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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #19364904 - 01/03/14 06:25 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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quick question as to my maoi question, could I add a splash of vinegar to water and boil my rue seeds and do 3 30min boils to make a tea and then evaporate it to have a small amount of crude harmala extract?




Well, i'd say probably not. I mean, you could, but i don't in any way see that as being efficient or even working all that well. I myself when i first started out with Rue, tried doing that, but the residue just wasn't gonna cut it.

In my opinion, it's best to either capsule up 6 capsules or so of ground up Rue seed and ingest the capsules, or to preform an extraction using Sodium Carbonate and some Vinegar or Citric Acid (and the extraction is pretty easy too).


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19365220 - 01/03/14 07:18 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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Wow thanks a lot! I actually have Acacia confusa coming in the mail soon. And I know someone who has a problem puking up Ayahuasca before it takes effect so I'll definitely do this.




Np, yeah it's def. worth a try. Heck even for those who doesn't wanna get around the purge, i think it's still nice to be able to work with a clean tasteless Acacia tea and a simple Harmala extract capsule. That's why i personally don't understand why one would want to drink such a horrible tasting brew when there are other ways out there that are more suitable.

And what i like most about taking Ayahuasca this way, is that unlike Pharmahuasca, this actually works pretty much all the time. From what i understand, freebase DMT doesn't get absorbed by the gut very well so alot of people tend to have issues getting Pharmahuasca to work, whereas freebase Harmalas tend to be absorbed just fine in the gut.

The thing also with Pharmahuasca is people will then usually just dissolve their freebase DMT and Harmalas into something acidic like orange juice which converts the freebase back to a salt form that can be ingested and will work but tasty/tasteless it is not.

So i said screw the taste and screw extracting DMT. Extracting the Harmalas is easy and each dose will fit into one single capsule, and then doing the egg white thing will make a tasty DMT-containing tea/drink, so the result is obviously a better option imo :smile:


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
    #19367129 - 01/04/14 07:44 AM (10 years, 27 days ago)

I totally agree. What timing is best for taking the MAOI in your experience? I was gonna take the Aya 30 minutes after but you said 15 and I tend to believe you. I just want to get it right the first time which is why I'm so concerned with details.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19367841 - 01/04/14 12:05 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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I totally agree. What timing is best for taking the MAOI in your experience? I was gonna take the Aya 30 minutes after but you said 15 and I tend to believe you. I just want to get it right the first time which is why I'm so concerned with details.




Well, i'd say for extracted Harmalas, probably 10 to 15 minutes apart, probably 15. For Syrian Rue seed capsules, i'd say 30 minutes.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
    #19367985 - 01/04/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

There is a tek going around in which one mixes the maoi inhibitor with the bark in the beginning, simmers them for three hours, saves water, adds more, simmers another three, strains, combine both batches of liquid, and then simmers those to a manageable amount (about another 3-6 hours)

It surprised me because people say you should do the mao i first. Then again, this tek has been circulating around for some number of years with a lot of people saying that it is incredibly potent (13 g of acacia on this tek is doing more than 20 g which goes throug two shorter brews on its own) I noticed with this combination tek, however, one consumes 6 g of Syrian for 13 g of bark. This is a major swing in the ratios.

Any thoughts on this tek? Would you try it? Do you think that the double dose of mao-i will compensate for not consuming it prior to consuming the dmt material?


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: lot_justice]
    #19368328 - 01/04/14 01:40 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

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There is a tek going around in which one mixes the maoi inhibitor with the bark in the beginning, simmers them for three hours, saves water, adds more, simmers another three, strains, combine both batches of liquid, and then simmers those to a manageable amount (about another 3-6 hours)

It surprised me because people say you should do the mao i first. Then again, this tek has been circulating around for some number of years with a lot of people saying that it is incredibly potent (13 g of acacia on this tek is doing more than 20 g which goes throug two shorter brews on its own) I noticed with this combination tek, however, one consumes 6 g of Syrian for 13 g of bark. This is a major swing in the ratios.

Any thoughts on this tek? Would you try it? Do you think that the double dose of mao-i will compensate for not consuming it prior to consuming the dmt material?



