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Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again?
    #19367168 - 01/04/14 08:04 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

I have a weird problem. I've been doing psychedelics on and off for about 8 years. On New Year's I took 3 hits of DOB thinking it was acid and while I was tripping I thought I never wanna trip again. The reason is that I thought I saw everything I ever wanted to get from psychedelics; intense feelings of love and awe, oneness with the universe, visions of creation, shapeshifting... and while I was tripping I said to myself and others that I feel like there's no reason to trip anymore. I think a big part of it is because the DOB felt very unpersonal and harsh... Now I'm at a weird predicament. I have the ingredients for Ayahuasca coming in the mail and I've always wanted to try DMT. It's something I've been wanting to do since I started. And now that I've been sober for a few days, I DO want to trip. But I'm struggling with making sense of what I felt. Has anyone ever had that type of experience and then tripped again? How was it? I actually told my girl I didn't wanna trip again so it's a problem. It's not that she would care or look down on me but I feel like I would be going back on my word. I really need some advice. I'm thinking I should do a small dose to sort these thoughts out. I feel like I said that because I was just so utterly overwhelmed with the experience.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367188 - 01/04/14 08:16 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Yep ate way too much Cid once. Didn't come back for like a week. Turned me off for a couple years. Never let a tripping guy hand out Lucy it ends badly, he was just ripping a sheet apart and I was already funk ed up that I didn't realize till it was too late that the "hit" he gave me covered my tongue and then some. Great trip but wanted to be over a long as time before it was.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367275 - 01/04/14 08:45 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

lol yeah it was the second time trying acid and i got my hands on some of the most potent blotter ive ever had, anyway long story short i ate 2, was freaking out and was sayin in my head that if i ever come down i will never do acid again..... by next week i was eating them again, just not double dropping haha

fun times they were..

i think if you did brew up your Ayahuasca it would most likely be a memorable experience that you would never forget and it might open your eyes to a new world of psychedelia or just confirm your feelings that you have nothing more to learn from these drugs

either way i rkn it would be a blast :bigjoint:


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: forrest_dweller]
    #19367279 - 01/04/14 08:49 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Okay so I'm not the only one. :grin:


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367324 - 01/04/14 09:15 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Years back I dropped the last drop out of a sweet breath bottle on my friends tongue, then rinsed the bottle with some vodka and swished it around and drank all the liquid. Within 20 mins I realized I was about to get more than I was asking for. Within an hour I was completely gone from reality. I thought I was going to die that night. I didn't eat any acid for a few years after that and still to this day don't have the balls to eat more than 1 hit. Luckily I've been getting good doses and 1 seems to be perfect anyways.

A few years before that I downed a 7 gram dried mushroom that was completely closed I mean this sucker was nice and premature. I was drunk as hell when I ate it and forgot until it kicked in. That was a rough night as well and it took almost 10 years before I could eat anymore than 1-2 grams dried. I ate an eighth of some very nice closed caps a few months ago and had an awesome time, but it took a while to get be able to eat that much again.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: lateforthafuture]
    #19367332 - 01/04/14 09:21 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Now to explain to the people close to me how I didn't mean it when I said I wasn't gonna trip anymore... Fuck.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367437 - 01/04/14 09:59 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

This has happend to me off of 7g of mushrooms. I was turned off of psychedelics for a year or so untill I got the itch again.
I think every experienced psychonaut has been there.

Brew up the aya and spiral out dude.
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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19367454 - 01/04/14 10:06 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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You need explain nothing to nobody.




Exactly. Deep down I know this and I also don't care. My Acacia should come in the mail today. I'll take your advice and spiral out. :mushroom2:

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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367484 - 01/04/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Yeah I took 4 hits of some Wow and got my ass handed to me. Wasn't right for about a week and didn't trip for a good year after that experience.

Would I do it all again though?

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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367585 - 01/04/14 10:44 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Yea man, you are certainly not alone. I have had those feelings of never wanting to trip again, and for many different reasons.

