHT* be harmful.

so no one fucking knows, but i can tell you from experience that shit was harmless. i speak only for jwh-018.


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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: marsbandit]
    #19371568 - 01/05/14 07:01 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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marsbandit said:
anything where solvents where used in the making honestly makes me a little nervous. dont like synthetic stuff, it seems like yeah sure, the high has a lot of punch and it makes you see some great mathematics and shit, but i find i a bit of paranoia. when i feel safer i know i have a better time. would like to transition more into shrooms now but theyre hard to get a hold of. or i just dont know the right people. someone gave me this garbage they got under a counter at a sex shop and its just herbs dipped in different shit, all legal here but man i say make that crap illegal and make good old fashioned outdoor green legal here. with the synthetics the people making it need to constantly change the formula and it gets more and more bastardised as the laws change. not a fan. australia is a goddamn kindergarten with its laws anyway. IMHO, you cant beat lucy on a blotter haha




Hey I have to say something. I understand where you're coming from and you're right about certain synthetics being dangerous, but solvents aren't if properly used. When I say that, I mean they have to be given enough time to evaporate (they always evaporate) and they must not have any impurities in the first place.


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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19371760 - 01/05/14 08:22 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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Didn't you mention you are a heroine addict as well?




I never took heroin. See my signature.

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but theyre hard to get a hold of. or i just dont know the right people.




They're available over the internet very easily if you search for it. I don't know if I'm allowed to post URLs tho.

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And I'd like to point out that I didn't have a single bad trip out of about 300 synthetic cannabinoid trips. People call me mad because they don't understand why I like this stuff. I read bad trip reports all over the internet where people describe effects that *I* truly desire!


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  • Mushrooms :heart:, LSA, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, 25i-NBOMe, 2C-C, 2C-P :heart:
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Re: My long term effects of synthetic cannabinoid use [Re: Evil Punkster]
    #19371982 - 01/05/14 09:39 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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How do you conclude that the abscesses are caused by spice?




Like I said, I never had them before and since my spice abuse I had 5 of them. And I didn't change anything else health related in my life such as medications or food.

I'm not saying it's definitely caused by spice. That's what long term studies are about. If there are enough people claiming to have a) used spice and b) have abscesses, it's likely that spice is the cause.

But well, we will never know...

I also wonder why spice was invented in 2009 while the chemicals were first synthesized in the 70's. It's a big market and no-one had the idea before 2009, that's kinda odd.


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  • Weed, Spice (JWH-210 :heart:, JWH-250, UR-144), AKB-48, AM-2201,
  • Mushrooms :heart:, LSA, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, 25i-NBOMe, 2C-C, 2C-P :heart:
  • 5-MeO-DMT :heart:, N2O, DXM :thumbdown:, 3-MeO-PCP, 2-MeO-Ketamine, Salvia
  • 4-FA, Ethylphenidate :heart:


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