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nn-IlliniSpiralDMT
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So just a throwback, when I was younger I used to trip a LOT. On all sorts of things, and I always remember the time I lost my marbles on 2 grams of mushrooms. And I mean a level 5 trip, it was as close to DMT as I have ever gotten to besides the real deal. I was with two buds and I remember how freaked they looked when I was rambling things such as
"We dont need water!" mumble mumble "They are out there! Somewhere!" mumble mumble mumble
Anyway I've been cultivating numerous strains of mushrooms for a couple years now, from oysters, to buttons, to good ol cubes. And I would grow cubes more but I never got that desired monoculture that had a great yield and great potency. So my question is this, how many dry grams do you guys have to consume of your top culture to get trippy visuals? I have had and still have cultures that produce nice even pinsets with weights over 11oz. But I have never acheived anything like the floods of mushrooms I used to pick up in highscool. I tried almost every "strain" of cubes except Texas, African, and PE(just off the top of my head)
So a question for the community, what is your top strain? What is your top monoculture like? What are it's usual weights and how much do you have to consume to trip BALLS(level 4 and up)? And how long did it take you? How many countless transfers?
Can you leave your tub completely neglected and still have potent babies? Is it a combination of good genetics and proper maintenance?
Here is my best MONOculture(although I think it is not a true culture but variance is slight)
Have not grown cubes in awhile but If I remember it used to take roughly 7grams to feel like an eight... But the weight was crazy, honest 11-12 ounces of dense 6-8" fruits. GT was the strain
Discuss, I am looking forward to a good community chat
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cronicr



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skip cubes and drop 5 grams of cyans i made that mistake once, never knew the potency difference lol
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"Monoculture is the agricultural practice of producing or growing a single crop or plant species over a wide area and for a large number of consecutive years." - wikipedia
Every batch of shrooms you grow, whatever they are, if they are one species on a single substrate, they are a monoculture (or as close as you'll get).
I'm assuming you mean an isolate? As in a single set of genetics with optimal potency and yield within your monoculture of say P. cubensis?
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Edited by urthtown (01/04/14 02:09 PM)
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nn-IlliniSpiralDMT
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cronicr said: skip cubes and drop 5 grams of cyans i made that mistake once, never knew the potency difference lol
I would if I could get a print, my vendor has been out of exotics for a very long time.
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bodhisatta 
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I've never had a "level 5 trip" after reading some people trip reports. I have took dmt and acid before and those were like level 5 trips every single time I took them no matter how little I took be it 30mg of dmt or one 'supposedly' 150-300mcg tab of acid. I've also had acid that was fake and did nothing or made me feel like shit so I'm assuming it wasn't real acid.
As far as shrooms go though I've done a half ounce dry eaten 3 times B+ AA+ and GT and never had a "level 5" I've done 5 grams of creeper which is the most I've done of that "variety" and still no level 5 trip. I'll have open eye visuals most of the time on 5+, always have closed eye visuals even on an an eight.
 cubes are fun, tripping is fun, but it's not some enlightenment ceremony for me
Also in mycology monoculture means different than it does for farming crops on a field(PS wiki ). Here most of us use monoculture and isolate interchangeably despite it perhaps not being the best practice.
I would love some pans spores I want to eat 5g of those.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/04/14 02:14 PM)
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nn-IlliniSpiralDMT
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urthtown said: "Monoculture is the agricultural practice of producing or growing a single crop or plant species over a wide area and for a large number of consecutive years." - wikipedia
Every batch of shrooms you grow, whatever they are, if they are one species on a single substrate, they are a monoculture (or as close as you'll get).
I'm assuming you mean an isolate? As in a single set of genetics with optimal potency and yield within your monoculture of say P. cubensis?
I could be wrong lol but I think you are wrong, a monoculture would be two sets of mates combining to create a set of mycelia networks that are all the same. Again I could be wrong but I am pretty sure if you shoot up a jar with MS, it is not going to be one mono, it's going to be dozens of different genetics, if not hundreds. But yes an isolate, but even an isolate can have different cultures within it. Its when you get nice even growth of the networks in which you have a mono-culture on your isolate.
I could be wrong and I'm sure someone here will come and correct me. Either way let's talk about the topic...
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try market place, i heard that Africans with right genetics can be very potent and PE Mutant Blobs are AWESOME i had 1 dry gram totally got destroyed that day
will get back to on on the africans put some on agar a week ago
Edited by alabamamushie (01/04/14 02:19 PM)
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cronicr



