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Trouble figuring out/integrating experience
    #19363794 - 01/03/14 03:03 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

So not to long ago I had one of the most real experiences I've ever had. I got this amazing acid, paid a lot for it but it's the best I've ever had, no taste, clean WoW.
I took 3-4 (UN-perfed or marked). Just to let you know that a half a hit of this stuff is equal to about 3-4 of the average I've seen over the past 10 yrs. anyway about 4 hrs in I saw a particular episode of kids in the hall that had a profound effect on me.  Now I know all of this could've been the CID (plus a few Molly's, and N2O), but even on all of that plus DMT I never experienced anything like this. This one skit came on and it involves an old west farm family whose pa is sick and as the doctor comes and stalls to eat pie and talk to Jr as the daddy is dying, there's a scene where death climbs in the window where pa is and when death comes in there was a red force field that emanated from the screen, and made A certain circular shape as death was on the screen, this field extended into my room where I felt heat, pain, fear as the field passed through me. The field would move depending on, it seemed where deaths view across the room changed (so if the grim reaper looked one way the field would follow). I was so in awe of how real this experience was I would pause it and move about the room and walk through the field experience the sensations it provided. Later in the episode the doctor says something about butchering and cooking a chicken, but the field extended into the whole room, this time I could feel the animals around me being butchered.  I could smell the other animals and then the heat of them being cooked. I watched this episode many times and the force fields were so intense and consistent, that I was really kind of freaked the fuck out, and am still trying to figure out if this was anything more than drugs or was something else deeper happening. It's really weird I've taken doses close to this of this CID plus Molly plus N2O and DMT (all at the same time) and that didn't even compare to this experience....I can't think of anything more plausible than drugs, I've kicked around the videos I saw where all master records are cursed by illuminati witches before release, and possibly in this state I could see a manifestation of the spell....or that somehow I was given a glance into my future as a souls after death if I didn't become closer to God. But ultimately I got nothing that really explains what I was experiencing.  Any ideas, or comments?


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #19364952 - 01/03/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

The OP was kind of a shot in the dark, was curious if anyone has had similar experiences and what they took away with that lesson. Or if anyone has any opinions on what may have happened. I would normally write it off as drug delusions (as I've taken all of this together and in higher doses and smoked dmt on top of that (Which I didn't smoke until later when the force fields had gone away and the detesters didn't make them re-appear, and I've tried watching the same sketch relatively sober with nothing extraordinary occurring) but not only were there fields encompassing all senses (except taste), the angel of death field looked red, pink and white but translucent and inside the part of covered  by the rind described above (pink, red, black white) the field was black on the side nearest to death from my POV and the room was normal outside of this, opposite to the TV, and when I'm this field the exact thing happened upon re-watching and pausing the show while moving about the room and passing through the fields experiencing horrid pain, a very real heat sensation, the longer I stayed in I thought I may actually have burn marks, partially paralysis, hearing people screaming, moaning (like I was in hell...), when the field moved across and through my body there was nothing until I saw and then first felt the sadness and fear then worse as it took over my whole body, and experienced that which was described above, caught in its grips to be this until the field past through me ( which could take a while, it took everything in me to break out of its grips to move out of the field. This was the first or second te and I was kind of freaking the fuck out like there was a demon in my house or that I really overdone it this time or I was experiencing something supernatural, all slightly  on earning outcomes.  Nevertheless I had to continue to study what was occurring as best I could. So I did if many more times. At the end of the end of the episode there was a scene where the Dr. was talking about slaughtering and cooking a chicken and before he said anything about  his intentions another field populated the entire room (I think emanating from the TV, and this one just looks like wavy, like in an oven that basically filled the whole room and I can hear other animals being slaughtered, crying out in agony, visions of blood and bone filled my inner eye, I felt the heat so tangible it was indistinguishable from if I had my hand in an over, all of these experiences felt completely genuine, as I was being cooked in an oven I could smell the meat broiling.... It was very troubling to me to this day I think about it a lot. I talked to some people but didn't get past the possible scenarios that I initially came up with... Shamans explain the ayahuasca plane and peyote (and other psychedelics, morning glories; LSA chemical cousin of LSD)) as accessing the spirit realm where communication from beyond helped to make decisions to help the tribe and individual medical needs...so maybe I did access the spirit world and the message through substances and the tv show I was watching at that moment. But what to take away from it? There is a theme of death in these instances, if it was a message I wish it could've been more direct... I've been vegetarian for several years so I don't think it was about my meat consumption...Any thoughts? Insights, anything? Please.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #19365158 - 01/03/14 07:06 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Hard to read this stream of consciousness stuff as a block of text.

Probably harder for us to put your experience into mind from that than it is for you to see what your own mind is telling you.

Space it out a bit.

LEt things become more obvious in their own light.

