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LiquidGlass
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: slh980]
#19377284 - 01/06/14 01:38 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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And yes, anybody who ever thought that 3 hits is "300 mics" would be incorrect since the 80's.
When will people stop spreading bullshit? Just because that is your experience that does not automatically make it true for everyone else. I have seen people, in the 2000's no less, weigh out a tenth of a gram and make 10 vials to sell as is. I know someone who goes to europe and brings back grams and lays a whole gram to 100 sheets. Just because your "old geezer" lays weak hits does not mean that is what everyone else does.
And sure there are plenty of people who would be really high of off 100 mics but again, NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME
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slh980
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And yes, anybody who ever thought that 3 hits is "300 mics" would be incorrect since the 80's.
When will people stop spreading bullshit? Just because that is your experience that does not automatically make it true for everyone else. I have seen people, in the 2000's no less, weigh out a tenth of a gram and make 10 vials to sell as is. I know someone who goes to europe and brings back grams and lays a whole gram to 100 sheets. Just because your "old geezer" lays weak hits does not mean that is what everyone else does.
And sure there are plenty of people who would be really high of off 100 mics but again, NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
For you to sit here and try to argue that just because you know somebody who lays 100 mic hits, and say that means all hits are 100, is spreading the same bullshit, no? Very, incredibly, ridiculously, uncommonly, rare occasions, I MIGHT find somebody with 100 mic hits. But again, I doubt it... 50-60 is closer, 80 on the high side. There's no average weight though. It's different from batch to batch. Fuckin' A, it'll change hit to hit.
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lot_justice
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: slh980]
#19377394 - 01/06/14 02:08 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Anyone got a suggest test kit for determining if shit is legit?
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slh980
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bunkpolice
if i'm not allowed to say this for some reason let me know, seeing as how they arent a vendor
Edited by slh980 (01/06/14 02:13 PM)
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: slh980]
#19377434 - 01/06/14 02:15 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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No harm in sourcing a test kit
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lot_justice
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: slh980]
#19377442 - 01/06/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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We can delete them know or edit it out to be safe. BP doesn't seem like a good idea because their tester kit determines a wide range of substances with the same color. i could see a dealer getting trick and deciding to make a liquid form of one of those other substances and spreading it all over the paper knowing that it'd probably test active.
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slh980
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lot_justice said: We can delete them know or edit it out to be safe. BP doesn't seem like a good idea because their tester kit determines a wide range of substances with the same color. i could see a dealer getting trick and deciding to make a liquid form of one of those other substances and spreading it all over the paper knowing that it'd probably test active.
If you search for their LSD specific kit, it only tests for psilocin/cybin, 4-aco-dmt, lsd, dmt, amt, 5-meo-amt, 5-meo-mipt, and 5-meo-dmt. If it's not one of those chemicals, there won't be any color change. They're very good, I use them a lot.
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: slh980]
#19377512 - 01/06/14 02:31 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Well I just started this thread because I was curious if anybody knew. Didn't mean to start a pissing contest 
I don't personally give a fuck if these WoW tabs are 10ug a piece, because 1 takes me to an awesome place, let alone 1.5 or 2. This stuff is great, so I'm not really picky what the actually dosage was. I'm just interested.
However, I'm glad that my buddies don't try to tell me what they think the dosage is they just tell me it's good. I always taste a bit to make sure it isn't RC's, but I haven't been disappointed yet!
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D.M.T
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ppl have different body chemistry, some ppl lay stronger blotters, yadda yadda yadda, there is still consistency in the median and that is that the avg dose has been 50-60 mics since the mid-70s, and that 300 mics will put most people into a disocciating state of consciousness. I'm one of those guys who can handle a lot too but that means shit. actually almost every print I saw in the 80s as a teen is on that DEA seizure page, these were the popular prints of the time, they're what people all across the world were eating much like the Hofmanns of today.
just cause you might know someone who lays stronger doses actually means less than the fact you can find analysis for any popular print, 75ug tends to be the average 'high dose', 50ug tends to be the 'average', and what people call 'weak' tends to be in the 20-30mcg range. this is consistent. it's been consistent. the only difference now is the average went down by about 10ug since the 80s.
of course you have the outliers such as one of the 123mcg Ganesha batches and the original Avatars that tested 170ug, there's probably even a out there who still eye-balls the weight for each sheet like a few guys I knew in the 90s did. even on the same print they're not always the same dose. the circle 1's the DEA seized I dropped in the 80s, look how they were 44mcg one test and 144mcg in another.