I went through a phase where I dosed too often and as you said, felt like I had nothing to take from it anymore, thus telling myself I was done with this chapter of my life.

I have wanted to stop because especially recently, I have been getting far too disconnected from myself even on light doses, at times I feel I've gone too far and have crossed the line and expanded the mind far too much. It's weird, it's not so much a disconnect, as much as really not liking the situation I'm in at this point in my life, and the person I'm seeing in myself during my trips is not good for me, and it gets very scary. However, I'm always back in the saddle,

Our minds usually know when a break is needed. Trust me man, as many others stated, we've all been there. Take a break for as long as you can, half a year, a year, 10 years, who cares, these experiences will always be available to you.

The other thing that phase in my psychedelic life has taught me though, is to why over analyze? Trips are very personal, but in reality, there is no "rule book" with psychedelics as far as what should or shouldn't be felt on them. Think about it, the feeling is there, enjoy it, who says you have to be able to take some lessons from it or some revelation that used to come during these experiences? Nobody. That's only the mindset based on what is expected of these substances to be useful for. Listen, they do teach us a lot about ourselves, but you know what? They're fun as hell also, and if I'm tripping and I'm not getting into that whole "searching for spirituality vibe" then so be it, I make the trip recreational at that point. I do agree that these substances aren't solely for recreation by any means, but no one says they can't be. Trips are always different, whatever the trip may be, just go with it and let it be what it is, whether enlightening or hollow, make it work for yourself. :super:

The biggest thing I'm going to recommend bro, is take a nice break, trust me. Forget completely what the psychedelic experience feels like, however long it takes to do so, and when the times right, take a hefty dose, you're love for them will most likely return, and if not, then maybe it's time to pack it in. Remember, it's not the drugs that change, it's us.

Trips are just like the mind itself, it grows, matures and develops. The experiences I had 5 years ago are far different than what I experience now, there's been moments of Heaven and moments of Hell, but I wouldn't change a thing. I'm right there with you man, In this past 2 months I tripped 5 times. I kind of forced a trip upon myself last night, because I had to test a batch, and I only dosed last Friday so the tolerance was through the roof, but I still tripped, but towards the end it kinda sucked. I know the whole thing of how "you will always come down", I've done this over 30 times, but last night, I couldn't convince myself, I seriously thought that I had gone too far and this was my life now, pure insanity, and because of tolerance, I wasn't really tripping, but the effect of the drug on my mind was unbearable, too much tripping in two short a time span for me. I need a break too bro, I'm right there with you, I'd love to stop tripping for at least 6 months, but it's hard, because I love the psychedelic experience, but lately they taught me I need to stop tripping until I sort my life out, a lot I need to fix. We can search for spirituality or "God" all we want, but in the end we have to live life too, and we can reach for something tangible, or continue to search for something that that will always be too far out of reach, or not exist at all.

If you want to keep tripping, then go for it, but don't stress over things that aren't super important. You wouldn't believe what a 6 month break will do, then jumping right back into the psychedelic state on a good dose, it rejuvenates the love for them.

Good luck brother, and do what's right for you. :hippie:


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #19367760 - 01/04/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Tripping is scary as fuck. It's often not til I come down that I look back and think 'shit that was one of the strangest, most exciting things i've ever done'.

And when you do come down(which you will) and realise that everything is gonna be alright, that's when you realise how awesome it truly was.

EDIT: Kinda missed the point I wanted to make, which is that lots of people have convinced themselves they'll never trip again (while tripping balls) to then come down, appreciate the experience and have a yearning to get right back there sooner or later.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367881 - 01/04/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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I have a weird problem. I've been doing psychedelics on and off for about 8 years. On New Year's I took 3 hits of DOB thinking it was acid and while I was tripping I thought I never wanna trip again. The reason is that I thought I saw everything I ever wanted to get from psychedelics; intense feelings of love and awe, oneness with the universe, visions of creation, shapeshifting... and while I was tripping I said to myself and others that I feel like there's no reason to trip anymore. I think a big part of it is because the DOB felt very unpersonal and harsh... Now I'm at a weird predicament. I have the ingredients for Ayahuasca coming in the mail and I've always wanted to try DMT. It's something I've been wanting to do since I started. And now that I've been sober for a few days, I DO want to trip. But I'm struggling with making sense of what I felt. Has anyone ever had that type of experience and then tripped again? How was it? I actually told my girl I didn't wanna trip again so it's a problem. It's not that she would care or look down on me but I feel like I would be going back on my word. I really need some advice. I'm thinking I should do a small dose to sort these thoughts out. I feel like I said that because I was just so utterly overwhelmed with the experience.



