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Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry
#19364808 - 01/03/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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So I have a question for you guys/gals in the restaurant/food industries. I've been in retail, luxury sales, automotive and telecomm. industries, have also freelanced all for many years, and just have not found anything 'worth' the time/money. Besides the money/time spent, I was never really happy with any of the positions I pursued. And I'm sorry, being taken advantage of is not worth the stress without any reward. (maybe thats just ego speaking )
So long story short, I want to break into the restaurant/food industry and being as I have no working experience, I have no clue where to even start. Don't get me wrong, I know I could just walk into a Red Robin and get a dishwashing job, but I have $50g school debt (didn't finish due to lack of funds), car payment and a child to take care of, I cant really work for such little pay. I have great customer service skills, detail orientated, hard worker and have worked in a meat shop for a while, so I have a basic idea of what to expect. Customer is always right, long/hectic hours, team work, ect,..
I dont know, so I guess my question is, should I suck it up and just work my way up from a dishwasher? How long do you think it would take to work my way up to a server?
Thanks for ANY advice at all, I appreciate it! DO criticize me if you feel the need.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19364836 - 01/03/14 06:12 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Food is hard and stressful at first. Just fyi
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: lunarpiscean]
#19364866 - 01/03/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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lunarpiscean said: Food is hard and stressful at first. Just fyi
Thanks lunarpiscean. Totally understand! I am expecting that. Meat shop showed me somewhat specified routes (demanding chefs with special and specific orders, ect,.) I am not expecting an easy ride in or way out, just wondering what others experiences were like working their way up.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19364913 - 01/03/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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I worked food for about 3 years. My biggest problem was fighting with coworkers. Apply at a lot of places, continue to call back but do not call during a rush. You're less likely to get hired then plus it's annoying.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: lunarpiscean]
#19364933 - 01/03/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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lunarpiscean said: I worked food for about 3 years. My biggest problem was fighting with coworkers. Apply at a lot of places, continue to call back but do not call during a rush. You're less likely to get hired then plus it's annoying.
Aw! haha I see, the tension? Well thanks! I really do appreciate it  Im going balls to the wall Monday! I already tried Fogo de Chao, PF Changs, and another steakhouse, but I think I had my bar set to high.  If I could rate ya I would!!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19364951 - 01/03/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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In my (and my wife's) experience dishwashers become cooks and busboys become servers.
Apply for server and busboy positions. Both will get tips.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: lunarpiscean]
#19364971 - 01/03/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Servers are usually hired as and stay servers, dish usually works up to cooking in my experience. Small portion of each turn get into shift leaders and eventually management.
If I had a kid and was looking for entry-level stuff, I wouldn't be picky. Take what you can get first before looking for something better.
Also, IME dishwashing is a lot more fast-paced, probably nonstop at Red Robins than say working a deli counter. You'll have to get used to scalding and burning your hands a few times a day Some people can do it, some can't; you'll never know until you try
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: 4runner]
#19364982 - 01/03/14 06:38 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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A lot of food places won't call you back but instead they want you to harass them. Maggianos here is the perfect example of that.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19365007 - 01/03/14 06:41 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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FOH and BOH (front of the house aka servers bartenders, back of the house aka cooks and dish washers) those two are very different ball games. it comes down to getting tipped for work, versus hourly pay.
my best advice is just to go to a place, get an interview and SHOW them you are a people person who wants to work and is WILLING to learn and make mistakes.
the most difficult part for me is this: approaching a table. sounds easy, right? ever been the main character in a tv sitcom? ever been the main character in 5 tv sitcoms at once? thats how i felt.
you have a lot of experience working, and like i said if you show you are WILLING you have nothing to worry about. apply for a server and go strong out of the gates.
you will make hellah mistakes, so just deal with it. fyi Red Robin is a piece of shit. use it as a first job and learning experience, then move on.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365008 - 01/03/14 06:41 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365017 - 01/03/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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that movie rattaoulie is the best example i can use. everyone can be part of the restaurant industry, that what makes it unique. not eeveryone was MEANT for it though. put your best foot forward and i would love to answer any questions.
if we are talking about real hands on work (think like a video game, your time played does not count when the game is paused) i have 3 years of real experience on the floor, but 5 years experience with everything surrounding that. so it just depends on how you want to look at it.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365063 - 01/03/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Its more commonluy called the Service Industry right? Does that mean more than just resteraunts/cafes/catering...bars?