The you can start to get a sense of the interaction. Meaning is in the interaction more so that the typical symbology.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper] * 2
    #19365431 - 01/03/14 07:54 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

The human brain is a very complex thing. :shrug:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: Icelander]
    #19390566 - 01/08/14 08:51 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I plan to duplicate the experience to see if the same feid emerges and if they do then it may not just be the drugs if they don't then I will chalk it up to a crazy night with Lucy.
I hope they dont come, but if they do I will continue the search for answers...
Will post the results.
Thanks for the comments, I dont think I am much closser to a resolution (if that is even possible), but I appreciate the comments,  so thanks again.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20621232 - 09/26/14 11:59 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Wow what a ride. I know 100% what it was, most won't believe more to come!


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20623172 - 09/26/14 08:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20624178 - 09/27/14 01:24 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow what a ride. I know 100% what it was, most won't believe more to come!




Share it and then defend any wild assertions you might make :thumbup:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: cez]
    #20672489 - 10/07/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Ok God


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672555 - 10/07/14 06:51 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

It included prophecy (fulfilled), the most real sensations ever, and so much synchronicity that coincidence must be ruled out.
I'll get into the whole story when the time is right, suffice it to say I've made some major changes in my life and am weeding out sin in every aspect of my life. It's my last chance to live right and one with God and I will prove I am a changed man!

:smile:

It was very scary but I feel extremely blessed to have God intervene in my life directly and won't fail!

Like I said I probably sound crazy to some and/or stupid to others, but you don't know what I've gone through, and experienced, just keep that in mind before you judge.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672607 - 10/07/14 07:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

when the time is right,

From long experience with such statements here I'm guessing, never. :wink:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672643 - 10/07/14 07:10 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Whilst I'm not doubting your experience, I think it's important to keep in mind hundreds of thousands of trippers experience similar epiphanies and claim divinity.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672767 - 10/07/14 07:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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It included prophecy (fulfilled), the most real sensations ever, and so much synchronicity that coincidence must be ruled out.
I'll get into the whole story when the time is right, suffice it to say I've made some major changes in my life and am weeding out sin in every aspect of my life. It's my last chance to live right and one with God and I will prove I am a changed man!

:smile:

It was very scary but I feel extremely blessed to have God intervene in my life directly and won't fail!

Like I said I probably sound crazy to some and/or stupid to others, but you don't know what I've gone through, and experienced, just keep that in mind before you judge.




When will the time be right to share this experience?  What is there to fail in?  I don't think this human experience is a pass-fail thing..


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: liquidlounge]
    #20672776 - 10/07/14 07:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I understand the skepticism and you are right I may never (for whatever reason) post all of the details here... although I absolutely DO plan on doing so somewhat soon, the hold up is things I need to do before hand, get certain family stuff worked out, I'm sure you don't see the connection but there are some and I must do them first.

And as for my claims, me being a scientifically minded individual I understand if you doubt, as I have doubted others making similar claims.
But as for my certainty about what happened I am extremely certain that it was the Holy Spirit and am so certain that if I turn out to be wrong I would probably commit myself because this sounds absurd and really threw me for a loop (over the time span these connections with the Devine occurred) because it was so crazy and didn't make sense and it wasn't until I looked at it from a particular vantage point, that included God intervening, did it all fall into line, and it was so powerful when I realized what had happened I immediately started doing what I could to change my life for the better.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672813 - 10/07/14 07:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Although I do find it amusing that some people are on board when you start talking about transdimensional self transforming machine elves who may be aliens but once God is brought up they are like hey dude your losing me! Lol
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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672826 - 10/07/14 07:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: liquidlounge]
    #20672882 - 10/07/14 08:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

any particular reason for you thinking it is god and not the machine elves?
sounds like machine elves to me


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20672905 - 10/07/14 08:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

PM me and I may be able to recommend a good mental facility.  When the time comes and you're ready of course. :satansmoking:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: Icelander]
    #20676356 - 10/08/14 05:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Haha, I understand your skepticism and it's a bold claim I know.
However depending on your POV (if you are a believer or atheist or other), it may not be as far fetched as it sounds.
Prophecy was a large part of several faiths...why would direct contact happen then but not now?


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: Icelander]
    #20676386 - 10/08/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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The human brain is a very complex thing. :shrug:




Some people's are.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20676387 - 10/08/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Because it didn't happen then?:wink:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: Icelander]
    #20676500 - 10/08/14 05:44 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

That's why I said depending on your POV. So are you atheist or agnostic (or other)?
How do you know it didn't happen then or now or ever?


