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Offlinerecalcitrant
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Best visuals strains. (Official FAQ thread)
    #1936447 - 09/20/03 09:19 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I suffer from bad trip syndrom. I go into introspective nightmares frequently, going over the lessons of past trips, remembering all sorts of bad things.

this question has been asked alot, i know. Everyone is different, i know. they all have psilocybin, i know.

but IYHO, is there a specific strain that is less "thinky" and more "visual"


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1936712 - 09/20/03 11:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Heh, They are ALL "thinky".

I recomend some Pans for you, if you are up for a challenge?

p.s. Good to see you around!!

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1936830 - 09/21/03 12:21 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I might be able to give some advice which could be helpful...

On my last trip, I found that focusing your attention on something 'external' kept the internal psycho-analyzation and mind-fuck away, or to a minimum.  Keeping your hands busy playing with something, etc. 

We (my boyfriend and I) wanted a more visual and external trip, so to prevent the internal plunge we purchased several trip toys which we explored and played with during our trip.  There was practically no mind-fuck at all since we made a point to focus on the 'external'. 

Visual's were out the roof though.  This could work for you, if you make a point to keep everything external and not get caught up in any sneaky thoughts. 

We played with glow-sticks, water, putty, roses, apples...and were listening to a lively soundtrack (shpongle) so it worked out quite nicely.  We were rewarded with many intense visuals out of this world, and it felt nice to be in complete control of our trip.  Maybe worth giving a try? 

Hope that helps a little :smile:

-ShadeGirl 

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1937075 - 09/21/03 02:06 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocybin is psilocybin as you say but perhaps Philosophers stones (psilocybe mexicana type) could be what you're looking for.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1937631 - 09/21/03 10:35 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i found stones quite sorta thinky, fair amount of visuals too.
all shrooms contain the same chemicals blah blah blah before anyone says anything.

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OfflineFrank_Loyd_Wrong
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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Oook]
    #1937693 - 09/21/03 11:08 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I used to get wrapped up in scary or overwhelming thoughts, but on my last mushroom trip I learned how to overcome it very easily. We were all just sitting around and 2 of the people were new to this, and we were just awaiting the effects. It was starting to hit me really hard in the bad way though. I relized I was starting to head in the wrong or "bad trip" direction. So I just said screw that and got up and started dancing along with the music! (we were listening to the golden dawn- "power plant" cd. awesome late 60's psych) And when I started dancing I was in the clear!!! My mind was free of those earlier thoughts and it cleared the way for one of the best trips I've ever had! Dancing just took my mind off things and made me force myself to have a good time! So next time just start dancing!

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Frank_Loyd_Wrong]
    #1937952 - 09/21/03 01:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

A good way to keep cool is smoke herb, and if you don't do that drink some beers you probably won't feel them. Take control in your mind, fuck a bad trip! :wink:


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: SJR] * 1
    #1938153 - 09/21/03 02:57 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

beer with any psychedelic is gross

and in some cases dangerous


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1938806 - 09/21/03 08:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I always drink beer with mushrooms - never had a problem there. The best way to get over the initial anxiety of a large trip is a few beers at the start so that your completely relaxed.
Ive always found the pans to be a milder experience - less anxiety, but i wont go into my tryptophan theories today...


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Zen Peddler] * 1
    #1944146 - 09/23/03 11:50 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i think about what other people say and watch their behavior. my surroundings, etc..., a lot of times im left speechless because im processing so much.

mushies open up a new protol for communication and understanding for me. When two people are at interacting on mushies, there is synergy.

call me crazy, I sense peoples energy sometimes when I dont even know I'm around them. This is just an example of one of my spiritual gifts which I like to call them. Something clicks in my mind, i get a thought, a recollection of a sort and sure enough...they appear. Its not strong, its not always consistent but maybe it is. Mushies have expanded my mind more than I can just mention in a thread...enuf rambling. maybe ill continute this in another thread?

