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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: Spacerific]
    #19528469 - 02/06/14 12:24 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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I am with zappa on this one (Frank is the fucking man by the way :thumbup:)

First of all, this dude seems incredibly self absorbed. You don't speak out of opinion but as if this is some secret thing that only somebody as "brilliant, blessed and enlightened" as you is meant to know and preach. You speak about your death as if you are the worlds savior whom will be murdered, and we will be without our messiah from there on out.

Secondly, Capitalism isn't the issue here, in fact, our good buddy Obama has dismantled capitalism and took the pride out of being a hard working individual, so any of this conspiracy bullshit you're speaking about is unfolding just as this douche bag president is turning our Country from a Capitalist one to a socialist, soon to be communist one. So don't try to make Capitalism your little scapegoat, Socialism is a fucking disaster.

I personally don't care if I sound like an asshole, once you start speaking as if freeloading pieces of shit are the ones we need to look up to, you completely lost me. Typical though, you like to feel like you have no control over this happening, because God forbid you have to put effort into improving your own destiny, it's a lot easier just to refuse to contribute to society behind hollow claims of this illuminati-esque conspiracy of yours. For heavens sake though, please, do not speak like 95% of this idiotic generation and tell me you don't want to work because you "refuse to feed the capitalist machine", because you'd be full of shit. Those people don't work because they want and feel entitled to handouts and are too worthless and lazy to get off their fat ass and do a Goddamn thing about it.

Oh well, this became political, I couldn't help it.

By the way, just because you and your buddies took MIND ALTERING DRUGS and they saw you as Jesus doesn't mean a fucking thing man. I won't lie, I went through this foolish phase of believing I was in some way enlightened, never to the extent you are displaying, but still somewhat there. When I read that your friends saw you as Jesus and them as disciples, I cringed. What a fucking unbelievably big headed claim to make. So you believe all this hippy bull crap through psychedelics, yet your ego is larger than everybody on this forum combined. Those psychedelics have really done you well I see, keep using them to feed that ego of yours. Please my Lord, do not banish me to Hell for my words.






Hence why I said communism fascism "capitalism".

I share my perspective.  If you call it blessed and enlightened, more power to you.  I believe in myself and write what I believe.  It's up to you to believe in me or not.

It sort of ties in to the government watching me too, before I even figured shit out.  And the death threats.  Those played a large role.

I am completely open for potential that I am not the messiah.  Though I then ask, who is?  Someone must play the role.  It ain't lord Rayel.

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Greenterror dude, what you need to understand (once you're done with your Bambi FBI Mexican drug cartel delusions) is that the universe, EXACTLY as it is, is complete, perfect and functional. It works and always has and always will. All of it. You included.

The only struggle, frustration and misguided tendencies to change it comes from being confused about how it works. Money is camouflage, hypnosis used by the mighty, strong and able, to rule over the weak, stupid, misguided and unproductive. Same for other types of meaningless paper, like say, the US Constitution, or meaningless status symbols like the White House, Stars and Stripes, Pledge of Allegiance and all that crap. Nothing against US, all "countries" work like this. They're temporary human organizations, rough blueprints of what might work in terms of group behavior. In reality, the planet has always been and always will be in anarchy, much like the rest of the ecosystem. Within that anarchy, groups of primates get together, and try to survive and thrive as well as they can. There's no difference whatsoever in how wildlife is organized and how humans are organized. It's all similar, continuous and functional.

Whoever can display bewildering camouflage or convincing attributes and hypnotize or enlist the rest, gets the protein, sugar and/or mating opportunities at the end of the day. Within one's own species or without. Whoever can outrun, hide, protect through armor, impress, surprise, overwhelm, find safety in numbers or use some other type of effective means to outsmart and navigate the environment, will thrive, live to tell the tale, prosper enjoy and multiply.

There's a reason why you, OP, are sitting at a computer, have pretty much non-existent power in this reality, probably still have to rely on parents for food and shelter, and you dream of changing the world with some ludicrous means like the above mentioned conspiracy killing you, UFO's bringing you back to life and so on. Because for the most part you lack the ability to change anything in reality. You don't yet have the leadership power to gather enough peers around you, the shrewdness and skill to gather the resources (money or otherwise) to make any dent in anything, so that's why there are these ridiculous stories going through your head. Look at your success on the shroomery and you'll find it mirrors your success offline.