There's a quote about acid, "When you have received the message, put down the messanger." You can interpret it for yourself and see what it means to you. I for one, was having a bad trip once and swore to myself never to take acid ever again (it was 25b-NBOMe but I didn't know it at the time). I now go shroom picking every weekend and enjoy LSD frequently. My first trip after I swore never to trip again was a wonderful trip. I saw the beauty of psychedelics, which I had previously thought to be horrifying


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #19367933 - 01/04/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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We can search for spirituality or "God" all we want, but in the end we have to live life too, and we can reach for something tangible, or continue to search for something that that will always be too far out of reach, or not exist at all.





I totally understand what you're saying. My reason for tripping has changed from spiritual things to practical things that help me sort out my life. It's just a coincidence I saw God on my last trip. I wasn't looking for it.

Well, I've decided I'll try low dose Ayahuasca and probably be done with psychedelics for a long time like you said. I can't predict the future but I am tired of all these synthetics psychedelics. But Ayahuasca is different to me. It's a sacrament to some people. And something I've waited years to try. And it might be in the mail as I write this.

Thank you for the insightful post. It does mean a lot to me. Good vibes. :heart:


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367974 - 01/04/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

:orly:  You take DOB and get have problem relating to the experience but then want to take DMT? :vibin:

You do understand that DMT will take you much more FAR OUT and you will get MORE disconnected from reality than DOB or LSD can ever do!
Even with low dose, I would discourage you from taking it reading what you said.  Gotta love the idiotic advice given here,yea take dmt if you are a scared with dob or lsd:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: rikuni]
    #19367994 - 01/04/14 12:34 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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:orly:  You take DOB and get have problem relating to the experience but then want to take DMT? :vibin:

You do understand that DMT will take you much more FAR OUT and you will get MORE disconnected from reality than DOB or LSD can ever do!
Even with low dose, I would discourage you from taking it reading what you said.  Gotta love the idiotic advice given here,yea take dmt if you are a scared with dob or lsd:goodluckwiththat2:




Well I've never had problems up to 5 hits of acid and I think DOB was like that for me cause it felt too unnatural if that makes sense. But thanks for your opinion. I'm actually taking N,N-DMT not 5-MeO.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368010 - 01/04/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

good luck you have been warned.

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because I was just so utterly overwhelmed with the experience.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368011 - 01/04/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Actually you know what, I handled it pretty fucking great for how hard I tripped and some of the things that happened really did make sense in my worldview so I don't know what you're talking about. The only thing I said is that I felt like there's no more reason to trip, not that it scared me so yeah... your post makes no sense on second thought.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368213 - 01/04/14 01:17 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

I totally understood what you were saying though man, you're not alone. It's not that you've tripped enough, just that you've tripped too frequently. Breaks are great things. :thumbup:


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #19368318 - 01/04/14 01:39 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Deathcore]
    #19368353 - 01/04/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Whenever I have a really strong trip I never have the urge to redose for days, weeks, or sometimes months. Other times I've wanted to trip the next day...It all comes down to how Im feeling after coming down.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: ChinChiller]
    #19368411 - 01/04/14 01:54 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Yes, and I kept it up for three years.

It was a mushroom trip that showed me that I just wanted everything to be more extreme and intense all the time. I could never enjoy the moment because I was always thinking of ways to intensify the experience. I decided I should stop taking any substances. I kept that up for 3 years of straight edge sobriety.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19368491 - 01/04/14 02:11 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I miss the times in which my trip lessons were so crystal clear that I had no trouble acting on them and integrating them straight away.