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Twista]
    #2222691 - 01/06/04 09:29 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Twista
"I sense peoples energy sometimes when I dont even know I'm around them. This is just an example of one of my spiritual gifts which I like to call them."
Hahahahah good to see that your so called spiritual gifts dont include modesty


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: chaosgenerator]
    #2222890 - 01/06/04 11:11 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

The best solution for that is the Shrooms it self , the Ganoderma lucidium , aka Reishi/ling zhi, is excelent for that, I am chinese medicine practitioner( acupunture, fitotherapy stuff), the ling zhi helps to restore and liver chi, that is dramatically depleted by mind altering drugs, to ensure a good trip nothing is better then a lot ling zhi teas, the ling zhi is the immotality mushrooms  it do not have any side effects, grow some and start to drink daily, and you will only have good trips, and good mud all day :smile:

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2223464 - 01/06/04 02:39 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

  ^^^ sounds interesting dude, can you tell us more?

Does it work for depression also?  Is it expensive? Does the tea taste nasty?

Curious minds want to know!
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OfflineNorthernsoul
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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2223561 - 01/06/04 03:21 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

recalcitrant said:
I suffer from bad trip syndrom. I go into introspective nightmares frequently, going over the lessons of past trips, remembering all sorts of bad things.

this question has been asked alot, i know. Everyone is different, i know. they all have psilocybin, i know.

but IYHO, is there a specific strain that is less "thinky" and more "visual" 




Its not as simple as changing the strain. And you cant have specificaly taylored trip simply by taking this strain and a little bit of that strain. Like: "yeah, Ill have 1 Thilland Lipa for some floaty feeling, with a few Equadorians for visuals, and just a tad of B+ for some  "thinky"  feelings"...LOL, I WISH!   :shake:
  Think about Dumbo the Elephant from the Diseny movie. They said: "heres a magical feather, it will make you fly" In actuality it was just an ordinary feather, and gave Dumbo the confidence he needed, it wasnt magical at all.
The same happens with muchrooms. Someone can say: "here, these will make you more "thinky" and happy, no bad trip." ...and you may just have a good trip because it's basicaly all in your head. It has NOTHING to do with the type you ingest!

Hope this helps :wink:




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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2224033 - 01/06/04 06:58 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I have never had beer with shrooms, but whenever I drink vodka or any other type of hard alcohol while I am coming down off of a good shroom trip it will bring my peak back up and sometimes I can stretch my trips up to 11 hours by doing this. Although, once I went crazy and decided to get alcohol poisoning while shrooming and that truly did suck ass, but besides that I think alcohol + shrooms + weed is a very good combo.

Btw, P. cyanes are a good visual strain for me, but some trips are different than others and I sometimes get more "thinky" on them than visual.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2224395 - 01/06/04 09:41 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe it's better to concentrate on why you're feeling sad and depressed instead of trying to ignore the feelings. Just a thought.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: doop]
    #2224541 - 01/06/04 10:46 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

doop said:
alcohol + shrooms + weed is a very good combo.






No thanks. I don't want to die anymore with shrooms + weed, haha. But I know it has to do with my absolute zero tolerance to weed.

Drinking a bit while waiting for the trip is always good for me tho..

.fs.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Northernsoul]
    #2224560 - 01/06/04 10:52 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Northernsoul is dead on. It's all psychology.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2224668 - 01/06/04 11:24 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I have to disagree. I've heard this arguement many times.

The only strains I've tried are PF and B+. I never experienced intense visuals with PF. That strain makes me very contemplative and introspective, which I prefer.

