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Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste
    #19363846 - 01/03/14 03:15 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Habitat:
Growing in small rings/clusters but not sharing bases, not tufted. Growing in PNW (far Northern CA, Humboldt County) redwood forest beneath conifers, near roots.

Gills:
White, waxy, decurrent, broad, average to subdistant spacing. Waviness appeared after 2 days indoors, gills are straight when fresh.

Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
L: 6-14cm, D: 1-3cm, pale yellow, like sun-bleached cowhide, hollow, tough, fibrous, and with slightly wooly/fibrous features.


Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
3-5" (7.5-16cm), whitish to pale yellow (sunbleached cowhide), convex to flat with an umbilicus and distinctive spade-like notch in the cap (like the suit from a deck of cards). Dry, tiny flat scales (<1mm), some debris stuck to cap, not hygrophorous (no color change dry to wet). White, soft flesh, sweet taste, no milk. Cap exceeds gills, consistent color. Photos below

Spore print color:
White to ashy-white. I thought the shrooms were growing in ashes, but it's a boatload of spores they've dumped.

Bruising:
No bruising, no color change except yellowing after drying for 2 days indoors.

Other information:
No veil, annulus, or volva present. Spores elliptical, smaller than average. Can't see surface features (Hey, not bad for a $7 scope from goodwill lol)

Goal: ID positively so I can eat them, if they're edible.
Secondary goal: Figure out what the heck this notch feature is called. This is the second mushroom I haven't been able to ID that has this feature.



Edited by Weaselbones314 (01/03/14 03:16 PM)


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Weaselbones314]
    #19364041 - 01/03/14 03:57 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

The notches may be malformation. Have you considered Clitocybe/Lepista?


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: MidnightCity]
    #19364928 - 01/03/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Or maybe Melanoleuca? :shrug:


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: MidnightCity]
    #19365695 - 01/03/14 08:47 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

MidnightCity said:
The notches may be malformation. Have you considered Clitocybe/Lepista?





If it's malformation, it's consistent among all of the specimens I saw.

I looked into clitocybe and that seems like a likely match, but also gymnopilus maybe. Mushrooms Demystified lumps a lot of "light spored miscellaneous mushrooms" into one section.

I'll take a look at them again and at the other poster's suggestion. I hope they're edible. I've never had a sweet mushroom, and there are a couple lbs in the woods.


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Weaselbones314]
    #19365821 - 01/03/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

I'm thinking now that it's a clitocybe gibba

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/infundibulicybe_gibba.html

The only mismatch is the taste. Every description says clitocybes do not have a distinctive taste, bu this one definitely does taste sweet.

Hmmm. but the size of the stem also doesn't match.


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Byrain]
    #19366773 - 01/04/14 03:29 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Byrain said:
Melanoleuca



:whathesaid:


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Weaselbones314]
    #19367367 - 01/04/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Weaselbones314 said:

I looked into clitocybe and that seems like a likely match, but also gymnopilus maybe.




Gymnopilus has been ruled out by the white spore print.


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Rod Tulloss said:

The bulb is the bulb.

The volva is the volva.

They have a very long term realtionship, but they’re “just friends.”


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Weaselbones314]
    #19368484 - 01/04/14 02:09 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Thanks for the additional responses.

It looks like this is the best match: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/melanoleuca_cognata.html


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Weaselbones314]
    #19372820 - 01/05/14 12:53 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

Blah. Now I doubt that ID. They taste like dirty feet (bitter) when sauteed. Guess I'll toss them. I wish I had a real microscope. Maybe when I get a real job....


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Re: Help me ID this mushie? Weird notch in cap, sweet taste [Re: Weaselbones314]
    #19373987 - 01/05/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 25 days ago)

If it is Melanoleauca, it could be undescribed...


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