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Repertoire89]
#19365083 - 01/03/14 06:53 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365087 - 01/03/14 06:53 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Exactly what position are you interested in? Cooking?
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: RavageTheEarth]
#19365133 - 01/03/14 07:02 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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its a high stress job believe it or not. you either sink or swim. i prefer to swim, but then again i am one stressed out mother fucker all the time, so i just seem really natural in the environment.
its the only job i know of where i get to explode on people and berate them then we're friends 5 minutes later
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365148 - 01/03/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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anunnakian said: In my (and my wife's) experience dishwashers become cooks and busboys become servers.
Apply for server and busboy positions. Both will get tips.
Really!? Ha what a coincidence! ok GREAT! Thanks boss! 
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pcplease said: Servers are usually hired as and stay servers, dish usually works up to cooking in my experience. Small portion of each turn get into shift leaders and eventually management.
If I had a kid and was looking for entry-level stuff, I wouldn't be picky. Take what you can get first before looking for something better.
Also, IME dishwashing is a lot more fast-paced, probably nonstop at Red Robins than say working a deli counter. You'll have to get used to scalding and burning your hands a few times a day Some people can do it, some can't; you'll never know until you try 
Totally, I'm looking for her best intentions as well! Im going to be going from freezing my hands off(meat freezer) to burning them off haha! And thats exactly how I see it, gotta try everything out at least once! Thanks +++++ 
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lunarpiscean said: A lot of food places won't call you back but instead they want you to harass them. Maggianos here is the perfect example of that.
haha Im an eager beaver when it comes to call backs. So maybe ill have some better luck with this advice!
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DebuteMachine said: my best advice is just to go to a place, get an interview and SHOW them you are a people person who wants to work and is WILLING to learn and make mistakes.
you have a lot of experience working, and like i said if you show you are WILLING you have nothing to worry about. apply for a server and go strong out of the gates.
you will make hellah mistakes, so just deal with it. fyi Red Robin is a piece of shit. use it as a first job and learning experience, then move on.
Wow! haha thats a smack in the face reality check! No but for real thank you, I appreciate it. Real world exp. is what I was looking for, you defiantly nailed it!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: RavageTheEarth]
#19365163 - 01/03/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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RavageTheEarth said: Exactly what position are you interested in? Cooking?
I honestly would be willing to learn anything! I'm wanting to be a server eventually, but I would like to have the experience of as many positions under my belt, just incase there was a shortage or what not, Im the type of person that is a workaholic and loves to help out anyway I can. And so no one could ever use it aginst me saying, "you dont know what its like, bla bla bla", I can say, " ohhhhh yes I do!"
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Repertoire89]
#19365189 - 01/03/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

haha thanks for the advice!  I am willing to take my chances though. I don't want to resort to going to the military..
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365208 - 01/03/14 07:15 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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I sort of work in food. I'm a barista at a local coffee shop but we also do paninis etc. It's more work than any of the jobs I've had before (I'm 23) but worth it at the end of the day. Feel like you've accomplished something and have a fat wad of tip money in your pocket.
It looks really good to food industries if you have some food experience. What I recommend is working at a deli because that is the basic food experience. I worked at one for a year with no previous history and they ended up loving me. Once you get the hang of it, it becomes second nature.
Keep us posted on your gallivant, here's to the best in the food world.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Repertoire89]
#19365277 - 01/03/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

Exactly this. Why the hell would you want to lower yourself by working in the restaurant industry? It is the WORSE industry to work for, and then retail being right above it.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Snotfish]
#19365282 - 01/03/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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It seems like you're just bouncing from one part-time wage slave position to another, they're all gonna suck  Who knows though, this could be that thing you're good at...
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19365287 - 01/03/14 07:30 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

Exactly this. Why the hell would you want to lower yourself by working in the restaurant industry? It is the WORSE industry to work for, and then retail being right above it.

I've made 20 an hour regularly. Sure it comes with it's bullshit, but it's completely worth it. We are people please-ers, like I said sink or swim.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19365294 - 01/03/14 07:31 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

Exactly this. Why the hell would you want to lower yourself by working in the restaurant industry? It is the WORSE industry to work for, and then retail being right above it.