I guess the point is if you didn't measure the crystal yourself you're just guessing, everyone is guessing.
and I don't agree with who said 150ug of AL-LAD is 100 mics of LSD. I found the intensity of 150ug to be around the same intensity as what I think is 50 mics of LSD - that is, I think it's slightly less potent than the dragons that tested 56mcg in that DEA seizure link I posted earlier. granted there's a 26 year difference there, I still remember those purple dragons like yesterday. Everyone does because they were good doses, even at only 56mcg.  
you're also completely missing the point in my opinion if the best determiner of psychedelic activity is visuals. that's only like a fourth of the experience at any dose, IMO. Try 5-MeO-DMT if you don't agree with that sentiment.
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: D.M.T]
#19377558 - 01/06/14 02:40 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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D.M.T said: you're also completely missing the point in my opinion if the best determiner of psychedelic activity is visuals. that's only like a fourth of the experience at any dose, IMO. Try 5-MeO-DMT if you don't agree with that sentiment.
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LiquidGlass
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: slh980]
#19377904 - 01/06/14 03:56 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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slh980 said:
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LiquidGlass said:
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And yes, anybody who ever thought that 3 hits is "300 mics" would be incorrect since the 80's.
When will people stop spreading bullshit? Just because that is your experience that does not automatically make it true for everyone else. I have seen people, in the 2000's no less, weigh out a tenth of a gram and make 10 vials to sell as is. I know someone who goes to europe and brings back grams and lays a whole gram to 100 sheets. Just because your "old geezer" lays weak hits does not mean that is what everyone else does.
And sure there are plenty of people who would be really high of off 100 mics but again, NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
For you to sit here and try to argue that just because you know somebody who lays 100 mic hits, and say that means all hits are 100, is spreading the same bullshit, no? Very, incredibly, ridiculously, uncommonly, rare occasions, I MIGHT find somebody with 100 mic hits. But again, I doubt it... 50-60 is closer, 80 on the high side. There's no average weight though. It's different from batch to batch. Fuckin' A, it'll change hit to hit.
Where the FUCK did I say all hits were 100. Get outta here with that bullshit and stop putting words in my mouth. I do not spread misinfo
And I am not saying most hits are this or that dosage. What I am saying is that NO ONE can say what most dosages are. And if you go by the dea publication "microgram" for your info than you have a severe lack of resources. They only test shit they bust people with. A lot of the people that I know in these circles have been going strong since the 60's and not been busted with any L, therefore the DEA cannot test and publicize these doses. There is a lot more acid that never made it into their publication than has made it.
Stop speaking for everyone else and speak for yourself. If you think you can say what the majority of tabs are dosed at then you are delusional
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Edited by LiquidGlass (01/06/14 04:05 PM)
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afrogus
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slh980 said:
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LiquidGlass said:
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And yes, anybody who ever thought that 3 hits is "300 mics" would be incorrect since the 80's.
When will people stop spreading bullshit? Just because that is your experience that does not automatically make it true for everyone else. I have seen people, in the 2000's no less, weigh out a tenth of a gram and make 10 vials to sell as is. I know someone who goes to europe and brings back grams and lays a whole gram to 100 sheets. Just because your "old geezer" lays weak hits does not mean that is what everyone else does.
And sure there are plenty of people who would be really high of off 100 mics but again, NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
For you to sit here and try to argue that just because you know somebody who lays 100 mic hits, and say that means all hits are 100, is spreading the same bullshit, no? Very, incredibly, ridiculously, uncommonly, rare occasions, I MIGHT find somebody with 100 mic hits. But again, I doubt it... 50-60 is closer, 80 on the high side. There's no average weight though. It's different from batch to batch. Fuckin' A, it'll change hit to hit.
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D.M.T said: ppl have different body chemistry, some ppl lay stronger blotters, yadda yadda yadda, there is still consistency in the median and that is that the avg dose has been 50-60 mics since the mid-70s, and that 300 mics will put most people into a disocciating state of consciousness. I'm one of those guys who can handle a lot too but that means shit. actually almost every print I saw in the 80s as a teen is on that DEA seizure page, these were the popular prints of the time, they're what people all across the world were eating much like the Hofmanns of today.
just cause you might know someone who lays stronger doses actually means less than the fact you can find analysis for any popular print, 75ug tends to be the average 'high dose', 50ug tends to be the 'average', and what people call 'weak' tends to be in the 20-30mcg range. this is consistent. it's been consistent. the only difference now is the average went down by about 10ug since the 80s.
of course you have the outliers such as one of the 123mcg Ganesha batches and the original Avatars that tested 170ug, there's probably even a out there who still eye-balls the weight for each sheet like a few guys I knew in the 90s did. even on the same print they're not always the same dose. the circle 1's the DEA seized I dropped in the 80s, look how they were 44mcg one test and 144mcg in another.
