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‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum
    #19361256 - 01/02/14 11:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bill Nye “The Science Guy” is scheduled to debate Creation Museum founder Ken Ham next month.

The former children’s television host and outspoken critic of creationist teaching will discuss whether the Bible-based version of Earth’s origins is a viable model Feb. 4 at the museum in Petersburg, Kentucky.

The debate starts at 7 p.m., and tickets will cost $25.

Ham, the president and CEO of Answers in Genesis, said he was excited to face off against Nye.

“It’s quite rare these days for such a well-known evolutionist to publicly debate a creationist – so we do expect a lot of media interest,” Ham said on his Facebook page.

But not everyone is thrilled by the idea.

Matt Young, blogging at The Panda’s Thumb, urged Nye to reconsider his participation, saying that it legitimized creationism.

“There is nothing to debate, and a ‘debate’ with Mr. Nye will only give Mr. Ham credibility that he does not deserve and increase not only his visibility but also his ability to attract investors,” Young wrote.

The blogger noted the example of Holocaust scholar Deborah Lipstadt, who has said she refuses to participate in events with Holocaust deniers.


“I sometimes bowdlerize that to ‘I do not debate liars,’ and it is a policy I recommend to anyone who is tempted to ‘debate’ a creationist,” Young wrote. “Whether you win or lose, you will convince no one and will only add to the prominence of your opponent, who can now say, ‘See, I debated a prominent scientist; I must be taken seriously now.’”





www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/02/science-guy-bill-nye-plans-to-debate-creation-museum-founder-ken-ham/?_nospa=true


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: mindOmy] * 5
    #19361272 - 01/02/14 11:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

dumb. whenever a "scientist" wastes time addressing the existence or nonexistence of god [s]he instantly loses so much respect in my eyes. just do science. people who believe in god arent going to watch that shit and change their mind


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19361292 - 01/02/14 11:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so Matt is mad because two intelligent people want to sit down and have a conversation? bro, im sure you could learn something by going to that show.

even if science ultimately proves evolutionism to be true, faith is still solely and uniquely individualized that regardless of science, people will still choose to believe what they want.

this will have a hell of a lot more relevancy than any political debate:learyharvard:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: tealeaf]
    #19361317 - 01/02/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if "science" wants to "prove" anything, it hasn't been paying attention

as if science were a conscious being, lol


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: mindOmy] * 3
    #19361318 - 01/02/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nye is a brilliant dude and great at debates.

I see the point that by participating Nye is allowing credence to a point that is already moot.  However, from all of the interviews I've heard by him (and growing up on "Bill Nye, the Science Guy") the man has a ton of patience and loves to teach. 

After all, the guy who mesmerized my mind with science when I was an ADD kindergartener is pretty much the perfect guy to address that crowd.  :lol:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Set]
    #19361329 - 01/02/14 11:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

alright fine, "the sciences"; physics, mathematics, ecology, zoology.....

its a real drag on this site when vocabulary mistakes are called out and take the place of intelligent commentary, we should just keep rapping with each other instead of trapping each other:thumbup:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19361341 - 01/02/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dumb. whenever a "scientist" wastes time addressing the existence or nonexistence of god [s]he instantly loses so much respect in my eyes. just do science.



I totally see what you're saying, but I don't think addressing the existence or nonexistence of a creator is going to be the point.  It's definitely an implication though, haha.

Nye's point most likely won't touch on whether or not a god or creator exists, but rather that our current understanding of evolution is a model that has scientific merit.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Set]
    #19361351 - 01/02/14 11:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and where do ancient aliens fit into all this?

:ancientaliens: throw this guy in to the round table and we got ourselves a debacle


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: tealeaf] * 2
    #19361362 - 01/02/14 11:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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alright fine, "the sciences"; physics, mathematics, ecology, zoology.....

its a real drag on this site when vocabulary mistakes are called out and take the place of intelligent commentary, we should just keep rapping with each other instead of trapping each other:thumbup:



the sciences still cannot prove anything. proofs are done in formal logic and mathematics. science has a method for testing hypotheses via experimentation. the results of an experiment can only fail to disprove a hypothesis.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19361428 - 01/02/14 11:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder if it will be streamed live?


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19361432 - 01/02/14 11:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah.

Science is simply a way of testing things.  It doesn't "prove" anything, it only strengthens our understanding of the world around us through successful repetition. 

Through the scientific method we'll continue to learn more about our origins, the universe, and our place in the universe as long as we don't blow ourselves up first.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Set] * 2
    #19361433 - 01/02/14 11:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bill bill bill bill......


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: mindOmy]
    #19361950 - 01/03/14 02:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good for Bill, at $25 a head if he gets half the gate it might even become a travelling show depending if they good enough crowds. Its no different than putting on a show but without the expense of hiring an acting troop. I always knew Bill Nye was brilliant and this move proves it!


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19361957 - 01/03/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Should Evolution Be Taught in School? Dumbest Miss USA Answers! :lol:



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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted] * 5
    #19361960 - 01/03/14 03:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
dumb. whenever a "scientist" wastes time addressing the existence or nonexistence of god [s]he instantly loses so much respect in my eyes. just do science. people who believe in god arent going to watch that shit and change their mind





Relax.  It's just a debate.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19361963 - 01/03/14 03:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Good for Bill, at $25 a head if he gets half the gate it might even become a travelling show depending if they good enough crowds. Its no different than putting on a show but without the expense of hiring an acting troop. I always knew Bill Nye was brilliant and this move proves it!





Sup Ellis Dee. 
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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19361964 - 01/03/14 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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morrowasted said:
dumb. whenever a "scientist" wastes time addressing the existence or nonexistence of god [s]he instantly loses so much respect in my eyes. just do science. people who believe in god arent going to watch that shit and change their mind




People who believe in God won't change their mind, but people who are on the fence about the subject, or people who are open-minded and don't believe one way or the other will definitely be persuaded by evolution.


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #19361972 - 01/03/14 03:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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dumb. whenever a "scientist" wastes time addressing the existence or nonexistence of god [s]he instantly loses so much respect in my eyes. just do science. people who believe in god arent going to watch that shit and change their mind




People who believe in God won't change their mind, but people who are on the fence about the subject, or people who are open-minded and don't believe one way or the other will definitely be persuaded by evolution.



I am open-minded and on the fence and am not "definitely persuaded by evolution" :rolleyes:


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19361978 - 01/03/14 03:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not much, its snowy and I'm about to get the newspaper.

Yeah, it seems like a business saavy decision for Bill to me, he's a materialist scientist and he wants a cut of that materialist gate. Other materialist scientists will end up with less material than Bill, so he's really the bigger materialist. hahaha Maybe next he'll write a book debunking evolution for young people. I bet it would make the best seller list as the creationists buy it like its a Passion of the Christ video and then he could be an even bigger materialist. lololol


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Re: ‘Science Guy’ Bill Nye plans debate on Creation Museum [Re: morrowasted]
    #19361979 - 01/03/14 03:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ya, evolution seems fishy to me.
Some how only one species has evolved to the skill level that humans have.....  and that species is the humans.
HMMMMMM.


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