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art2312
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first microscope!!!!!!!!!
#19367679 - 01/04/14 11:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey everyone!! So my first microscope finally came today!!!!!! But I have a couple questions that the manual didn't answer....the box says "40x-640x Magnification" will this be good enough for now? I'm not quite sure what that means exactly. And also, could someone point me in the direction of a good myco microscope site please? I have some Gymns and Amanita I would love to look at! Thanks for any advice!!!!
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Byrain

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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19367693 - 01/04/14 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You will need 1000x unfortunately...
Also, reading this book will help even if its old.
http://www.amazon.com/How-Identify-Mushrooms-Genus-III/dp/0916422097
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art2312
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: Byrain]
#19367714 - 01/04/14 11:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh no......and there goes my great day... well thank you Byrain, for the horrible news and helpfulness lol
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The Lightning
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19367763 - 01/04/14 11:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What objectives came with your 'scope?
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art2312
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Brine, yeast, onion bulb, hydria verticllata and stoma...the latter three are prepared slides....
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19367820 - 01/04/14 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool. As for the microscope's hardware, what objectives came with it?
Maybe you could post some pics of it?
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art2312
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Sorry...I've already packed it back up to send back. But it came with some cool stuff...specimen slicer, plastic tweezers, magnifying glass, and a few other things. I'm going to call the schools in my area Monday and see if I can't scrounge up a real scope. I had my hopes up so much for this... ill get it though.
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Byrain

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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368006 - 01/04/14 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ask Alan, he always seems to know which ones are good buys currently. Do you have a link where you got your scope so we can see what it is better?
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Joust
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368009 - 01/04/14 12:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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800x will work fine.
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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Byrain

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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: Joust]
#19368029 - 01/04/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even for the minute spore ornamentation on something like Peziza arvernensis?
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art2312
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: Byrain]
#19368071 - 01/04/14 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful The only thing you really know about me is.....That's all you'll ever know!!!!
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Byrain

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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368089 - 01/04/14 12:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea, you really will have more fun with a real scope. 
That might be fine for plant cells though...
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: Byrain]
#19368161 - 01/04/14 01:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Byrain said: Even for the minute spore ornamentation on something like Peziza arvernensis?
Comon Byrain, its his first scope, I dont think he will be doing crazy microscopy to start. I got my first scope it went 600x. it worked well for general features and looking at spores. Then i got an 800x and i liked it, then i descided i wanted more and got the 200-2000x Omax that I use today. I want another, like a zeiss or something, someday in teh far future.. I recommend you Get a cheap scope, if you like it get a good one in time. Quote:
Byrain said: Yea, you really will have more fun with a real scope. 
That might be fine for plant cells though...
You will have fun with a real scope, but they tend to cost real moneies...
Im with you Byrain, you know i am. . Op should get a really nice expensive scope so he has to use it
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368205 - 01/04/14 01:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Art2312, take 5 minutes or a bit more and read the part in this link titled "Purchasing An Introductory Microscope".
I strongly believe that if you're going to make a purchase, you should have a camera/imager to share your photos.
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art2312
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Thank you guys for all your help! I guess I was too excited and didn't do my research first... live and learn! I like Joust's idea... maybe ill stop for a couple months and just use that money to get a really nice one that can't just sit around Joust, you said you started with a 600X, mine says "40X-640X" does that mean it magnifies between 40 times and 640 times? I tried looking at some Gymn spores but all I could see was a dark spot where the spores were...I didn't put a drop of water on it either tho...
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: Joust]
#19368331 - 01/04/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Joust said: Comon Byrain, its his first scope, I dont think he will be doing crazy microscopy to start. I got my first scope it went 600x. it worked well for general features and looking at spores. Then i got an 800x and i liked it, then i descided i wanted more and got the 200-2000x Omax that I use today. I want another, like a zeiss or something, someday in teh far future.. I recommend you Get a cheap scope, if you like it get a good one in time.
I'm still on my first scope, the important part is how you section the material not what scope you use. Though it was nice having a scope with kohler illumination and 1000x ootb to grow into, I paid ~$300 from an ebay seller. I didn't really know what I was looking for so I just went with something Alan recommended to someone else...
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368368 - 01/04/14 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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And thank you for that link Lightning. Now ill know what to look for. I appreciate that
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368382 - 01/04/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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art2312 said: And thank you for that link Lightning. Now ill know what to look for. I appreciate that 
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art2312
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312]
#19368398 - 01/04/14 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I should probably shoot for a 1,000X then, it sounds like... I'm moving to SC in March and the lady that is head of the Mycology society is a Mycologist at Clemson...maybe she could hook me up with a good scope...
-------------------- I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful The only thing you really know about me is.....That's all you'll ever know!!!!
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Re: first microscope!!!!!!!!! [Re: art2312] 1
#19370065 - 01/04/14 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The magnification does not matter much, what matters is that your scope has a 100x oil immersion objective. This separates toy scopes from useful ones.
Also you want binocular or trinocular, monocular scopes give a lot of people headaches.
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