We could abolish money tomorrow, the nature of the universe will still remain exactly the same. There will always be camouflage, accurate senses and processing power that sees through it and also mindless prey that remains confounded. There will always be those who effectively create safety and power in numbers and have their way, and those who stay alone, cluelessly wishing and hoping, basically waiting to be pushed around or integrated into larger systems they were not smart enough to design and implement.

So far, judging by your posts, you're well within this later group. Enjoy your confusion and servitude, walk on the prescribed lines laid down by those stronger and more capable than you, and hope that one day you will awaken and get what's going on.

Look at ANY part of the ecosystem, you will see that all beings have means to thrive, IF they act according to their specific size and shape and strengths and weaknesses. Sloths don't rely on speed, cuttlefish don't rely on armor, birds don't rely on sheer mass. Once you understand where and what you are, specifically, you'll very much find ways to deal with your reality and thrive.

Starting point is no, talking about abolishing money here, on the shroomery, will do nothing. This is a shroom-related forum. We have no effect on fiat currency, nor are we that interested in taking on the powers that do. In theory you could learn about video editing and make another Zeitgeist-type call to action, but in practice you probably won't. I'd stick to guitar and take on some smaller goals than changing the economy on this planet. Try maybe attracting a female first and a solid group of non-nerdy friends. Just a thought.




Things may be perfect, though if violent leaders of our world have the right to impose their wishes on my will, then I will not release my right to impose my wishes of peace to the world.  Why can they indefinitely change things for the worse and I can't attempt to change things for the better?

Saying that we are in anarchy and always have been is very interesting.  I like the idea, but the fact that people still believe and submit to our hierarchical society means that mass people do not believe we operate in anarchy.  But I see what you're saying.

It's time to change the ecosystem to equality.  We could be progressing so much faster as one united species.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19528509 - 02/06/14 12:40 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Which leads to why we must abandon money to be truly free.  If people aren't thinking "what can I do to make the most money" they'll be thinking "what can I do to help the most people" and thus attain the must energy.

Positive energy is infinitely abundant and brings more happiness and power than any material good.  To remove money from society is to remove the tool that facilitates greed and would ultimately lead to a society of peace.

Karma would play it's role on a natural level and those that attempt to devoid others of their freedom would be devoided of their life.

Until the day we abandon our childish ways of greed and become a family, an elite group of oppressors will continue to exist at the top of the chain while imposing their will against your liberty for their gain.




im not gonna lie. He's totally right on this.  Money is a tool of enslavement.  Governments always fail, their doesn't have to be a forced government controlling us all the time.  We can obviously do with out it because they always become corrupt anyway. So how about we get rid of this corrupt government and try it with out one for a change.  Wait, because "money" give people a "purpose". Money is the root of all problems and always will be.

On the contrary, I don't know about all that other stuff..


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: tripp23]
    #19529154 - 02/06/14 06:48 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

A world with a messiah is what I consider to be a World of Evil.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #19529319 - 02/06/14 07:42 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Things may be perfect, though if violent leaders of our world have the right to impose their wishes on my will, then I will not release my right to impose my wishes of peace to the world.



You have the right to try whatever crazy stuff you want, it just seems to be VERY, VERY ineffective at this point. While these people command well organized armies (of soldiers and employees) that do their bidding, you command nothing. By the looks of it you have a pretty poor command even of yourself.

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Why can they indefinitely change things for the worse and I can't attempt to change things for the better?



You can attempt everything. It's just that they're effective and you aren't. For now at least. I point you at the Zeitgeist movement for example. I don't agree with it, but at least it got support effectively, compared to the effort initially put in. That was started by a fucking guy with an idea and some time to edit video. It can be done, but you have to understand how to do it, and then put in the effort to actually execute. While he had time to make impressive hour long videos, you have 5 minutes to write poorly thought out dubious posts.

That's the main difference, effectiveness. Ask yourself why people work 5 days a week for the status quo you dislike, and yet they refuse to work for you. IMO they do so because your advertising, or camouflage or propaganda, is completely ineffective. It doesn't look, sound or move well enough to impress anybody. Work on it.

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Saying that we are in anarchy and always have been is very interesting.  I like the idea, but the fact that people still believe and submit to our hierarchical society means that mass people do not believe we operate in anarchy.



Of course, because the state propaganda is effective. Back in the day people literally believed the words of the churches, medieval leaders and so on. They did it right so it worked for them. Learn how advertising, marketing, memes and information circulates around you. See how animals do it in the ecosystem. Working with sound, image, color, movement, signals. Your signals are simply ineffective by comparison at this point. You have a guitar for instance. When you have as much control over it as Hendrix had over his, you too will be able to move minds and hearts effectively. But not before.