B+ gives me awesome visuals.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2225010 - 01/07/04 02:40 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of good ideas. To directly answer your question I would say Equadors.
But that is a rather shallow answer. Similarly to what EllemyshShade said
I also think you should stay active; however instead of playing with toys
take the time to plan out a trip in the most amazing and safe environment
you can imagine. If you are wandering through places in nature that demand
your attention due to their unmatched beauty, you might leave your other
problems at the door. However, on the flip side, like Smoker For Peace said
you have to face what is presented by the mushrooms. That is far more
beneficial and amazing than any visual you will ever see. But do what ever
it is you have to do.
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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: HATU]
    #2227695 - 01/08/04 08:02 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Ling Zhi is very good for depression,

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: catalyst777]
    #2227775 - 01/08/04 08:53 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Mazatapec have given me the most spiritual visuals.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2228152 - 01/08/04 11:57 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Psilocybeingzz said:
beer with any psychedelic is gross

and in some cases dangerous




Oh god no, I have ate a few doses and drank a case of Coronas. I don't even weigh 150 pounds.

Drink all you want, you are just wasting the booze though.

As far as "bad trips". You need a fun trip buddy. Mine is awesome, you couldn't have a bad trip around this kid in a million years.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2228322 - 01/08/04 12:52 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I would greatly recommend the pan Cyancean strains for the most visual trips. Eaten fresh is better for most of that psilocin is retained. As far as Cubies are concerened, I hvae heard that the Amazonian is the best Visual out of them all....but if you ask me, a Cube is a Cube.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: orizon]
    #2228338 - 01/08/04 12:55 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

LIBERTY CAPS PRODUCE THE MOST CARTOONY VISUALS`
AND FOR THE CORONA SHROOMER,

Alcohol brings one down very fast fromt he shroom high and ruins it.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2230279 - 01/09/04 02:32 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

No way - alcohol has no effect - and it actually mitigates the hypoglycemia and possible anxiety of the shroom 'come-up'. I often drink with my shrooms - once the shroom kicks in the booze wares off...


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2230311 - 01/09/04 02:57 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

gettin off topic but IMO a few beers might be beneficial for the onset or comedown of a trip but as far as drinkin eneouph to get slightly drunk...I would'nt recommend it. The two just dont seem to mix well in my stomach....and besides there are so many other things which are good for mixin with shrooms such as weed and nitrous. I know from previous posts that MJ is'nt a fan of poly drug use and I agree to an extent that there is nothing like a clean spiritual mushroom trip....but I as well as many people on this forum are in the experimental stage rather than a wise veteran shroomer who has been shot across the universe a few times. Personally I like smokin a little weed and hitting some nitrous with my shrooms but everyone has there preferences.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: orizon]
    #2230504 - 01/09/04 07:03 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

>No way - alcohol has no effect - and it actually mitigates the hypoglycemia and possible anxiety of the shroom 'come-up'. I often drink with my shrooms - once the shroom kicks in the booze wares off...

Actualy I read somewhere that achol surpresses the firing of neurons in the brain,
Which would shorten the effect of shrooms .

As for libs mmme there amazing the best shrooms I have ever had, Just wish they could be grown easily.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2232424 - 01/09/04 10:54 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Reading these stupid message boards and listenin to the beatles is perfect for me

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2232431 - 01/09/04 10:59 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

and smokin some herb, watchin the food channel :crazy2: :wtf: :shocked: :lol:

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: nismo]
    #2232465 - 01/09/04 11:16 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

as i felt myself slip into madness, lookin at some weird art, i thought, "this couldnt happen to me"
but this art is awesome to chill out lookin at it - http://www.angelfire.com/ri/pit/index.html
and more beatles

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: HATU]
    #2234338 - 01/11/04 03:55 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

If i smoke weed i feel myself going into a huge headfuck, but with shrooms i'm always fine. But with weed i have had weird experiences a lot worse than mushrooms.

i think interpretation of the trip is the biggest problem, people often interperate feelings as being negative when its just really nothing much than a harmless feeling. Also i think people just have to take a big deep breath or many at that, shallow breathing which basically decreases levels of oxygen to the brain for one makes the heart race faster, causing anxiety and negative out of the blue thoughts which cause even more anxiety sending someone into a bad trip.

ative is good and sure is fun which is important but i think during a trip one needs to have a chill and relax time. When i do this the visuals increase and with the help of music increases even more. I do think when being active or even concentrating on something eg. I often get on my turntables and have a mix, my visuals almost go away completely but if i get off them relax for a minute their back.

