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    #19368897 - 01/04/14 03:43 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Hello everyone,

So I've just harvested what has turned out to be a disappointing grow. My photos say it all...

I inoculated my jars on the 11th Nov, I birthed them on the 14th December. One cake has produced four mushrooms, but more on the way.

I've never picked wild mushroom but these smell different from the ones I eat for breakfast. When I cut the stalks they were blue inside. Should I eat these? maybe I should cut the cap in half?

Is there something wrong with my setup? BR Tek, SGFC, perlite etc etc. I was going to post this in the contam thread but I would GREATLY appreciate any help with the overall disaster of this grow so I don't make the same mistake again.

Thank you, Ferrero



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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
    #19368917 - 01/04/14 03:48 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I think they look healthy, but dont take my words for it, I am only 99% sure
your cake is bruised/not healthy, so shrooms are not too healthy too, but doesnt look contamed

fruit bodies look very healthy outside

do they smell bad? always go by sight and nose, dont eat badly smelling shrooms

blue shrooms are usually a sign they are potent, when they blue a lot
maybe they will be insanely potent ;-)

before eating:
if you are in doubt, you can slice the cake over in the middle with a knife
it will still continue birthing... then you can spot visually for contams inside cake

usually blueing is just due to rough handling/not enough gas exchange in jars or too little air in FC
humidity looks right


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19368921 - 01/04/14 03:50 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

your fruits are fine it's just bruising, your cake looks sad though:frown: give it a good dunk


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
    #19368931 - 01/04/14 03:52 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

hmm... why are all those newbies to pftek using coarse verm nowadays?

I thought fine verm was what should be used
coarse could give you problems maybe...


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19368939 - 01/04/14 03:53 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

course is one of his issues for sure


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
    #19368999 - 01/04/14 04:08 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Idk about other countries but in Australia I went to 5 different garden/hardware stores and they all only had one grade of verm :frown: But it's quite easy to throw in the blender (food processor) and get really good verm for dunking. I just wish I'd thought of that BEFORE I got to rolling my last cake :facepalm:


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19369036 - 01/04/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Your cakes do look dry.If you can't find fine verm at a local store order on ebay. I had trouble finding some myself. just shop around and find free shipping. I keep a few extra bags on hand.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19369061 - 01/04/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Great, thanks!

The coarse verm was a mistake, damn amazon descriptions! I'll try your idea Buddha, and throw the bag of verm in the blender.

But thanks for the advice, I wasn't expecting the shrooms to be blue inside. White yes, but blue?

ferrero


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19369112 - 01/04/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

mio said:
before eating:
if you are in doubt, you can slice the cake over in the middle with a knife
it will still continue birthing... then you can spot visually for contams inside cake
humidity looks right




I just cut the cake in half and it looks good! But yes, it was very dry.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
    #19369124 - 01/04/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

:homerdoh3::huxleyfacepalm::dudewtf:


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
    #19369148 - 01/04/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

:thataintright::ilold::sunspots:


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: Josh.0]
    #19369166 - 01/04/14 04:44 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

sorry for not catching that earlier op, i would have told you not to judo chop your cake lol


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
    #19369216 - 01/04/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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Josh.0 said:
:thataintright:



I love your avatar's shoes Josh.0....I just wanted to remind you.



Quote:

ferrero said:

I just cut the cake in half



I would highly advise against that.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19369218 - 01/04/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

All cubes bruise blue when the cell walls rupture they oxidize.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #19369252 - 01/04/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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All cubes bruise blue when the cell walls rupture they oxidize.




That's actually only a theory there is nothing that proves this statement true. Someone else can do the quotes for my proof.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: magickspore]
    #19369364 - 01/04/14 05:29 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #19369494 - 01/04/14 05:58 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

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Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.




I agree I like it too its easy to comprehend and explain, but the fact that there is some NON active species that bruise blue just makes you wonder what's really going on inside of those lil guys.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #19369540 - 01/04/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.