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nn-IlliniSpiralDMT said:
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urthtown said: "Monoculture is the agricultural practice of producing or growing a single crop or plant species over a wide area and for a large number of consecutive years." - wikipedia
Every batch of shrooms you grow, whatever they are, if they are one species on a single substrate, they are a monoculture (or as close as you'll get).
I'm assuming you mean an isolate? As in a single set of genetics with optimal potency and yield within your monoculture of say P. cubensis?
I could be wrong lol but I think you are wrong, a monoculture would be two sets of mates combining to create a set of mycelia networks that are all the same. Again I could be wrong but I am pretty sure if you shoot up a jar with MS, it is not going to be one mono, it's going to be dozens of different genetics, if not hundreds. But yes an isolate, but even an isolate can have different cultures within it. Its when you get nice even growth of the networks in which you have a mono-culture on your isolate.
I could be wrong and I'm sure someone here will come and correct me. Either way let's talk about the topic...
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RogerRabbit said: After you isolate a killer strain, you save and grow that strain in perpetuity. Most growers rarely go back to spores once they learn agar work.
If a cloned tissue is a monoculture on agar, then it's an isolate. When you see sectoring on an agar plate, they're similar strains and functioning as a coherent whole, but also keeping separate genetics. It's wild how mycelium does that. They don't seem to fight or compete, but simply keep their multiple genetics. Perhaps the mycelium has evolved a built in defense mechanism to prevent inbreeding too much. RR
Anyways, I'm waiting on some APE to germinate so hopefully I'll have an extra potent variety of cubes
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cronicr



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mine germinated nicely i just snipped the tip of the swab off right on my plate though but won't potency very even in isolates?
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bodhisatta 
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cronicr said: mine germinated nicely i just snipped the tip of the swab off right on my plate though but won't potency very even in isolates?
who knows I just grow them and eat them, the strain, variety talk is all like blah blah to me, until someone figures it out with science I guess it's all speculation.
I swabbed all mine on the 22nd. I made some more a few days ago too. Perhaps I should put the swab right to agar.
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My APE were utter madness, all from MS so far. Got some clones pinning right now so I will see how potency on those bad boys plays out. Got a master from ms colonizing right now as well. Only had the cyans once but my APE were very close in potency to them
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bodhisatta said: I've never had a "level 5 trip" after reading some people trip reports. I have took dmt and acid before and those were like level 5 trips every single time I took them no matter how little I took be it 30mg of dmt or one 'supposedly' 150-300mcg tab of acid. I've also had acid that was fake and did nothing or made me feel like shit so I'm assuming it wasn't real acid.
As far as shrooms go though I've done a half ounce dry eaten 3 times B+ AA+ and GT and never had a "level 5" I've done 5 grams of creeper which is the most I've done of that "variety" and still no level 5 trip. I'll have open eye visuals most of the time on 5+, always have closed eye visuals even on an an eight.
 cubes are fun, tripping is fun, but it's not some enlightenment ceremony for me
Also in mycology monoculture means different than it does for farming crops on a field(PS wiki ). Here most of us use monoculture and isolate interchangeably despite it perhaps not being the best practice.
I would love some pans spores I want to eat 5g of those.
Believe me, after DMT I do not want to trip for a VERY VERY long time. But I wish I could give the world what I used to take in highscool...
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bodhisatta 
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DMT is some crazy shit. One time this guy sent me changa made with DMT and MAOI herbs, I took a huge bowl of it down a dry bong. I though I was going to die of a heart attack, I couldn't move for 15m Literally couldn't move and had a hard time for 15 more after that until it abruptly stopped making me trip, I couldn't see anything at all except the tripping happening, It wasn't even the room starting to get trippy I was completely inside of my head, I have never perceived such a loud noise before but that was all in my head too, It was near deafening. So fuck changa
Oh and I nearly destroyed the bong since I couldn't put it down. I was already tripping while I was taking the hit.
So anyway does any one have some MHRB they would like to trade?
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/04/14 02:45 PM)
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Pastywhyte said: My APE were utter madness, all from MS so far. Got some clones pinning right now so I will see how potency on those bad boys plays out. Got a master from ms colonizing right now as well. Only had the cyans once but my APE were very close in potency to them 
How about a trade? I would love to acquire some albino penis envy prints!
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I WOULD KILL FOR SOME PRINTS! but only cause i only see swabs
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nn-IlliniSpiralDMT
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bodhisatta said: DMT is some crazy shit. One time this guy sent me changa made with DMT and MAOI herbs, I took a huge bowl of it down a dry bong. I though I was going to die of a heart attack, I couldn't move for 15m Literally couldn't move and had a hard time for 15 more after that until it abruptly stopped making me trip, I couldn't see anything at all except the tripping happening, It wasn't even the room starting to get trippy I was completely inside of my head, I have never perceived such a loud noise before but that was all in my head too, It was near deafening. So fuck changa
Oh and I nearly destroyed the bong since I couldn't put it down. I was already tripping while I was taking the hit.
So anyway does any one have some MHRB they would like to trade?
I have around 200 grams of MHRB just sitting in shoe box? PM for things you would like to trade for it
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nn-IlliniSpiralDMT said: How about a trade? I would love to acquire some albino penis envy prints!
Haven't made any swabs yet, but I am gonna try with the grow I'm doing currently.
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