As i've learnt with weed, the way to avoid negative thoughts is to take away what is associated with it. Often tripping with other people can cause people to go into bad trips i reckon.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: catalyst777]
    #2235113 - 01/11/04 04:46 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

As you can see by the number of different answers, disagreements, opinions, there IS NO set reference as to what strain does more or less of anything.
Its like if I were to say: "Coors gives me a more of a horney drunk, Budweiser gives you a more energetic clear thinking drunk, and Miller-Lifgt is more of a fall on your ass kind of funny drunk


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: HATU]
    #2235899 - 01/11/04 11:56 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Im sorry I cant really reccommend any good strains that I dont think have mindfuck but I can say that I have found a way to avoid it myself that I personally use.

In my opinion the key to avoiding mindfuck truly is keeping your attention on something else , whenever im staring at something its less time my brain has the power to start th inking intense thoughts that lead to introspective thoughts.... everytime you start having a bad trip just make it your last time... so tell yourself to enjoy it because its your last.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: aguynameddan]
    #2246496 - 01/16/04 03:21 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

go with PESA.

you'll be happy
its not that 'thinky'

very pleasant light trip.... the strain does make a different...equador gives me delusions...everyhting else works fine. :smile:

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Elemicin]
    #4618629 - 09/04/05 03:04 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

But WHY avoid "mind-fuck"? I don't think that it's "healthy" to take psychedelic drugs - especially mushrooms - for pure pleasure. It's profanation of a religious tool or even sacrament. I know that I may sound strange but why do you take mushrooms when you have less "mind-fuck" LSD?

I understand that some of you can be an "adventurous" types but I'm that "shamanic-mystical" type and visuals are pretty - right, but they aren't goal. If someone has a very intense introspective session than that person should accept what she learned about her self - not try to avoid the truth. You cannot escape from it on the long run.

I hope that I didn't sounded to fanatical. Clearly I'm taking this very serious. I respect mushrooms and I feel that treating them as toys is a serious profanation. You all are going to hell :wink:
OK, that last one was a joke :P


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Kras]
    #4618876 - 09/04/05 08:52 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I for one do not consider shrooms to be any kind of sacrement for myself.
The experiences they provide are awe inspiring to be sure, but I place no value on spiritual explainations of such events.

The body is chemical in nature.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #4619133 - 09/04/05 11:07 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Bio-chemistry can explain many things. Astronomy also. Still there is the magickal side of reality that is beyond science. There are esoteric experiences that cannot be explained by some substances traveling through your veins. Especially if you can trigger them without taking anything.

Of course, you need some level of magickal senses developed to notice or even trigger some things.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Kras]
    #4619420 - 09/04/05 12:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

hella distraction is key. and whenever you start getting bogged down with thoughts, having a change in environments ie: a diff room, goin outside for a smoke, takin a piss. anything to distract ya helps wonders. sometimes i totally forget what to do and how to act.

i also for one just rely on lower doses to get the job done, that way if i do fail at staying distracted its not the end of the world. simply inconvenient. wish i could get my thoughts out better than this. also, only strain i can talk about are tazmanians which i thought were very visual up til about 3hours then the thoughts would come.
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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: swiftrance]
    #4621603 - 09/05/05 02:20 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

"USER DECIDED TO DELETE IT"

The above combination is very dangerous.You must pay real attention to dosage.
I have never tried it but I am planning to do it.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: barisk]
    #4621819 - 09/05/05 07:15 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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MaoI+MDMA+Phalaris extract(DMT)+Mushroom+Morning Glory Extract(LSA)+Diazepam(or you can also use alcohol if your stomach is powerfull to take your anxiety of combining these)




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Thatst's very dangerous and stupid. I'm sure you will feel like shit to say the least. Why the hell would you even consider such a retarded combo?