I don't think I'm alone here but if it is a respectable restaurant then the product is somewhat of an art form. Definitely is where I work and that's where the personal gratification comes in. I'm not talking deep frying burgers for a line of hungry Americans right now.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Snotfish]
#19365296 - 01/03/14 07:31 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Dank he's never worked at a place that sells health food all hand made with blood sweat and tears. I know what you mean 100%.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365356 - 01/03/14 07:42 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

Exactly this. Why the hell would you want to lower yourself by working in the restaurant industry? It is the WORSE industry to work for, and then retail being right above it.

I've made 20 an hour regularly. Sure it comes with it's bullshit, but it's completely worth it. We are people please-ers, like I said sink or swim.
Woopty doo!!! You can also make 20+ an hour by going to trade school and getting certified in something. And you don't have to deal with all the bullshit stress. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can handle the kind of stress that the restaurant industry offers. Working in the food service and retail industry has made me seriously HATE people.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19365365 - 01/03/14 07:43 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Woopty doo!!! That amused me, you sound angry. Whats wrong? Where do you get off putting other people's hard work down?
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19365418 - 01/03/14 07:52 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Dankfish said: I sort of work in food. I'm a barista at a local coffee shop but we also do paninis etc. It's more work than any of the jobs I've had before (I'm 23) but worth it at the end of the day. Feel like you've accomplished something and have a fat wad of tip money in your pocket.
It looks really good to food industries if you have some food experience. What I recommend is working at a deli because that is the basic food experience. I worked at one for a year with no previous history and they ended up loving me. Once you get the hang of it, it becomes second nature.
Keep us posted on your gallivant, here's to the best in the food world.
Thank you for your input Dankfish!! I have a little experience in a deli, worked some shifts for a friend while I was in the meat shop. I totally agree I could use some more experience in the field. Thanks again though brother! Will deff. keep the Forum posted!
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Repertoire89 said: Start as a dishwasher and you'll probably stay BOH, really I just recommend staying away from restaurants. Its a horrible industry and I recommend anyone to stay out of it

Exactly this. Why the hell would you want to lower yourself by working in the restaurant industry? It is the WORSE industry to work for, and then retail being right above it.
I dont know honestly, ha I love interacting with people, i'm very generous/willing to help out in any given moment. I feel like I would be a good fit! Plus I love food so why not contribute to the life? Plus I want to at least have the ability to say I've experianced it, and as stated above by DebuteMachine, I will either sink or swim! Thanks for you opinion though! Much appreciated!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365427 - 01/03/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: Woopty doo!!! That amused me, you sound angry. Whats wrong? Where do you get off putting other people's hard work down?
I've worked in the food service industry for a long time. Also worked in retail. They're both the most bull shit line of work anyone can do.
I've gone to junior college and have received my associate in art's degree for finishing general ed. That degree has got me nothing in this shit economy. I'm going to massage therapy school right now. After I get licensed, I will be able to charge 60+ for an hour massage. And all I have to do is massage, be RELAXED and NOT STRESSED the fuck out like a restaurant worker running around like a chicken with its head cut off, dealing with angry customers.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365435 - 01/03/14 07:54 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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When a table walks in and they want to talk food, it's like the are saying "hey we like sex, can you talk sex with us?"
I get off on it.

Also the last year of my life I was the bartender at a small company (I left for reasons involving the owner is a fucking moron) and damn people would just come in, order, and chat, and tip me at the end! Think of it like this forum, I just got off on it so much.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19365436 - 01/03/14 07:55 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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I've made 20 an hour regularly. Sure it comes with it's bullshit, but it's completely worth it. We are people please-ers, like I said sink or swim.
Woopty doo!!! You can also make 20+ an hour by going to trade school and getting certified in something. And you don't have to deal with all the bullshit stress. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can handle the kind of stress that the restaurant industry offers. Working in the food service and retail industry has made me seriously HATE people.
Hey Debbie Downer....Did you see where i said IM 50,000 in debt from school?! Not an option anymore bud. Thanks again tho.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365465 - 01/03/14 08:00 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Look you don't like it, I get it. Working 6 hours a day with people I enjoy and getting paid to see them is a fucking dream come true to me.