Maybe I trip too much these days.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19368531 - 01/04/14 02:18 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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I miss the times in which my trip lessons were so crystal clear that I had no trouble acting on them and integrating them straight away.

Maybe I trip too much these days.




I feel like there's only so much you can learn that you can actually integrate and then there's a point of diminishing returns or you see stuff you already knew. Doesn't mean it's not fun to trip though.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368561 - 01/04/14 02:23 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I feel like I do still get the lessons, I just get more hard headed and tend to ignore them a bit.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368722 - 01/04/14 03:02 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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I feel like there's only so much you can learn that you can actually integrate and then there's a point of diminishing returns or you see stuff you already knew. Doesn't mean it's not fun to trip though.





I've never learned anything from psychedelics that I didn't already know on some level. I don't trip to learn anything new. I trip to learn what I know that I didn't know that I knew, you know?

Also, it is fun, and it helps me recapture that sense of wonder and amazement and appreciation for everything great and small.

I can't see myself quitting psychedelics forever, but I could see taking periodic breaks in my usage.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19368802 - 01/04/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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I've never learned anything from psychedelics that I didn't already know on some level. I don't trip to learn anything new. I trip to learn what I know that I didn't know that I knew, you know?





My book character is not a very experienced tripper, but he would agree with the above. Plus, he has found that it is the lower doses, sub-open eyed visuals, that are the most frustrating. He doesn't quite enter the psychedelic reality nor does fully remain in our concrete one. Stuck in the middle for 6+ hours he sees the psychedelic reality and all of its 'insights' and 'discoveries' as the ridiculous nonsensical bullshit that they are. He comes down from such trips mumbling about 'lies' and 'smoke and mirrors' and even feeling especially religious in the orthodox kind of way.

If the above makes little sense, I clearly have quite a bit of improvement to make in my writing before starting that novel.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368860 - 01/04/14 03:34 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

On 25i I wished it was over every minute for maybe 8 hours or so and promised myself never to trip 25i again

has happened with 3 shroom bad trips in a row too, really bad trips each time, demonic etc.
took a 8 month break after that

and on LSD, egodeath can be intense sometimes, felt crazy for a while while redefining
couldnt define myself :-)
then I learned to accept that

LSD is usually always pleasant, unless you get to egodeath 2-3 trips in a row... suddenly you can only get "there"
instead of tripping normally... can be too intense
it can happen even on 1 hit if you let it unconsciously, then you are forced to redefine your whole life and universe


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368975 - 01/04/14 04:02 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

yep. i've had overpowering experiences after having eaten L a couple hundred times. a number of times i've had a really powerful trip that seems like THE trip. after these pinnacle experiences, i tell myself "i'm not tripping again. i don't need this anymore. i've learned enough. nothing could top that experience." but then i get that itch down the road and i end up tripping again. it's not a psychological addiction or anything...it's more like a need for a spiritual reboot or a reboot for the brain.

telling loved ones sucks. been there. told my friends and girlfriend many times, "well, that was my last acid trip. never taking it again." then when i talk about my next time taking it, they're like, "i thought you said...blah blah blah." they just don't understand, and they don't need to if they can't


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19368997 - 01/04/14 04:07 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

When I first started using psychedelics, right at the peak I would always think "man, I am never going to trip again!" Never actually paid attention to that when I came down.

I haven't had that thought while tripping in years though. Maybe it goes away with experience or something.


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Re: Has anyone tripped really hard and thought you never wanna trip again? [Re: crispy86]
    #19369068 - 01/04/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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telling loved ones sucks. been there. told my friends and girlfriend many times, "well, that was my last acid trip. never taking it again." then when i talk about my next time taking it, they're like, "i thought you said...blah blah blah." they just don't understand, and they don't need to if they can't




Yeah that's true. The thing is it can be a hindrance on certain levels. Maybe your word means less to them now. It doesn't matter but it still sucks.


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