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4621858 - 09/05/05 08:00 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

no shit....

leave mushrooms to be mushrooms. your trip is always what you make of it, and the power of concentration is great.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: TheHook]
    #4621927 - 09/05/05 08:48 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Personally, I think the MDMA is the only dumb part of that combo, as it is COMPLETELY CONTRA-INDICATED. You will go into hypertensive crisis.

All the rest sounds fine, as I assume the diazepam is to come down. But then again, I dont know how they react with MAOIs. Just use the rue, mg, and mush, you will be straight.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4622596 - 09/05/05 01:17 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

not to mention that maoi's and alcohol is perhaps one of the worst combo's you can do. If someone is stupid enough to drink alcohol at all, to hell with em, just one less dumb fuck in this world.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: yousuck]
    #4622602 - 09/05/05 01:19 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Just eat 14 grams dry Copes...

You should get some visuals :P


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #4624259 - 09/06/05 12:58 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

If you know little chemistry of drugs that make you open new doors of perception you could see that all of these are somewhat metabolic pathways of tryptophan and such.
As you could understand I said that it is very dangerous combination and it can kill you.If you are not retarded and can calculate the grams and miligrams you can easily make dosage.
And I don't think it is not very very dangerous if you saw people using street heroin and injecting their blood stream.Or using DXM,PCP,biperiden or other anticholinergics to trip.
Because they are all act as dopamine agonists and changing the way of serotonin works as their own ways.You should be very very high not as you took only one of these.
As I say I didn't tried it all but I am thinking to try it as I using them as very very carefully about dosage.
If you are retarded or don't know about chemistry or don't know about medicine do not try it.
I am repeating do not try it.
And yes combining maoi with alcohol is dangerous.If it is wine or athor fermented drink or cheese.That can cause hypertensive crisis.Say sth if you know your shit.
Combining anything with maoi is dangerous

Do not try this.
Do not try this.
I wrote that only because of if I can help you idea of it.But now i am regretfull to wrote that.
Do not try this.


And the last thing I want to say is :
DO NOT TRY THIS


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Re: best visuals strains. *DELETED* [Re: barisk]
    #4625120 - 09/06/05 10:38 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: sever]
    #4739828 - 10/01/05 01:52 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I have read that P. Baeocystis is a more visual shroom. But then I have also read that Baeocystine and Norbaeocystine effects the heart rate in a negative way.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: shymanta]
    #4740101 - 10/01/05 04:28 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Where did you read that?

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Northernsoul]
    #4740752 - 10/01/05 11:53 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Northernsoul said:
As you can see by the number of different answers, disagreements, opinions, there IS NO set reference as to what strain does more or less of anything.
Its like if I were to say: "Coors gives me a more of a horney drunk, Budweiser gives you a more energetic clear thinking drunk, and Miller-Lifgt is more of a fall on your ass kind of funny drunk





Well take that to another level, don't just say beers, but think about all different type of alcohol. Being drunk on wine is certianly different than being drunk on beer, or muchless vodka.

Granted its all the same chemical, there is something about the accopanyment of other chemicals that changes up the whole experience. Perhaps certian strains could be more visual due to different nature of the organisation of the organism.

Just something to think about.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #4742979 - 10/01/05 10:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think i was on a site that was selling the mushroom and they said it was more visual. Could have just been a sales pitch. The other I read while researching the previous, I think it was on erowid.

Mushrooms have varying amounts of these four chemicals:
4-PO-DMT (4-phosphoryloxy,n n,dimethyltryptamine)
4-HO-DMT (4-hydroxy,n n,dimethyltryptamine)
4-PO-MT (4-phosphoryloxy,n n,dimethyltryptamine)
4-PO-T (4-phosphoryloxy,n n,methyltryptamine)