That's how traditional ayahuasca is made, but with different ingredients. It works either way, however, taking the MAOI a half hour or so beforehand does make it slightly more potent and take less time to kick in overall. What I do, is take my rue and wait until I can feel the rue, it has a definite effect, and the first warning I get is usually a tingle up my spine. After that, I drink the deems.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: themckid]
    #19368416 - 01/04/14 01:56 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Is there any info on the duration and potency of the mao-i inhibitor. Does it hit hard at once, or is there a gradual build up, peak, and then taper? When I did pharma, I felt as if before the dmt was through, the mao-i i had taken a half hour earlier was dying out, so I made a new rue tea and the trip re-surged.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: lot_justice]
    #19394085 - 01/09/14 03:01 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

So, here's an update. Last night i took a capsule of 215 to 220mgs of Harmalas (my scale kept fluctuating within a 5mg range) and washed it down with a tea made from 2 grams of Lemon Balm (so that the Lemon Balm would kick in when the Harmalas do). 30 minutes later, i mixed 15mls of my concentrated Acacia Confusa tea (which is approx. 6 grams) with a gram of Lemon Balm tea and drank.

The result was a nausea/purge free experience, that kicked in about an hour and a half after ingestion and the Acacia portion lasted about 3 to 4 hours while the Harmalas lasted about 6 hours. So all in all, the entire experience, starting at an hour and a half, lasted 6 hours. It was really nice, full on, and once again purging was not necessary and the experience was still as powerful :smile:


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
    #19394462 - 01/09/14 04:25 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Sabnock we appreciate your report. It's good you had a good experience from 6g. I was trying to work out a dose for my first try with acacia on Saturday and I settled on 10g. People say 15g is extremely intense. Man I'm excited about this.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19394587 - 01/09/14 04:51 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah i'd imagine 15 grams would indeed be extremely intense. I've tried an 8 gram dose of the inner root bark and i felt the need to go back down to 6 as even 8 grams seemed a little strong for me. Regular root bark would probably be extremely intense at the 20 gram dose range, who knows maybe even 15 as well, i still haven't worked with Acacia Confusa all that long so i'm still getting used to it.

But yeah np on the reporting, it's the least i can do to help others out as i go through these experiences through experimentation. I've come to the conclusion that for me, Acacia Confusa is way more colorful and visual than Mimosa was, yet the Acacia seems to lack the bodily feelings that the Mimosa has. To me i feel like Acacia is for visions/visuals and more mental, whereas Mimosa is about feeling/dancing and seems more physical. I don't know if it's that way with other people, but for some odd reason i never seemed to get much visuals during my work with Mimosa, but boy has Acacia shown me what all the visual talk is about.

I myself, i'm not all that concerned about visual activity, or atleast i don't use Ayahuasca for the visual aspect. I use it more for the pharmacological and medicinal properties it has to offer and to me the experience is more about being/feeling a more human side of myself.

One thing i'd really like to try one day is to mix both the Acacia Confusa and the Mimosa Hostilis, and see where that takes me. Thank god i'm growing a bunch of Mimosa as it can grow where i live, and in 10 years from now i shall have all the Mimosa i need, as well as Acacia Confusa and Simplex although those are slower growing and i'd most likely have to use the stem/branch bark cuz i hear the root harvesting will kill Acacia's. Either way though, i'm entering a crucial point in my life and am dedicated to this stuff.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
    #19394642 - 01/09/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

And once again i can not express how awesome it is to be able to ingest Ayahuasca as easily i'm able to. I mean, one single capsule is enough to hold a full dose of purified Harmalas, or even Rue or Caapi full spectrum extract. And idk about anyone else, but technically Ayahuasca is the B. Caapi vine, correct? There seems to be alot of confusion as to what Ayahuasca actually is, there's apparently Ayahuasca and then the Ayahuasca admixture brew, but either way Ayahuasca in my eyes technically seems to be the Harmala alkaloids first and foremost and possibly includes the full spectrum extract of Caapi. Either way though, the way i see it, you're able to take a foul tasting/smelling brew and turn it into a single capsule.

From there, once the capsule is taken, give it a little time, like 30 minutes and then simply drink an easy to get down tea, and one is set. To me, it's like a cleaner version of Ayahuasca, it's not raw and dirty feeling like taking Rue seed capsules, it's much much cleaner and clearer and feels more "normal" or natural, to me.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
    #20921630 - 12/03/14 08:22 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hey man i have a question about this recipe.. after you finish making the (acacia confusa 50g) tea and store it in the fridge and use as needed as you said, how does one measure dosage? A 50g brew can be dangerous if dosed too high. How much water do you use when boiling the brew (per steep)?


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: marcohuasca]
    #20922711 - 12/03/14 01:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Why does every technique I read about on here involving using something BESIDES caapi and chakruna - aren't THOSE the cleanest ones to use?


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: marcohuasca]
    #20923309 - 12/03/14 03:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Hey man i have a question about this recipe.. after you finish making the (acacia confusa 50g) tea and store it in the fridge and use as needed as you said, how does one measure dosage? A 50g brew can be dangerous if dosed too high. How much water do you use when boiling the brew (per steep)?




