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YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know...
    #19362696 - 01/03/14 10:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have been very fascinated with the DMT-containing snuffs for some time, and just last night received a package of Anadenanthera colubrina "Cebil" seeds. I toasted 4 seeds, crushed, mixed with a small pinch of lime and saliva to moisten into a dough. I remember reading about giving the dough a final roast to "burn" off some of the lesser desired tryptamines, and leaving behind the Bufotenine. Anyway, once my snuff was ready, I prepared two long tubes made from Elder wood, which is hollow. I loaded up one tube for each nostril, and prepared myself for what was about to happen... My girlfriend, very willingly, blew the snuff directly into my sinuses via the tube. Yanomami style! This is THE way to go. You receive the whole dose so quickly, there is no time to fuss about it. I couldn't have willingly insufflated all that material. Anyway, my eyes started bulging and watering as I sat back and received Yopo-punch #2. FUCK! Now it started kicking in, and it feels like getting punched square in the nose. Your whole head fills up with a pressure. Then my body started getting really heavy and vibrating, and luckily I had a bucket in front of me because in an instant, I vomited up my entire stomach. The trip took about 5-20 minutes to really kick in, and lasted an hour and a half. VERY VISUAL. Very spiritual. I made some voice-recordings of the glossolalia I was experiencing. I think I thoroughly freaked my girlfriend out. I kept feeling "back to earth," then the experience would creep back in for more. Tricky! I really enjoyed the experience, and feel everyone with a passion for entheogens MUST try this substance. By far one of my favorite allies at this point. The duration of the experience compared with the intensity is perfect for my uses. It is probably the half-way point between smoked DMT and oral.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19362723 - 01/03/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I have been very fascinated with the DMT-containing snuffs for some time, and just last night received a package of Anadenanthera colubrina "Cebil" seeds. I toasted 4 seeds, crushed, mixed with a small pinch of lime and saliva to moisten into a dough. I remember reading about giving the dough a final roast to "burn" off some of the lesser desired tryptamines, and leaving behind the Bufotenine. Anyway, once my snuff was ready, I prepared two long tubes made from Elder wood, which is hollow. I loaded up one tube for each nostril, and prepared myself for what was about to happen... My girlfriend, very willingly, blew the snuff directly into my sinuses via the tube. Yanomami style! This is THE way to go. You receive the whole dose so quickly, there is no time to fuss about it. I couldn't have willingly insufflated all that material. Anyway, my eyes started bulging and watering as I sat back and received Yopo-punch #2. FUCK! Now it started kicking in, and it feels like getting punched square in the nose. Your whole head fills up with a pressure. Then my body started getting really heavy and vibrating, and luckily I had a bucket in front of me because in an instant, I vomited up my entire stomach. The trip took about 5-20 minutes to really kick in, and lasted an hour and a half. VERY VISUAL. Very spiritual. I made some voice-recordings of the glossolalia I was experiencing. I think I thoroughly freaked my girlfriend out. I kept feeling "back to earth," then the experience would creep back in for more. Tricky! I really enjoyed the experience, and feel everyone with a passion for entheogens MUST try this substance. By far one of my favorite allies at this point. The duration of the experience compared with the intensity is perfect for my uses. It is probably the half-way point between smoked DMT and oral.



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Hahahaha.  Hashie, you are a beast and a madman.  The method of entry sounds too fucking disgusting for me to ever go for that, but mad props to you for trying it.  You are a true entheogenic adventurer. 
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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19362729 - 01/03/14 10:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wait, on its own with no mao-i inhibitors it lasted an hour and a half? I've never heard of this stuff yet. Legal to obtain or a grey area?


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: lot_justice]
    #19362761 - 01/03/14 10:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Wait, on its own with no mao-i inhibitors it lasted an hour and a half? I've never heard of this stuff yet. Legal to obtain or a grey area?




Some tribes mix it with caapi, which roughly doubles its potency, but bufotenin is active without maois.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19362829 - 01/03/14 10:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Can you go more in depth with the visual descriptions? Were things looking cartoonish, animated as having a great effect on visual acuity? or was it more in tune with the patterning you get on sub breakthrough DMT?