The way I figure it, different combinations of these constituents will produce different effects. This is where legal research would come in handy.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: shymanta]
    #4743112 - 10/01/05 10:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

hey man i live in tasmania and cuibensis does NOT grow wild here.
Repeat... DOES NOT

there are only a couple of active ones. never cubes u gotta go north for that

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: indica]
    #5153297 - 01/08/06 04:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I definitely advise against drinking alcohol with mushrooms. If anything it will put you in a worse place. Alcohol is a depressant and can cause your mood to become agitated or angry. Alcohol also dehydrates you and will not help with any nausea or stomach problems you may have. You always need to be careful and knowledgeable when combining chemicals.
If you want to combine something with mushrooms to make the trip a little more relaxing you can try dosing with a small amount of a benzodiazapine (xanax, valium). Though these are depressants as well, these drugs are commonly used to help with anxiety, and are used in hospitals to bring someone under the effects of a psychedelic, down from their trip. If you take a fairly small dose, may be 1/2 to 1/3rd of a bar of xanax, it will take the edge off a bit. I tend to trip this way if I am going to be around a lot of people to keep me relaxed. Doing this may also cause some of the affects of the mushrooms (visuals etc) to be more subtle. I know quite a few people who prefer to only trip with a benzo. Please do your own research regarding this before trying it. Every individual is different and has different reactions to certain drugs. This is just my suggestion and what seems to work best for me.

The other option is tripping alone or with one other person, and sorting through some of these things. They are probably consistently popping up in your mind for a reason, and coming to terms with them might help. You just need to choose when the best time for you to confront these issues are.

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #5153298 - 01/08/06 05:01 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

personally i think any differences between trips on the same species of mushroom are due to mindset and setting. the differences in the ratios of alkaloids from strain to strain are negligible.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: alsey]
    #5155088 - 01/08/06 04:39 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

2001 a space odyssey. It will be all you can think about during and after the movie.

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Re: Best visuals strains. (Official FAQ thread) *DELETED* [Re: recalcitrant]
    #5254421 - 02/02/06 09:07 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Best visuals strains. (Official FAQ thread) [Re: itsbreck]
    #5255413 - 02/02/06 01:46 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

last time i trippped and it started going bad and my friend past out so i had no one to talk to i just put on a childs movie. you know somehting funny, happy, and very easy to understand (i put on mouse hunt) and with in a few minutes my trip was pleasurable again

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: HATU]
    #9180445 - 11/03/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybin and psilocin are still psilocybin and psilocin....

Saying a different strain gives different/more/less visuals is all in your head, literally. Expectations and mindset matter most. This is all based on using the same dosage of course. That in itself can vary quite a bit as well.

You might as well say that a Evian water is substantially different than HEB brand water...it's still water and they affect you the same.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: therapture]
    #9180456 - 11/03/08 10:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

OOOPS....damn, I accidentally posted to an old thread without looking at the date :tongue2: Sorry...


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Re: Best visuals strains. (Official FAQ thread) [Re: recalcitrant]
    #9180600 - 11/03/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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recalcitrant said:
I suffer from bad trip syndrom. I go into introspective nightmares frequently, going over the lessons of past trips, remembering all sorts of bad things.

this question has been asked alot, i know. Everyone is different, i know. they all have psilocybin, i know.

but IYHO, is there a specific strain that is less "thinky" and more "visual" 




For me, its mind over matter. I suppose I have lead so many others through bad trips that I have come to hear my own calming words through a bad trips. Its odd, but it has happened. Ill start a thread on that, maybe so I dont hijack your thread.

As for a species, psilo all does the same thing, its just a matter of strength. If its got psilo, thats whats affecting you.

I suggest trying a good low dose of mescaline and see how you dig that. Its my favorite, since im a "bad tripper" myself.

edit: crap. I did the same thing someone before me just did. Sorry.


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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: RuNE]
    #20210009 - 07/01/14 10:08 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I have researched them a lot and can say that sit is a def yes to all.those questions. You can also get ganoderma coffee online ( prettyvtasty) it has a lot of bemefits but migrh make you feel shitty for a day or two( toxins leaving your body)

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Re: best visuals strains. [Re: Northernsoul]
    #24994945 - 02/14/18 08:39 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I like that

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