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It's time to change the ecosystem to equality.  We could be progressing so much faster as one united species.



This right here shows me you don't get it at all. Look in nature. Where on the face of this blue planet do you see ANY equality? Look at monkeys, bacteria, plants, birds, anything. WHAT part of the ecosystem do you see being equal, unstructured and unmoved by constant competition? It's ludicrous. Expecting your betters to give you the time of day and resources to consume, before you've earned any of it. Insects dissatisfied with the fact they're food for birds and have to fly and hide to stay alive. Let's sing and petition the birds to stop eating us and make us equals. Yeah that'll work :rolleyes:

Learn the ecosystem, learn your place in it, learn your specific strengths and fucking use them.

Oh and it is very much possible to create an equality bubble for yourself. Start a cult. Be an awesome band member and start a commune with your groupies. Join an existing commune, if you have enough valuable skills to contribute. None of this will change the ecosystem at large in any way, as primates are NOT made to be equal. You still have to put in the work to make yourself valuable to a group of your peers. Which I suspect you have a problem with, you'd like for it to happen magically, tomorrow, with the help of UFO's :lol:


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: Spacerific]
    #19529335 - 02/06/14 07:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: Spacerific]
    #19530263 - 02/06/14 12:12 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Things may be perfect, though if violent leaders of our world have the right to impose their wishes on my will, then I will not release my right to impose my wishes of peace to the world.



You have the right to try whatever crazy stuff you want, it just seems to be VERY, VERY ineffective at this point. While these people command well organized armies (of soldiers and employees) that do their bidding, you command nothing. By the looks of it you have a pretty poor command even of yourself.

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Why can they indefinitely change things for the worse and I can't attempt to change things for the better?



You can attempt everything. It's just that they're effective and you aren't. For now at least. I point you at the Zeitgeist movement for example. I don't agree with it, but at least it got support effectively, compared to the effort initially put in. That was started by a fucking guy with an idea and some time to edit video. It can be done, but you have to understand how to do it, and then put in the effort to actually execute. While he had time to make impressive hour long videos, you have 5 minutes to write poorly thought out dubious posts.

That's the main difference, effectiveness. Ask yourself why people work 5 days a week for the status quo you dislike, and yet they refuse to work for you. IMO they do so because your advertising, or camouflage or propaganda, is completely ineffective. It doesn't look, sound or move well enough to impress anybody. Work on it.

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Saying that we are in anarchy and always have been is very interesting.  I like the idea, but the fact that people still believe and submit to our hierarchical society means that mass people do not believe we operate in anarchy.



Of course, because the state propaganda is effective. Back in the day people literally believed the words of the churches, medieval leaders and so on. They did it right so it worked for them. Learn how advertising, marketing, memes and information circulates around you. See how animals do it in the ecosystem. Working with sound, image, color, movement, signals. Your signals are simply ineffective by comparison at this point. You have a guitar for instance. When you have as much control over it as Hendrix had over his, you too will be able to move minds and hearts effectively. But not before.

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It's time to change the ecosystem to equality.  We could be progressing so much faster as one united species.



This right here shows me you don't get it at all. Look in nature. Where on the face of this blue planet do you see ANY equality? Look at monkeys, bacteria, plants, birds, anything. WHAT part of the ecosystem do you see being equal, unstructured and unmoved by constant competition? It's ludicrous. Expecting your betters to give you the time of day and resources to consume, before you've earned any of it. Insects dissatisfied with the fact they're food for birds and have to fly and hide to stay alive. Let's sing and petition the birds to stop eating us and make us equals. Yeah that'll work :rolleyes:

Learn the ecosystem, learn your place in it, learn your specific strengths and fucking use them.

Oh and it is very much possible to create an equality bubble for yourself. Start a cult. Be an awesome band member and start a commune with your groupies. Join an existing commune, if you have enough valuable skills to contribute. None of this will change the ecosystem at large in any way, as primates are NOT made to be equal. You still have to put in the work to make yourself valuable to a group of your peers. Which I suspect you have a problem with, you'd like for it to happen magically, tomorrow, with the help of UFO's :lol:




My goal is not to perpetuate propaganda, my goal is to propagate/catalyze a spiritual upbringing throughout the world.  This happens from the ground up.