I for one only have experience with full spectrum DMT so you can judge your word usage on that.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19362838 - 01/03/14 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: LittleDipster]
    #19362859 - 01/03/14 11:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did the final product look kind of like dirt? One time someone sold me "DMT" that looked like that and it worked by insufflation so I figured it was N,N-DMT but it might have been bufotenin? It was an awesome trip and it lasted about an hour. The visual effects were so awesome. I kept seeing gelatinous blocks of different colors come up out of the ground and I was seeing something that looked like seashells under every surface. Also, surfaces lost their texture - I was seeing just the color. Do you think that could have been it? When it first came on, I felt a warm rush and then I heard a bell ring and that's when I started tripping.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19363285 - 01/03/14 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Did the final product look kind of like dirt? One time someone sold me "DMT" that looked like that and it worked by insufflation so I figured it was N,N-DMT but it might have been bufotenin? It was an awesome trip and it lasted about an hour. The visual effects were so awesome. I kept seeing gelatinous blocks of different colors come up out of the ground and I was seeing something that looked like seashells under every surface. Also, surfaces lost their texture - I was seeing just the color. Do you think that could have been it? When it first came on, I felt a warm rush and then I heard a bell ring and that's when I started tripping.



Yes it is a greenish yellow-brown powder. Depending on how long you roast the seeds/dough it could take on a much darker color. The warm body rush and some slight audial hallucinations sound just like Bufo or some other DMT analogue.
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Wait, on its own with no mao-i inhibitors it lasted an hour and a half? I've never heard of this stuff yet. Legal to obtain or a grey area?



Yes on its own, 1.5 hours exactly with a slow taper off ~2 hrs then I went to sleep. I actually thought I broke my brain or was experiencing HPPD-like symptoms. No, the seeds were just really fresh and potent! I think I nailed my snuff recipe first go.
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Can you go more in depth with the visual descriptions? Were things looking cartoonish, animated as having a great effect on visual acuity? or was it more in tune with the patterning you get on sub breakthrough DMT?

I for one only have experience with full spectrum DMT so you can judge your word usage on that.



Okay so, visuals didn't really take on until around 20 minutes and really towards the tail end of the trip (45 minutes onward). Mind you, there was lots of babbling and some schizo-like symptoms at this point which completely caught me off guard. I started chanting and making sounds to go with what I was feeling, and then visuals started really booming. Like, typical fractals rippling off the couch, my pants texture took on a very metallic machine look. In my closed eyes, I saw many entities or what some may call hekula. I saw a king with huge deep black eyes who looked like one of the ring wraiths when Frodo puts on the ring (if you know what I'm talking about from the Lord of the Rings movies). It looked scary, but it was badass and he wanted to help out and protect me, heal me, etc. It was riveting. When visuals really started going, at one point I saw a string of little men hanging out on my shirt sleeve. I guess they came out when I vomited. I would also see patterns very similar to the art motifs on Central and South American ruins. Anyone who has experience with smoked DMT, this is very similar to a break through in which discerning the visual trip from reality breaks away. Closed or open eye, you will see the same things. This is when things got serious and personal. This stuff is truly shamanic and will put you in a very vulnerable place. I could not have prepared for this experience, it was truly bizarre, but it needed to happen and it couldn't have gone over better. So glad I did it! I would only recommend this people seriously interested in the therapeutic and "refreshing" aspects of entheogens, purging, cleansing, etc. This is not a toy. I'm sure you are all on board with me here.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19363365 - 01/03/14 01:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

AWESOME.


Was it overwhelming in the sense DMT is with the ability to move?


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19363517 - 01/03/14 01:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good read... Agree, this is not a recreational drug... I have not tried it, but have read up on it... Wow
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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19363604 - 01/03/14 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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AWESOME.


Was it overwhelming in the sense DMT is with the ability to move?