It's not always 20 an hour, but if you want to work it it can be. I'm a whore for that kind of stuff anyways. The smiles kill me.
I suppose we're in different boats tho, sorry bro.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Lynnch]
#19365475 - 01/03/14 08:02 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Lynnch said: It seems like you're just bouncing from one part-time wage slave position to another, they're all gonna suck  Who knows though, this could be that thing you're good at...
I do NOT disagree with you one bit man, I have burned my bridges in the past, as well as made many others happy for the work ive done, and have good references. I've worked up to three jobs at once throughout a weeks time(part time obviously). But I'm just looking for my path is all. I can't afford to do what I really want (Audio Production) but I'm making the best out of it that I can. Thanks for your input
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365483 - 01/03/14 08:04 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: Working 6 hours a day with people I enjoy and getting paid to see them is a fucking dream come true to me.

Thats what I'm talking about
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365495 - 01/03/14 08:06 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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All I can say is this past year is the first year I've ever felt that success I really was striving for. It felt good, it felt fulfilling. It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it.
I'm weird like that.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365577 - 01/03/14 08:20 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: All I can say is this past year is the first year I've ever felt that success I really was striving for. It felt good, it felt fulfilling. It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it.
I'm weird like that.
Ahhh... /: sorry to hear that, hope you find something soon! I mean if anything embrace the time you have off and reflect! By the sounds of it though, sounds like you have plenty of good exp. in the field. I'm sure youll be back on the train soon
As for the turkish prick.. tsk tsk..thats that shit I dont like..lol but aye its part of the life experience right? I also strive for a stressful environment, because I hate standing around doing nothing. Thats why I couldnt stand doing sales anymore. Commission was great but just wasn't worth the boredom. haha thanks for standing up though!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365609 - 01/03/14 08:27 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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If you guys want to work in a restaurant have at it, its your loss 
I'd rather work in a warehouse, make more money for a lot less stress. That's a labor position even easier to obtain than restaurant work, with more job openings in the big city
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365614 - 01/03/14 08:29 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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If you're 50k in debt, why don't you finish school just to offset your loans some more? Have you applied for federal aid?
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Repertoire89]
#19365630 - 01/03/14 08:33 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: If you guys want to work in a restaurant have at it, its your loss 
I'd rather work in a warehouse, make more money for a lot less stress. That's a labor position even easier to obtain than restaurant work, with more job openings in the big city
Yeah but what's the pay?
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365664 - 01/03/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: All I can say is this past year is the first year I've ever felt that success I really was striving for. It felt good, it felt fulfilling. It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it. I'm weird like that.
So your ex-boss was a "Turkish piece of shit"? 
If you can't "keep a lid on it" (it being your choice of words) on the internet, with as much time as you need to think before speaking, no doubt you got let go
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Synthe]
#19365710 - 01/03/14 08:50 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: If you guys want to work in a restaurant have at it, its your loss 
I'd rather work in a warehouse, make more money for a lot less stress. That's a labor position even easier to obtain than restaurant work, with more job openings in the big city
Yeah but what's the pay?
Generally more than restaurant pay, depends where you go and what position. The lowest rung is often up to $12, thats the equivilant in some places as a dishwasher - only its easier work and easier to find and the dishwasher will be making min wage. If you live in a big city its easy to find temp work (often leading to permanent if desired) and in my experience its always a better situation than restaurants. From your schedule, to the way supervisors interact with you, and down to your paycheck.
Labor positions aren't what I have in mind for a career, but they do fine for a day-job while everything else is put in line.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19365713 - 01/03/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: All I can say is this past year is the first year I've ever felt that success I really was striving for. It felt good, it felt fulfilling. It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it. I'm weird like that.
So your ex-boss was a "Turkish piece of shit"? 
If you can't "keep a lid on it" (it being your choice of words) on the internet, with as much time as you need to think before speaking, no doubt you got let go 
Yeah buddy, you're delusional. I left that place, so you can fuck off.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365728 - 01/03/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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For the record, when it comes to interviews and they ask why I left the reason I'm giving is "I just didn't trust the owner to take the restaurant in the correct direction."
