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bodhisatta 
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Jars will colonize as fast at 75F as they will at 80F
After 83 they taper off and start to slower.
The inside of a jar can be 1-5F warmer during colonization
I would set the incubator at 75F and call it a day.
Don't take my word for it though RR has grown tens of thousands of jars worth of mushrooms spawn.
Also if you're going to use a heat blanket as an incubator which I still strongly suggest you don't you would actually have better luck putting it on top of your jars not under it
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RogerRabbit said: I have found little to no difference in colonization speeds between 75 and 81F. Growth falls off rapidly at 83F and above, not 87F.
That chart above is bogus, period. I have tried dozens of times to duplicate it and it can't be done. It was apparently made by someone who did ONE grow with sloppy note taking, and sent the results to paul. Growth is much slower in cold temperatures until you hit 69F, where it speeds up quite a bit until about 75F, where it remains 'flat' until 81, then is flat again until 83, where it falls off fast beginning at 84. By 'flat' I mean there is no discernible increase or decrease in rate of growth within those ranges. Jars will colonize as fast at 75F as they will at 80F. I've proved this time and time again with every strain in my collection. Growth also falls off rapidly above 84, and this is why so many new folks have problems with incubators set at 86F, and jars that 'won't colonize'. The figures I give are substrate temperatures, not air temperatures. The temp inside the jar is 1 to 5 degrees higher than the surrounding air, depending on where in the colonization cycle the jar is. The heat produced falls off fast as the jar approaches full colonization.
If you live in an igloo,(or near the waterfront) by all means build an incubator, but keep it in the normal room temperature ranges for best results. I see no reason to set one above 80F, and lots of reasons not to. Here's a picture of one of my shelves for colonizing jars. The substrate bags are there because I ran out of room on the other shelf. These are in a room at normal room temperature, and exposed to light nearly all day. I don't even put the pf jars on a top shelf where it's warmer. Of course, I had a good teacher on how to make them up, as everyone will soon know.  RR
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spacechildo
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xBELLSPROUTx said: everything I read is contradictory.....
when you search the forum you can add the "newer then" option to say 2 or 3 years, click the Trusted Cultivator box and you're good to go.
There so many members here giving crappy and outdated advice, no wonder you're confused. You'll soon find out who is trustworthy, check frank horrigan's sig with how he gets his shit done, all you need to know is there!
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cronicr



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everything is contradictory becasue it's simply diffrent strokes for diffrent folks, set your temp to 75 and
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xBELLSPROUTx
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Re: Best Temp?! [Re: cronicr]
#19363513 - 01/03/14 01:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks man
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PussyFart
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spacechildo said: No need for incubating anymore, global warming ftw..
There is no global warming.....we are actually getting colder.
HAving people worry about global warming is just a way for certain people to make more money.
Just like carbon taxes..........There is actually less carbon than 100 years ago, but this does not stop some politicians from using the masses ignorance to their advantage.
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cronicr



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Notahacker420 said:
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spacechildo said: No need for incubating anymore, global warming ftw..
There is no global warming.....we are actually getting colder.
HAving people worry about global warming is just a way for certain people to make more money.
Just like carbon taxes..........There is actually less carbon than 100 years ago, but this does not stop some politicians from using the masses ignorance to their advantage.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Best Temp?! [Re: cronicr]
#19363564 - 01/03/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe in global warming from march to september only.
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xBELLSPROUTx
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so the closest i could get to 75 was 77. i hope this works and thanks for all the help you guys! since im here is there anyreason why only half of the jars looks ike its colonizing?
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cronicr



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shake the syringe, other then that just dumb luck
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