I measure each dose out in mls, usually i do 100 grams of Acacia and the resulting tea is 500mls, each gram being 5 mls. And for 50 grams, i'll usually have a tea that's 250mls.

And i don't measure out the water i use during boiling, i just put the root in the pot, fill it up with water, boil it, filter off each boil, and you'd might wanna do 8 separate boils on the root, as i've done 4 boils before and it was less potent by about 5 to 10 grams than the tea i made with 8 boils.

And don't forget to freeze, thaw and filter the tea as much as you can once it's reduced down to where you want it, then once it's clean you can store it in the fridge for at least 3 months without it going bad.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #20923328 - 12/03/14 03:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Why does every technique I read about on here involving using something BESIDES caapi and chakruna - aren't THOSE the cleanest ones to use?




Because Caapi is expensive and in my opinion is for rare use only, while Rue is really cheap and can be used more regularly (especially if you get 4.2 pounds of seed for 65 bucks, which is more than a years worth of Rue). I actually just ordered me a pound of Red Caapi and a pound of Yellow Caapi which i will be extracting from with vinegar and washing soda just like i do with the Rue, it will be my first time working with Caapi, so i'm excited :smile:

As for the Chacruna, it's potency varies and is a really weak source of DMT from what i understand, i wouldn't have any issue using it if it were just a little more potent. I wouldn't even mind using Chaliponga, but even though it's more potent than Chacruna, it's potency is still variable. Mimosa and Acacia root bark is just a lot easier to use and is cheaper.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: Sabnock]
    #20923368 - 12/03/14 03:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Really, it's not worth $10 per session to use the original authentic plant called "ayahuasca" when drinking ayahuasca? You'd spend that much to buy a drink at a bar, and here you are talking about a 6 hour spiritual experience with your health on the line. How often do you drink - every day?


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #20923724 - 12/03/14 04:56 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Really, it's not worth $10 per session to use the original authentic plant called "ayahuasca" when drinking ayahuasca?




Indeed, ayahuasca specifically denotes the vine, B. caapi,* however I don't think the vine should be considered a tradition that is respected. Indeed, some people say that B. caapi is superior to Peganum harmala seeds, however 69Ron, for example, says that isolated tetrahydroharmine is his preference. The difference between P. harmala and B. caapi is that P. harmala contains kind of a 50/50 mixture of harmine and harmaline, and B. caapi contains harmine and tetrahydroharmine and only a small amount of harmaline.** 69Ron says that he prefers the harmine/THH B. caapi mixture and I've seen other comments where people echo what he says, saying that they prefer B. caapi. But 69Ron says that pure THH is even better than harmine + THH.† Furthermore, he claims that it was determined that B. caapi vines that contained more THH were preferred by the South Americans. This all suggests to me that the brain has a predilection for a certain style of chemical structure, tetrahydroharmine being the best; and harmine or the admixture of harmine & THH being closer to the 'frequency' that THH produces -- harmaline being of a cruder nature than the two chemicals mentioned.

Additionally, there are 'harman-type' chemicals (contrasted with the 'harmine-type' chemicals mentioned above) found in a wide array of plants.‡ This is an interesting frontier. A member of this msg board recently started to explore this territory: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20716457

Lastly, moclobemide is a synthetic MAOI that has gained popularity for the use of oral DMT and some people prefer it to the naturally-occurring ones.

The Moclobemide Report supplies information about this short-term, reversible, medical MAOI. Learn about the benefits of this drug (over Peganum harmala and other herbal MAOI drugs) when used in pharmahuasca experiments. Moclobemide is fast becoming the MAOI of preference amongst in-the-know psychonauts. Educate yourself today! (3 pages)

Jon Hanna - http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_resource_list.pdf

One thing that needs to be noted about pharmaceutical MAOIs is that they do not produce a stoning effect of their own, whereas the harmine/harman-type chemicals do (the MAOI effect is seperate from the stoning effect). This harmaloid high is a factor that is absent from pharmaceutical DMT trips.

So it's not about plants, it's about molecules. The whole plant, B. caapi a.k.a. ayahuasca holds no importance.


I think the natives referred to the complete brew as ayahuasca because they were confused over the fact that the P. viridis or whatever (one of the traditional DMT-source plants) wouldn't work by itself; so they assigned erroneous importance to the B. caapi vine. The name ayahuasca completely ignores the DMT (because, once again, ayahuasca is literally their name for the vine) and this is what I mean when I say 'erroneous importance' and I think that they did this because they would get no effect if they just ingested P. viridis, so they assumed that the B. caapi portion of the brew was exponentially more important than any additional ingredients. Now had they smoked some DMT freebase, they might have changed their minds. :smile:


*The name ayahuasca is from Quechua, a South American Indian language: huasca means “vine” or “liana” and aya means “souls” or “dead people” or “spirits.” Thus “vine of the dead,” “vine of the souls,” or “vine of the spirits” would all be appropriate English translations.