But you if you want to be a homo like that it's fine, act like this is real life and you know who I'm talking about.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
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DebuteMachine said: All I can say is this past year is the first year I've ever felt that success I really was striving for. It felt good, it felt fulfilling. It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it. I'm weird like that.
So your ex-boss was a "Turkish piece of shit"? 
If you can't "keep a lid on it" (it being your choice of words) on the internet, with as much time as you need to think before speaking, no doubt you got let go 
Yeah buddy, you're delusional. I left that place, so you can fuck off.
 I'm not buddies with bigots, nor kids that can't handle justified criticism.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19365779 - 01/03/14 09:06 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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you're an idiot.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365845 - 01/03/14 09:20 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it.

Last restaurant I worked at, the owner was the biggest piece of shit I've ever encountered in my life. He stole from his employees. Belittled just about everyone he could get away with it with. I had worked for him previously and had an idea of what I was getting into before I started. But I was in a weird place in my life at the time and the chef, a good friend of mine, promised me it was going to be different this time. It wasn't.
He (the owner) ended up (allegedly) raping a girl in the back after hours. That hurt business a lot. I quit a few months later when I wasn't seeing any of the tips I was promised and we were on the verge of being shut down by the health board. Place was destroyed in a fire a few months after I quit. Pretty sure he did it himself to get the insurance payout. Still an ongoing investigation I guess.
It's a pretty fucked up industry. Attracts all sorts of people. Good and bad. Luckily a couple weeks after I left that hellhole my friend got me a job at the restaurant he works at. It's far from fine dining, but we do well enough. The owners are amazing people and the core staff actually give a fuck.
Good luck OP.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365863 - 01/03/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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You seem pretty defensive for a (presumably by your registration date) grown man, which is usually a sign of being unable to take responsibility for one's actions (Which here would presumably mean one's words)
And come on, you can do better than "you're an idiot." Would you expect a teacher to hand you a graded paper back with only your final grade, not marking which answers were/are wrong? What do you think was idiotic about what I said?
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19365883 - 01/03/14 09:27 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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pcplease said: You seem pretty defensive for a (presumably by your registration date) grown man, which is usually a sign of being unable to take responsibility for one's actions (Which here would presumably mean one's words)
And come on, you can do better than "you're an idiot." Would you expect a teacher to hand you a graded paper back with only your final grade, not marking which answers were/are wrong? What do you think was idiotic about what I said?
pcp I understand completely the sentiment about keeping your mouth shut. But you don't know who I am IRL, so it does not apply. You're jumping to conclusions and adding information that isn't there, it's ignorant.
I even added a second reply, but you ignored it. So forget it, you don't want to listen, I don't want to talk. Fuck off.
You get ripped off then come back and talk to me about calling people "piece of shit." daiy gets it. You must have missed the part about the 1099.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19365967 - 01/03/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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By second reply, you mean the one where you said something about "being homo"? That's what I meant by seeming defensive.
And you really thought I replied because you said "piece of shit"!? No, the ticker was the unnecessary "Turkish" remark; Ancestry is irrelevant. Regardless of whatever that dude did, if you say stuff like that you aren't gonna come across as any better of a person than he is.
Well, I guess you still might in certain company..
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19365983 - 01/03/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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p.s. I don't/won't report you because I'm not a baby, but be careful saying straight insults like "fuck you" and stuff like that. It's allowed in the "Off Topic Discussion" forum but not here. Sometimes mods won't care/do anything but they usually do ban people who get reported (clicking the whistle-looking thing at the bottom the says "Post Extras:")
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19365992 - 01/03/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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pcplease said: p.s. I don't/won't report you because I'm not a baby, but be careful saying straight insults like "fuck you" and stuff like that. It's allowed in the "Off Topic Discussion" forum but not here. Sometimes mods won't care/do anything but they usually do ban people who get reported (clicking the whistle-looking thing at the bottom the says "Post Extras:")
Believe it or not I am aware. But you are making extremely general assumptions are are insulting my intelligence to the point of me not caring if I get a warning.
Also, I'm a white rabbit. If that makes me racist... oh well!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19365993 - 01/03/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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I'd look into catering companies and the people who run large events too. Places like that will need alot of workers fairly often. They often use temp companies when they get last minute orders, which usually sucks for all parties except the temp company. If you catch them at the right time they will hire you, usually with a basic application and a quick interview. Find out when they have big events and call before/during to see if they are looking for workers.
