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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Nope]
    #19362674 - 01/03/14 10:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, Nope!  (hahahah I couldn't resist)
A little gypsum couldn't hurt.

I've not yet seen the point of using it with my grows.  I prepare my grains right so they're plenty loose, and it's hard to imagine it increasing my yield any noteworthy margin.
I haven't used gypsum in about a year and counting.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19362789 - 01/03/14 10:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nope, Nope!  (hahahah I couldn't resist)
A little gypsum couldn't hurt.

I've not yet seen the point of using it with my grows.  I prepare my grains right so they're plenty loose, and it's hard to imagine it increasing my yield any noteworthy margin.
I haven't used gypsum in about a year and counting.




Why not? Have you not seen differences with the added calcium?
I don't have sticky grains but use gypsum for the calcium.
Still not done enough justifiable comparisons to say for sure it helps,
but seen most other growers come to that conclusion.

Or is the calcium already in your fertz? :tongue2: (joke)


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: spacechildo]
    #19362904 - 01/03/14 11:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Probably calcium in fert boost :shrug:


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: mushrume man]
    #19363261 - 01/03/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So just my own lil alteration to your tek or maybe better a different road is instead of freezing the grain broth I took mine and PCed it for an hr. Then I stored it with the rest of my supplies its been there about 2 weeks and it looks good so far still nothing growing on the top of the water or anything just another option for people like me that cant use the freezer.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Gr13nMushDude]
    #19363320 - 01/03/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think mine is fermenting, I just left it in the fridge :facepalm:


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: mushrume man]
    #19364886 - 01/03/14 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so I have a question about your rgs tek. I followed the flash hydration method and I let it soak for 24 hours  and then drained it for a a few hours on my makeshift screen tray went to load my jars a little while ago and some of the seed looked almost completely dry not much just a little here and there around the edges the rest still felt fairly moist and left some water on the scoop I was using. so on to my question will my seed be alright or did I let it lose too much moisture? Would rather catch it now if I messed up than after I invest more time and supplies into this venture


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Deadzygote6]
    #19365162 - 01/03/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They're tiny so exposed grains dry quickly.  They'll appear as having dried some even more quickly.
They may still be fine, but your question "did I let it lose too much moisture" is one that only you can find out the answer to.

I'll say this - the ones on top of the pile sitting in my containers overnight before sterilization appear to have 'dried' but when returned to the mix for sterilization the whole mix is still just right.


Since they're "flash" hydrated they don't need to drain nearly so long. The moisture kept on the surface amongst the grain after just straining and tossing for a bit helps finish hydration (and maybe even a bit more expansion) during the cooker run.
I started doing this specifically with grass seed for this reason.


It should be pretty clear if they're wet enough inside when you try to mush them.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19365285 - 01/03/14 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alright I guess ill go with it and see how it turns out thanks for the info


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Deadzygote6]
    #19365480 - 01/03/14 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I flash hydrated with coffee and a bit of gypsum for about 3-4 hours in a 5 gallon bucket. I tilted as to let as much water out, without spilling any seeds, because I didn''t want to sift through 11 quarts of rgs with a small metal colander. I also can't PC tonight, so I hope that the seeds aren't too hydrated, and that letting it sit over night helps dry out a bit.
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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19369331 - 01/04/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Could I be able to get away with inoculating pint jars with 1/2cc ms solution?


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Nope]
    #19370915 - 01/05/14 12:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think that depends on a lot of things, but probably yes. I like to squirt it down one side, and not shake it at all. Then when you have a nice fat white streak, you can shake it and get a good distribution from top to bottom.

If it is all on the top or middle and your container is kind of full, it's a lot harder to get a good mix, especially toward the bottom.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19378046 - 01/06/14 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey just another quick question just got done with my first round of pc'ing my seed and noticed my plastic containers had lots of condensation inside is this normal for using the twist top pp5? Or did I do something wrong? I had the lids screwed on just enough for them to catch as was suggested


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Deadzygote6]
    #19379091 - 01/06/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think that's pretty normal. You can shake the grains before you inoculate to distribute moisture


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: mushrume man]
    #19379225 - 01/06/14 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

condensation is very common in my experience.  as temps flux, the moisture evaporates and re-condenses readily.  good or bad?  :justdontknow:


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #19380044 - 01/06/14 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I figured it couldn't hurt to much because I thought my rgs was looking a little on the dry side anyways so it should even out right? Guess well just have to wait and see haha


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Deadzygote6]
    #19542020 - 02/08/14 10:40 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

Nice information here, thanks for taking the time to type it up. I see you have Love&Light on your tag.. Is that in reference to the Dj's?


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Digital FL]
    #19562201 - 02/13/14 04:02 PM (10 years, 12 days ago)

so i prepared some brown rice last night. i used your flash prep method.

they kernels are hard, i can easily cut them in half with im finger nail, but i cant squish them in between my fingers. does this sound right?


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: oxana]
    #19563424 - 02/13/14 08:43 PM (10 years, 11 days ago)

I don't use that method to prepare rice.

It kinda sounds right a little bit, though I wouldn't really describe mine as "hard"
Maybe yours are under-hydrated.  Try it the other way and compare.


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: Violet]
    #19566762 - 02/14/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 11 days ago)

So some quick questions on using grass seed im a bit of a noob... rgs? That is rye grass seed correct? So we are avoiding grass seed containing endophytes? Is that important at all or are all endophytes killed by this process... seems like allowing some germination of bacteria and fungi could be more important before sterilizing with grass seed am I followung this correct?


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Re: Grain Prep Tek • All Grains, featuring Brown Rice & Grass Seed [Re: TrickySpices]
    #19602325 - 02/22/14 12:09 AM (10 years, 3 days ago)

hey violet got another little question for you.

  whey you use a tweezers to grab a pin from one of your rice containers to clone it what do you do to sterillizer the tweezers inbetween uses? do you use a fresh sterile tweezers every transfer or do you maybe dip it in 10% bleach like they do in plant micropropagation? i cant imagine flame sterillizing a tweezers or forceps.


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