No I could get up and move around at any point, but your motor skills are a bit shaky. It just takes a little getting used to your "sea legs," so to speak. One thing, and this is where the technique in roasting off the other tryptamines comes in handy, I got some wicked cramps in my knees when I stood up. I have experienced this on Psilocybe caerulescens, but not cubensis. Idk what compound is responsible for this, but it hurts. I just had to jump around until they loosened up. Other than the knee cramps, some stomach cramping from purging, and the nasal discomfort, the trip was very fun and productive. :thumbup: It's just the toll you have to pay to enter the palace.


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19364272 - 01/03/14 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's interesting you speak about entities because these "seashell"-like things were alive, I felt, and if I touched where they were they would move like I was squeezing them. They looked alive. Do you think that's a form of "entities"? Man I have to do it again.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19364297 - 01/03/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hashfinger, do you have some reading on "hekula."  I googled the phrase and found nothing, I'm interested in more info if you want to PM me or send me a link.  :grin:


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19365627 - 01/03/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hashfinger, do you have some reading on "hekula."  I googled the phrase and found nothing, I'm interested in more info if you want to PM me or send me a link.  :grin:



There is a really interesting book on Medical Anthropology you can read about hekula, and many other traditions of these tribes in the Orinoco River basin. Check it out here. Also, this book called Anadenanthera: Visionary Plant of Ancient South America might be of interest to some of you.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19365647 - 01/03/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It's interesting you speak about entities because these "seashell"-like things were alive, I felt, and if I touched where they were they would move like I was squeezing them. They looked alive. Do you think that's a form of "entities"? Man I have to do it again.



Yeah its hard to say what exactly you were seeing, when you say seashells, do you mean like a spiral vortex kind of shell feature? Or like a little clam half-way open with two little eyes peering out at you? The latter sounds like a few little guys I had crawling around me. They were just little guys peering through the ripples in the fabric of reality.  :awecid:


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19365788 - 01/03/14 09:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Very interesting. I have some mixed with baking soda, I hope that works as well to activate it and is not to gnarly to snort.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: weshroom]
    #19366028 - 01/03/14 09:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Very interesting. I have some mixed with baking soda, I hope that works as well to activate it and is not to gnarly to snort.



What was the ratio of seed powder to baking soda? I wouldn't go above a 1:3 seed/baking soda ration. Definitely make double-sure the final product is as fine as can be. And get a pretty girl to help you blast it into your sinuses. It helps get it all at once without the fuss. If you've ever done a neti-pot, that is the technique. You don't want the powder blown into your nose and then go down your throat, but rather close off your throat so it goes in one nostril, around the sinuses, and then out the other nostril. And it really didn't burn all that bad. You just have to relax and not tense up. Also, mind the post-nasal drip. Try not to swallow too much, or sniff in or out too hard. Just let the powder sit in your nose for a good 10-15 minutes so you know it gets absorbed well.


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Re: YOPO (Anadenathera colubrina var. cebil) First Experience! Ask me anything you'd like to know... [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19366193 - 01/03/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

about how much weight of powder would you guess blew up your nose?


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    #19366321 - 01/03/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Very interesting. I have some mixed with baking soda, I hope that works as well to activate it and is not to gnarly to snort.



What was the ratio of seed powder to baking soda? I wouldn't go above a 1:3 seed/baking soda ration. Definitely make double-sure the final product is as fine as can be. And get a pretty girl to help you blast it into your sinuses. It helps get it all at once without the fuss. If you've ever done a neti-pot, that is the technique. You don't want the powder blown into your nose and then go down your throat, but rather close off your throat so it goes in one nostril, around the sinuses, and then out the other nostril. And it really didn't burn all that bad. You just have to relax and not tense up. Also, mind the post-nasal drip. Try not to swallow too much, or sniff in or out too hard. Just let the powder sit in your nose for a good 10-15 minutes so you know it gets absorbed well.





Thanks that is very thorough! I dont know/remember the ratio, i got it from a vendor a few years ago. Not sure how much its degraded since then. It is ground up very fine.


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    #19366631 - 01/04/14 01:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Is the nose pain similar to snorting meth? or does it hurts more?


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