You'll make a bunch of money in a mad rush, then have time off. If you are a hard worker it will show and they will start depending on you more and more, then you'll have a full time job where you can save up, learn to cook, and learn the basics to start your own company someday.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: DebuteMachine]
#19366005 - 01/03/14 09:51 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Also, I'm a white rabbit. If that makes me racist... oh well!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Repertoire89]
#19366009 - 01/03/14 09:51 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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If there is something wrong with me having white pride that actually makes you a racist believe it or not.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy] 1
#19366016 - 01/03/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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mindOmy said: So long story short, I want to break into the restaurant/food industry and being as I have no working experience
you wait until they're closed, jimmy the door and then help yourself, make sure they have a bar, liquor is the way to go if you're breaking in
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19366037 - 01/03/14 09:57 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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pcplease said: p.s. I don't/won't report you because I'm not a baby, but be careful saying straight insults like "fuck you" and stuff like that. It's allowed in the "Off Topic Discussion" forum but not here. Sometimes mods won't care/do anything but they usually do ban people who get reported (clicking the whistle-looking thing at the bottom the says "Post Extras:")
'fuck you' is not actually an insult to you, it's a simplistic way of saying "I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion on this subject" or something of the nature. we're an adult oriented website, while we do have rules, we have to allow some leeway for open discussion
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: pcplease]
#19366061 - 01/03/14 10:02 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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DebuteMachine said: All I can say is this past year is the first year I've ever felt that success I really was striving for. It felt good, it felt fulfilling. It's just the guy who owned the restaurant (NOTE: I will never refer to him as my ex-boss. I was on a 1099) was such a turkish piece of shit. He will be out of business by next year.
It was heart breaking. Currently unemployed for the last 2 and a half weeks. That is the stress you're talking about, but I really am the type of person to live in it and love it. I'm weird like that.
So your ex-boss was a "Turkish piece of shit"? 
If you can't "keep a lid on it" (it being your choice of words) on the internet, with as much time as you need to think before speaking, no doubt you got let go 
dude... grow a pair... either troll like a troll should troll or dont even try it
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19366066 - 01/03/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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pris where you been? have you been busy? i miss you!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19366126 - 01/03/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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occollegeboi said: If you're 50k in debt, why don't you finish school just to offset your loans some more? Have you applied for federal aid?
I hate explaining this again haha but perhaps it will put some people into anothers mindset. I wasn't able to finish due to my federal surplus running out. It was based off of my credit. I was approved but they never told me I would have a cap. And it wasnt a lump sum of money, it was always by each semester (note that I was paying out of pocket to live on campus at the time as well, and put food in the tummy and gas and car expense, federal loans don't cover housing for universities, which meant I had to work full time as well as attend full time so that I could receive aid) and all the credit I had, being as I'm only 23 now, was 2 credit cards fully paid off, and a current car loan, which I had never been late on (also note that I had no co signer for any loans, and all I got scholarship wise was 3,000 for my grandfather being a vet and me being adopted) that being said, I reached my cap and I had no other option but to A) pay out of pocket, yeah right!! or B) drop out and work multi jobs to just pay the minimum INTEREST!!! Not even the loan, just the interest accumulated. At the time I was 60k in debt, now I'm down 10k to 50k. I'm sure ive missed tons of info, but you should see the picture from here. Cant go back because I have no way to pay for it. And I could go to a community college and just get my General Reqs and get a certificate, but I have no time being as I have to pay so much for the loans already accumulated and plus ive already done all that, and MY FUCKING CREDITS WONT TRANSFER!!! ha thats another loooong stry, so just take my word man.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19366168 - 01/03/14 10:34 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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mindOmy said: So long story short, I want to break into the restaurant/food industry and being as I have no working experience
you wait until they're closed, jimmy the door and then help yourself, make sure they have a bar, liquor is the way to go if you're breaking in
HAHAHA! THERE WE GO! Finally someone caught onto the misleading title 
Nice to meet ya Prisoner#1, hope ta see you around the forums, thanks for dropping in!!