I guess the point is if you didn't measure the crystal yourself you're just guessing, everyone is guessing.
and I don't agree with who said 150ug of AL-LAD is 100 mics of LSD. I found the intensity of 150ug to be around the same intensity as what I think is 50 mics of LSD - that is, I think it's slightly less potent than the dragons that tested 56mcg in that DEA seizure link I posted earlier. granted there's a 26 year difference there, I still remember those purple dragons like yesterday. Everyone does because they were good doses, even at only 56mcg.  
you're also completely missing the point in my opinion if the best determiner of psychedelic activity is visuals. that's only like a fourth of the experience at any dose, IMO. Try 5-MeO-DMT if you don't agree with that sentiment.
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And yes, anybody who ever thought that 3 hits is "300 mics" would be incorrect since the 80's.
When will people stop spreading bullshit? Just because that is your experience that does not automatically make it true for everyone else. I have seen people, in the 2000's no less, weigh out a tenth of a gram and make 10 vials to sell as is. I know someone who goes to europe and brings back grams and lays a whole gram to 100 sheets. Just because your "old geezer" lays weak hits does not mean that is what everyone else does.
And sure there are plenty of people who would be really high of off 100 mics but again, NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
For you to sit here and try to argue that just because you know somebody who lays 100 mic hits, and say that means all hits are 100, is spreading the same bullshit, no? Very, incredibly, ridiculously, uncommonly, rare occasions, I MIGHT find somebody with 100 mic hits. But again, I doubt it... 50-60 is closer, 80 on the high side. There's no average weight though. It's different from batch to batch. Fuckin' A, it'll change hit to hit.
Where the FUCK did I say all hits were 100. Get outta here with that bullshit and stop putting words in my mouth. I do not spread misinfo
And I am not saying most hits are this or that dosage. What I am saying is that NO ONE can say what most dosages are. And if you go by the dea publication "microgram" for your info than you have a severe lack of resources. They only test shit they bust people with. A lot of the people that I know in these circles have been going strong since the 60's and not been busted with any L, therefore the DEA cannot test and publicize these doses. There is a lot more acid that never made it into their publication than has made it.
Stop speaking for everyone else and speak for yourself. If you think you can say what the majority of tabs are dosed at then you are delusional
Settle down Junior, were just having a conversation. You don't have to get your tie-died panties in a bunch! It's ok if your opinion differs from the majority, that does not make you any less informed or less hip to the L scene. We have many opinions on the subject, discourse is good!! I am gonna leave this thread as it clearly has been hijacked and seems to be on a collision course with a flame war. Peace out ya'll. Happy New Year.
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Edited by afrogus (01/06/14 06:53 PM)
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Demonic_Chronic
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Re: WoW blotter dosage? [Re: afrogus]
#19378665 - 01/06/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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WoW can vary so much its not even funny.
Usually the WoW I get is 100-110ug but I have some tabs atm that are like 180-200ug. Its kinda rediculous but in the best way possible.
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forrest_dweller
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you go get them tested did ya?
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KingKnowledge
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forrest_dweller said: you go get them tested did ya?
Are you arguing the fact that not all WoW is the same?
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forrest_dweller
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im arguing the fact that demonic has no idea how strong his blotter is and should stop throwing out these random numbers
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Demonic_Chronic
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forrest_dweller said: im arguing the fact that demonic has no idea how strong his blotter is and should stop throwing out these random numbers
Ha! Haha! Your funny buddy. Maybe you should give people more credit, just because LSD is a rarity for some, does not mean it is for others.
I have to warn any one of my friends that I give it to, to start at 2..Everytime they thanked me because they wanted 3 minimum and would've got way too spun.
I may not be an LSD expert but I can guage doses pretty well, maybe not exact but pretty well.
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forrest_dweller
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just because lsd is a rare for some or not, still doesn't mean u know what dose your getting. i get plenty of good blotter and only know them as weak or strong.
so your telling me 100ug wouldn't have you tripping? If you have to take 2 every time
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Demonic_Chronic
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100ug would have me tripping for sure but I dont like to eat small doses usually. Not a fan of taking only one hit. Where did I say that I needed 2 to trip? The only time i mentioned the number 2 was in saying that I have to tell my friends to only take 2 because it can be a surprise to some people where 2 of em will land them.
As with anything, there will always be those who nay say.
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forrest_dweller
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Demonic_Chronic said: start at 2..Everytime
haha well there ya go
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