There are some cubes that do not bruise at all, yet they are potent.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: PussyFart]
    #19369626 - 01/04/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

Notahacker420 said:
Quote:

T-Funkadellic said:
Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.



There are some cubes that do not bruise at all, yet they are potent.




Lol didn't know that. thank you.


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
    #19369657 - 01/04/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

ferrero said:
Quote:

mio said:
before eating:
if you are in doubt, you can slice the cake over in the middle with a knife
it will still continue birthing... then you can spot visually for contams inside cake
humidity looks right




I just cut the cake in half and it looks good! But yes, it was very dry.




fine verm !

I personally recommend pfjars with just 1 innoc hole in the center, no need for 4 holes IMO
less innocs, less work
having a few jars with 4 holes makes testing new syringes easier... so you can innoc against the sides

for filter, add 1 screwdriver hole to the right of the center hole
sponges often work fine as gas exchange filter, those used for cleaning
no probs with those on 20-30 jars so far

the verm is the filter, and you put alufoil over the jars when PCing anyway

if you want you can use micropore tape too as filter... just make sure it doesnt get wet
wet filters are a recipe for contams

the above works great, the jars get gas exchange fine , grow super fast, never blue

what is better than pfjars?
tall drinking glasses!, but only if you use LC with them, or they pin early often
with LC you can colonize them super fast without early pinning usually
double sized cakes, double yield, growth is fast with LC

easier to innoc too... 2 layers of alufoil on top, take one off and innoc 4 places, put back on losely
easier to prepare too
more yield with less work, I like that size jars, but it is really only good with LC IMO, with normal syringes they take a month to colonize or such
has worked with normal syringes for me too, just a small amount of early pinning, still yielded good


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19369692 - 01/04/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

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I personally recommend pfjars with just 1 innoc hole in the center, no need for 4 holes IMO
less innocs, less work




less work for you 4 times the work for your myc, and as for a sponge for a filter:crazy:


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
    #19369739 - 01/04/14 06:45 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I like to experiment, it is experimental, only try if you can afford it

everybody makes their own pfjars, and I have only had success with it so far

you forgot to quote next line, the idea was that if you use LC you really only need to innoc once
it will grow fast still
few weeks - maybe 3 weeks, I dont need my jars that fast anyway

you can innoc 4 places too, that is just extra work
and more possibility for contam, with 1 innoc there is less risk of contam

but of course success rate with pfjars is like 99% anyway

if I wasnt using LCs, I would definitely be using 4 holes, or colonization would be terribly slow

with LC it seems fast enough for me if I use 1 innoc or 4 innocs, doesnt matter to me
only use 4 innocs for testing syringes... else I always innoc in the center

I like to save working time, then just place on shelf

I like those sponges better than micropore tape, have only had success with them, even with reuse each time
(cut out with scissor into squares and fit into the hole)
but I do all innocs in a SAB


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19369761 - 01/04/14 06:51 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

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you forgot to quote next line,



i didn't forget nuthing, you just went back and made an edit lol


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
    #19369827 - 01/04/14 07:05 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

:-)

anyway, OP, I like tall drinking glasses for pftek, they rock
double sized cakes, I think I would use them even if I had only spore syringes
that worked fine last, even though a little early pinning

but with LC they are even better

drinking glasses beat my homemade jars, and they colonize very fast with LC if using enough LC

Im sure there must be some mention of them on this site, some prefer them, some dislike them
in the end it is up to you if you want to try

I like them for normal innocs, and normal pfjars for testing syringes


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19369830 - 01/04/14 07:05 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
    #19369950 - 01/04/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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mio said:
anyway, OP, I like tall drinking glasses for pftek, they rock



If by "they rock" you mean they have a tendency of stalling because of gravity compacting the substrate, then I have to agree.

The short half pints are recommended for a reason......taller jars/glasses tend to stall.

Also, if the tall ones fully colonize, there is a possibility of getting nothing but bottom fruits, because gravity has sucked all the moisture to the bottom of the cakes.....


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