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19366177 - 01/03/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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What about grants? Forget loans...try grants. Or write more papers to get more scholorships? I don't know man, there's a LOT of financial aid for those who actually try to get it.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19366255 - 01/03/14 11:00 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Before I go any further, let me remind you that this oh so great country is in a debt that will never be repaid, (((18,000,000,000,000+)))even if china did try to buy us out and turn the land into a 5,000 mile wide sweat shop, thanks to good ol kids like me who cant afford to pay this shit back. (and military and prisons....bllaaa bllaa haha you get the point)
glass is half-full kinda guy I see..but man, theres only so much you can do before you go insane. Its just a matter of how bad you want it(and if you want to pretend to see past all the bullshit), and well, I obviously didn't have the triumph to excel to those necessities. I blame myself partially YES but also, society has a piss poor way of PROPERLY informing its future generations of whats deemed morally correct and incorrect. Location plays a huge role in that as well, but then again, what doesn't.
So, enough about loans and school, past is past and theres nothing you can do about it except learn from mistakes and failures. I'm here to talk about the food industry for cryin out loud not about future school endeavors. Thanks again though for the trip down memory lane.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
#19366319 - 01/03/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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I just think you should strive to do something better than the restaurant industry. Ambition. Someone mentioned working for a catering company...?
Maybe it's just because I'm bipolar and I fucking hate customers...but I can't handle that kind of work. It's way too stressful.
What were you majoring in when you were in school? Is it something that has plentiful entry level jobs? There's no reason you can't get a job doing something and apply for scholarships at the same time. I mean, you didn't FINISH school so you can't say that a college education is useless.
What I've found is that it's REALLY easy to get into the restaurant industry...but in order to be a server, you have to already have experience serving. Nobody is going to hire someone to be a server without having experience serving. "How do I get experience if I don't have experience?" Good question, it's a fucking slippery slope.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19366348 - 01/03/14 11:22 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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occollegeboi said: I just think you should strive to do something better than the restaurant industry.
For reals.
I mean one can make some good money waiting tables at a classy joint. But that'w all you are going to do, and that's allt he experince you are going to get. Of course you could move into bar tending...
Front side at a restarount should be a lay over to something else.
Back side shoud be a lay over as well unl;ess you like shitty hours, shitty pay and crappy bosses.
I mean, see what it did to my spelling.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: occollegeboi]
#19366380 - 01/03/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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Oh totally bro I agree with you 100%! I do need to strive for something better than that, its just Im trying to rebuild my social skills up as well. And I'm not saying its useless, I would have looved to finish more than anything!!
And hey I understand about the customer, in that aspect I am on board with you 100% again, I'm just trying a different path that I haven't been down before, and possibly it will lead me to something new.. plus I would enjoy the satisfaction have having tips in my pocket, just so I am assured my baby will have the necessities she needs every night.
(just so you are aware, this was not a child of my offspring, but my girlfriends daughter who I see as my own blood, and has no father to take care of her. Again another fucked up story for another time haha, its like living in the twilight zone man.)
I was studying Audio Engineering. 9/10 times, you get into the industry through an internship(working in studio or with a firm), but I cant work for no pay at this point in my life, you feel me?
Seriously your a trooper for sticking it out this long though ha, I appreciate it more than you know. You shall receive transcendence on your deathbed my friend. Have a good evening. Shut eye is calling me.
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: 4runner]
#19367953 - 01/04/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Back side shoud be a lay over as well unl;ess you like shitty hours, shitty pay and crappy bosses.
Every restaurant, every time
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Re: Breaking Into The Restaurant....Industry [Re: mindOmy]
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mindOmy said: So long story short, I want to break into the restaurant/food industry and being as I have no working experience
you wait until they're closed, jimmy the door and then help yourself, make sure they have a bar, liquor is the way to go if you're breaking in
HAHAHA! THERE WE GO! Finally someone caught onto the misleading title 
Nice to meet ya Prisoner#1, hope ta see you around the forums, thanks for dropping in!!
I worked with a guy in an upscale establishment when I was 16, he got fired and about 2 weeks later he broke in and stole all the liquor. he might not have been caught but being the retarded cokehead he was he used his ID to cut lines out on the bar and snort them in some sort of act of defiance and he left it and his wallet behind like a tard.
the title made me think of him
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