Nature is completely free.  There are no hierarchies that enslave creatures they consider to be below them.  There are no monetary systems in nature.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19531399 - 02/06/14 04:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

No monetary systems but there certainly is a food chain.  Which would you prefer?


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19532086 - 02/06/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Money does not grow food, people grow food.

Money does prevent people from getting food however.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19532143 - 02/06/14 06:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Unless you don't have money.  Money provides incentive to not feed the poor.  Where's the money in that?

We grow enough food to feed over 10 billion people.  Why is there hunger?

Government sanctions and disparities of wealth.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19533507 - 02/07/14 12:12 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

If you are a messiah you are just another shitty divine ultimatum, aand ultimatums are as nasty as it gets.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #19534250 - 02/07/14 07:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Unless you don't have money.  Money provides incentive to not feed the poor.  Where's the money in that?




The existence of money does nothing of the kind.
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We grow enough food to feed over 10 billion people.  Why is there hunger?




Transportation
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Government sanctions and disparities of wealth.




What government sanctions?


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19535215 - 02/07/14 12:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I made it to page 11.  I'll read more if I have time to kill.  If the OP is still here I have to say:

The things you think can be a normal part of the process of becoming more aware.  If you take the drugs the doctors want you to take it may make you act more normal, but it also may ruin any chance you have of passing through and beyond this phase.  Your life will be wasted supporting a bullshit oppressive world if you listen to the conventional experts.  You end up with a plain old job, following lots of stupid rules, and paying taxes to a corrupt and power hungry government.  (Sorry for being insensitive to the mentally I'll, but I'd rather see people living under bridges taking to angels than blindly supporting the people that try to find and imprison folks like us.)  I say ride it out and take the chance.  Maybe you can do some good in this life.

However, and listen closely... The whole Messiah thing is actually pretty amateur.  Many, many, many people have a few insights, assume that the have everything all figured out.  It's so fucking common it's almost a cliche.  What you need to do is accept that there is still so much more for you to learn.  You need to ask Life and the universe to help keep you moving forward on your path.  Don't be one of those douches.

The truly amazing and powerful people are the ones that set aside their self importance and come to understand that as a human being, no matter what they have seen, they are only one small part of so much more.  We can can his world, but the changes will not hinge on one individual.  We must all work together on this.

Consider this:

Jesus was an absolute failure.  His goal was to help people understand that the true path was a personal one that each person had to undertake.  Yet what did people do?  The built an immense religion around his ideas.  They built a religion where if you followed the rules you went to heaven.  One in which no personal growth was necessary, and free thought and spiritual exploration was actually discouraged.  Yea, the most famousest Messiah in the whole history of our world failed.

Yea, fuck the man.  Follow you path, but don't be just another dumb ass that stops at Messiah stage.  Go beyond that shit and never stop learning.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #19535228 - 02/07/14 12:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Reply to fail.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19535391 - 02/07/14 01:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

OPs on that good dope.

I hope he wins, you know, against the government or whatever.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: setb]
    #20081198 - 06/04/14 12:50 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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setb said:
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greenterror said:
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RiderOnTheStorm said:
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greenterror said:
I turned twenty years old yesterday.




Well that explains the rest of the post.

Society has always been this fucked. There is no god to kill. There is no karma to stop. Your death will come and go as billions have before yours.



Quite judgmental to discount the voice of someone due to their age, don't you think?  The age of the soul speaks more than the age of the skin.

The universe is god, consciousness is god, you are god.  Technology cannot save us for only we can save ourselves by attuning our consciousness to a higher frequency of love.  Technology will help enable this to happen but we are the technology that will truly transform our universe.

Synthe, good sir, the CIA is using drug cartels to assassinate me.  They have made their presence known for nearly a year now.  They have spray painted THEY KILLED BAMBI, GET HIGH NIGGA and KILLRS next to the scene I laid down for them to kill me the first day they appeared.

They are back, have notified me with a sign reading LUMP HEAD.

I recommend you prepare.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risperidone




:lol: oh man i fucking love shit like this. Godbless the shroomery, and god, i don't know about greenterror, you might want to do a recall on the model number, it seems a bit loose around the hinges.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: greenterror]
    #20081536 - 06/04/14 03:44 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Money does not grow food, people grow food.

Money does prevent people from getting food however.



Money does not prevent people from getting food, people prevent people from getting food.


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Re: The fall of society is upon us, this is a call to action [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #20081562 - 06/04/14 04:01 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

So was Jesus Banned?


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