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: Icelander]
    #20676739 - 10/08/14 06:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Because it didn't happen then?:wink:




Icelander I like your posts and think you're a pretty smart guy. And I also know you like to mess with people so I don't know if you were being serious or joking in a way about this.
If you were just joking in the quote then feel free to ignore my last post with questions for you, if you want, as I may have made the mistake of taking you seriously. :smile:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20676759 - 10/08/14 06:34 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

so you are not having trouble figuring out and integrating your experience about the shit with  god or machine elves you are just a bit challenged by other people not wanting to swallow your story in the form it is offered.

what does that say about the title of this thread being a bit of a bait and switch?


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    #20676863 - 10/08/14 06:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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so you are not having trouble figuring out and integrating your experience about the shit with  god or machine elves you are just a bit challenged by other people not wanting to swallow your story in the form it is offered.

what does that say about the title of this thread being a bit of a bait and switch?




Well actually if you look at when the original post was posted, and the time stamp where I say I figured it out you will see that the title is not a bait and switch as it took several more instances of 'contact' after the first post to figure out and integrate what was happening to me and when I figured it out I posted again (look at the time stamps, when I say I know what happened you will see over half a year has passed).


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20677159 - 10/08/14 07:56 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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That's why I said depending on your POV. So are you atheist or agnostic (or other)?
How do you know it didn't happen then or now or ever?




I'm agnostic by your terms, other by the terms on my home planet. :satansmoking:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20678299 - 10/09/14 04:04 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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so you are not having trouble figuring out and integrating your experience about the shit with  god or machine elves you are just a bit challenged by other people not wanting to swallow your story in the form it is offered.

what does that say about the title of this thread being a bit of a bait and switch?




Well actually if you look at when the original post was posted, and the time stamp where I say I figured it out you will see that the title is not a bait and switch as it took several more instances of 'contact' after the first post to figure out and integrate what was happening to me and when I figured it out I posted again (look at the time stamps, when I say I know what happened you will see over half a year has passed).




so the timestamps mean you and god are like peas in a pod?


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: redgreenvines]
    #20680813 - 10/09/14 05:05 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The time stamp means I didn't create the title for bait and switch as you suggested...if I wanted a click bait title I would've chosen something about direct communication with the master of the universe.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20680840 - 10/09/14 05:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Don't mind RGVs he's cynical and bitter due to an aging brain and lack of an unconscious mind. :sad:


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: Icelander]
    #20685520 - 10/10/14 06:57 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a debilitating situation, my condolences... :/


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20685789 - 10/10/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

it's the way I  experience
whatever is in consciousness is experience and vice versa.

I don't believe in sub-experience


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    #20686333 - 10/10/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I believe in sublingual experience  :tunnel:


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    #20686589 - 10/10/14 11:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

A few things that give some background and shed some light on others that've related to an experience like mine (for others, I know what happened, but understand others being skeptical).
Psychedelics have an association with spirituality, and aside from mescaline used by native Americans in religious experience, there are two other churches approved legally for using psychedelics (DMT) in the US, these churches are Christianity based using ayahuasca.  So even by the US govt standards they legally realize that psychedelics have religious value. Also, the Native Americans word for psilocybin containing mushrooms translate to 'flesh of God'.  Before LSD and shrooms were banned there were a few religious experiments (a famous one with Christians in a church given psilocybin, by Leary I think) testing psychedelics and religious ceremony, with astounding results. And since the ban a John Hoskins study showed these experiences have mystical and religious significance.

Also, I would like to point that the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, the group responsible for the acid boom and most of the psychedelic revolution of the 60s and 70s and they believe that the psychedelics were at direct connection to God as quoted by the groups leader the brotherhood is "..a tribe of people who viewed acid as a sacrament, a window into God itself." It is rumored that the tight knit lsd producers in California are remaining Brotherhood members that see this sacrament as essential in enlightening others to God just as it touched their lives in such profound religious ways.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20687696 - 10/11/14 09:31 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

but Jack, that is not light you shed, nor is it even news.

lsd and other psychedelics change consciousness, or state of mind:
there is quite a range of hallucinations in all the senses that result from such changes in state of mind, from hypnagogic through hypnopompic to full on delirium.

maybe you should read Oliver Sacks Hallucinations before you dispense with your process of integration of the drug induced experiences.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: redgreenvines]
    #20688444 - 10/11/14 12:48 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I don't expect you to understand given the scant info I've put on here so far. I need to get some things in order before I post it here. After I put it all put there then we can talk more clearly about this.
Sorry there is a wait, but it's what I feel is right...maybe a month.
And the above was to give those that may not know all the psychedelic and spiritual/religious parallels. This isn't an isolated incident although to the extent it happened it's probably on the more extreme side.


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Re: Trouble figuring out/integrating experience [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #20688459 - 10/11/14 12:51 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

And I've been studying psychedelics for a long time and have had many varied experiences this is something on a whole nother level, and what I experienced was peanuts compared to past experiences and combos of psychs, like high doses of acid and molly then smoking DMT at the peak. This felt realer than waking consciousness, was repeatable, and had prophetic elements that were fulfilled.


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