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ferrero
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Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but...
#19368897 - 01/04/14 03:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello everyone,
So I've just harvested what has turned out to be a disappointing grow. My photos say it all...
I inoculated my jars on the 11th Nov, I birthed them on the 14th December. One cake has produced four mushrooms, but more on the way.
I've never picked wild mushroom but these smell different from the ones I eat for breakfast. When I cut the stalks they were blue inside. Should I eat these? maybe I should cut the cap in half?
Is there something wrong with my setup? BR Tek, SGFC, perlite etc etc. I was going to post this in the contam thread but I would GREATLY appreciate any help with the overall disaster of this grow so I don't make the same mistake again.
Thank you, Ferrero
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lessismore
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
#19368917 - 01/04/14 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think they look healthy, but dont take my words for it, I am only 99% sure your cake is bruised/not healthy, so shrooms are not too healthy too, but doesnt look contamed
fruit bodies look very healthy outside
do they smell bad? always go by sight and nose, dont eat badly smelling shrooms
blue shrooms are usually a sign they are potent, when they blue a lot maybe they will be insanely potent ;-)
before eating: if you are in doubt, you can slice the cake over in the middle with a knife it will still continue birthing... then you can spot visually for contams inside cake
usually blueing is just due to rough handling/not enough gas exchange in jars or too little air in FC humidity looks right
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
#19368921 - 01/04/14 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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your fruits are fine it's just bruising, your cake looks sad though give it a good dunk
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lessismore
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
#19368931 - 01/04/14 03:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm... why are all those newbies to pftek using coarse verm nowadays?
I thought fine verm was what should be used coarse could give you problems maybe...
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cronicr



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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
#19368939 - 01/04/14 03:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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course is one of his issues for sure
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FunkyBuddha
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
#19368999 - 01/04/14 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk about other countries but in Australia I went to 5 different garden/hardware stores and they all only had one grade of verm But it's quite easy to throw in the blender (food processor) and get really good verm for dunking. I just wish I'd thought of that BEFORE I got to rolling my last cake
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19369036 - 01/04/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your cakes do look dry.If you can't find fine verm at a local store order on ebay. I had trouble finding some myself. just shop around and find free shipping. I keep a few extra bags on hand.
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ferrero
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19369061 - 01/04/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great, thanks!
The coarse verm was a mistake, damn amazon descriptions! I'll try your idea Buddha, and throw the bag of verm in the blender.
But thanks for the advice, I wasn't expecting the shrooms to be blue inside. White yes, but blue?
ferrero
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ferrero
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: lessismore]
#19369112 - 01/04/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mio said: before eating: if you are in doubt, you can slice the cake over in the middle with a knife it will still continue birthing... then you can spot visually for contams inside cake humidity looks right
I just cut the cake in half and it looks good! But yes, it was very dry.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
#19369124 - 01/04/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: cronicr]
#19369148 - 01/04/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: Josh.0]
#19369166 - 01/04/14 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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sorry for not catching that earlier op, i would have told you not to judo chop your cake lol
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
#19369216 - 01/04/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josh.0 said:

I love your avatar's shoes Josh.0....I just wanted to remind you.
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ferrero said:
I just cut the cake in half
I would highly advise against that.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19369218 - 01/04/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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All cubes bruise blue when the cell walls rupture they oxidize.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#19369252 - 01/04/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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T-Funkadellic said: All cubes bruise blue when the cell walls rupture they oxidize.
That's actually only a theory there is nothing that proves this statement true. Someone else can do the quotes for my proof.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: magickspore]
#19369364 - 01/04/14 05:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#19369494 - 01/04/14 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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T-Funkadellic said: Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.
I agree I like it too its easy to comprehend and explain, but the fact that there is some NON active species that bruise blue just makes you wonder what's really going on inside of those lil guys.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#19369540 - 01/04/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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T-Funkadellic said: Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.
There are some cubes that do not bruise at all, yet they are potent.
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: PussyFart]
#19369626 - 01/04/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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T-Funkadellic said: Good theory every race of cubes Ive grown over the years bruise blue.
There are some cubes that do not bruise at all, yet they are potent.
Lol didn't know that. thank you.
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lessismore
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Re: Just about to enjoy my shrooms, but... [Re: ferrero]
#19369657 - 01/04/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrero said:
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mio said: before eating: if you are in doubt, you can slice the cake over in the middle with a knife it will still continue birthing... then you can spot visually for contams inside cake humidity looks right
I just cut the cake in half and it looks good! But yes, it was very dry.
fine verm !
I personally recommend pfjars with just 1 innoc hole in the center, no need for 4 holes IMO less innocs, less work having a few jars with 4 holes makes testing new syringes easier... so you can innoc against the sides
for filter, add 1 screwdriver hole to the right of the center hole sponges often work fine as gas exchange filter, those used for cleaning no probs with those on 20-30 jars so far
the verm is the filter, and you put alufoil over the jars when PCing anyway
if you want you can use micropore tape too as filter... just make sure it doesnt get wet wet filters are a recipe for contams
the above works great, the jars get gas exchange fine , grow super fast, never blue
what is better than pfjars? tall drinking glasses!, but only if you use LC with them, or they pin early often with LC you can colonize them super fast without early pinning usually double sized cakes, double yield, growth is fast with LC
easier to innoc too... 2 layers of alufoil on top, take one off and innoc 4 places, put back on losely easier to prepare too more yield with less work, I like that size jars, but it is really only good with LC IMO, with normal syringes they take a month to colonize or such has worked with normal syringes for me too, just a small amount of early pinning, still yielded good
Edited by lessismore (01/04/14 06:40 PM)
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