Ralph Metzner. Sacred Vine of Spirits: Ayahuasca (2005), Introduction


**Same as above.


Tetrahydroharmine (THH) and DMT taken orally 


‡See 'Ayahuasca Analogs and Pharmahuasca' chapter in 'The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants'* (page 716)
*Christian Rätsch, 2005


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: PsychoKinesiS] * 1
    #20923779 - 12/03/14 05:09 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Really, it's not worth $10 per session to use the original authentic plant called "ayahuasca" when drinking ayahuasca? You'd spend that much to buy a drink at a bar, and here you are talking about a 6 hour spiritual experience with your health on the line. How often do you drink - every day?





It's worth it, no doubt. It's just, i started out with Rue and Mimosa, and i love the combo, i have nothing against Caapi, Chacruna or Chaliponga, i just like to experiment around and Rue and Mimosa/Acacia is cheaper for experimentation. But just because i use Rue over Caapi, or Mimosa over Chacruna, doesn't mean i haven't had powerful, amazing and spiritual experiences. In fact, i had a precognitive premonition of my dad dying, two weeks before he actually died, and that was with purified Harmalas from Rue, and some Acacia and Lemon Balm tea.

I like diversity, i appreciate all the plants, and i'm really into the idea of mixing plants together. I'm also very interested in using Shrooms with Ayahuasca, with or without the DMT, as i think Shrooms have a lot of potential, just like DMT, but i've experienced DMT in Ayahuasca quite a lot already, and am looking to change it up a bit.

I also sip on my teas rather than drink them, because i like to play around with the onset and duration, and i find sipping on the DMT-containing teas to be better than drinking it all down at once.

And besides all this, Ayahuasca isn't limited to South America, yeah the Caapi "Ayahuasca" vine is, but Syrian Rue seeds serve just as much purpose as Caapi does in my honest opinion, after all, it is native to the middle east.

And as for how often i take Ayahuasca, back in 2012 i would take the stuff pretty regularly, like daily with a few breaks every now and then, did it like that all year. Then i took a break for pretty much all of 2013 and then this year i got back into it but improved my method of ingestion by upgrading from capsules of Rue seed and Mimosa root to Rue extract in capsule form (soon to be in liquid form) and an egg white cleansed Mimosa or Acacia tea that is very easy to drink or mix with something like Lemon Balm tea. These days though, i've certainly slowed down with my usage of it, but i do like to take it at least once a week, if i'm in the mood.

A few days ago, i made some cherry kool aid, poured a little bit into a small cup, warmed it up in the microwave, then when warm, i added in my weighed out Rue extract dose and added a few pinches of some extra citric acid to help everything dissolve. And while the kool aid was warm, it was actually very drinkable, just a little bit bitter but that probably can be fixed with a little more sugar (or honey if you prefer). But once it got cold, it was a lot more bitter, which made me wonder how a warm Rue or Caapi extract brew would taste on it's own, maybe neutralize the acidity from the citric acid, with some baking soda and use a pH meter to get things right.... it might actually taste alright.

But yeah, i have my Red and Yellow Caapi on the way, should be here Friday, and some time next week i think i'll go ahead and extract from em'. Which btw, i wonder why Ayahuasqueros still use the brews and haven't taken advantage of easy extractions with something as safe as vinegar and washing soda. The extracts are by far much easier to work with than brews, as they can be encapsulated per dose, or dissolved into some acidic liquid, and especially for Caapi, it's easy to weigh or measure out a dose compared to the variable potency of Caapi brews, an extract is much preferred.


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Re: Clean, easy to get down and nausea/purge free Ayahuasca [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #20924156 - 12/03/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for posting your experiences with ayahuasca. Find it very helpful. I have yet to try ayahuasca but have the needed ingredients around and I think I may try this.

Have a question about extracting the harmala's from rue specifically. Was wondering if you have a  ratio of sodium carbonate to rue seeds to water? You said you use 10 grams sodium carbonate to 400 ml of rue brewbut how many grams rue did you start with? Or does it matter? Also is their a certain ph the acid water needs to be when adding the vinegar to purify the harmalas?


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    #20924184 - 12/03/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Have a question about extracting the harmala's from rue specifically.




Seems to be the most promising:

A new level of harmala purity with this extraction


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