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zappaisgod
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
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zappaisgod said: and I’m not a liberal.
The fuck you aren't
So everybody who believes in anthropomorphic climate change is a liberal? 
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I don't think somebody who lives in Mom's basement has any business calling Palin a failure and definitely not Romney. By the way, the Dems do want to take away our guns.
Damn, Zap. For a second, you almost had my respect when you said that you were a REAGAN Republican. That, I still can respect. But a Dubya Republican, or a PALIN Republican.... you sir, have completely lost my respect again. 
I'm not a Republican. I'm a conservative. W was not a conservative and everyhting you know about Palin has been spoon fed drivel from a corrupt media that demonizes any member of an identity group that they believe should pledge allegiance to Democrats. They do the same thing with conservative Negroes.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
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You are a conspiracy nutter too, thats pretty funny.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: elax420]
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You think that's a conspiracy? It's just their nature. They aren't smart enough to conspire.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19356416 - 01/01/14 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude, there is no such thing as a liberal media. Just think about it. Every single channel on TV is basically owned by 8 of the biggest TV corporations. You think whoever's in charge of these corporations is going to deliberately espouse liberal viewpoints?
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
#19357580 - 01/02/14 08:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Dude, there is no such thing as a liberal media. Just think about it. Every single channel on TV is basically owned by 8 of the biggest TV corporations. You think whoever's in charge of these corporations is going to deliberately espouse liberal viewpoints?
Most wealthy people I know are liberal so yea that doesn't surprise me they have controlled the media and the vast majority colleges for a long time.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19357758 - 01/02/14 10:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: No shit. No one is arguing that there aren’t natural cycles.
If you think Humans have no influence over climate, i don’t even know what to say dude. Your head is so far up your ass on this one its not even worth talking about.
Its almost as stupid as a flat earth argument.
I'm sorry that your education has been such a failure that you cannot see that these alarmists are making huge bank. In the seventies and eighties it was the cooling scare. Now it's a warming scare even though it has been zero for over 15 years while CO2 emissions are rising still. They make all these predictions and they never pan out. Remember Paul Ehrlich? Of course not, you are 17.
Do humans have an effect on the climate. Of course they do. Every single species does. Every one. Do you know why we have oxygen in the atmosphere? Single celled organism acting over millions of years. The argument being presented by the alarmists is that we need to stop using the single greatest boon to mankind because it is increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 0.03% to 0.04%. Riiiiight. And that's what ended the ice age. The natural forces at work that affect the global temperature are so mammoth that they render irrelevant any CO2 increase. There is also this
http://science.time.com/2013/11/01/oceans-warming-faster-than-they-have-over-past-10000-years/ For fucks sake dude, come off it. You're just as bad as the extreme liberals you hate with such vehemence. Calm down and realize that everyone here needs to do a lot more research. Single greatest boon? Unless you've got a degree in the sciences, please take your own opinion with a grain of salt. Undergoing a resource/labor intensive active harvesting and subsequent refinement for a burnable substance to create energy is mindlessly sophomoric from a thermodynamic standpoint, our clinging to it is like us subsidizing vacuum tube computing decades after integrated circuits had demonstrated its superiority, and is exactly the reason why such a dated energy production paradigm still reigns. It's difficult for a crappy antiquated technology to fail when it's backed by governments worldwide. I'm sure you disagree with me with your regular angsty arrogance and I don't much care, everyone will reap the benefits of legitimately inexpensive energy once oil/gas die their long overdue death. The "alarmists making huge bank" is completely overshadowed by the financial incentives of oil/gas executives, so I'm not sure what your point is there. 97% of scientists certainly aren't agreeing on something because renewable companies have more financial influence than oil/gas. Even if it has no environmental impact, the economic consequences of associated health risks are enough for other options to warrant development...hence China's current dilemma and move towards cleaner energy. CO2 isn't the major contributor fwiw. This said, government does not need its hands in the game. Full divestment is the only logical path from my perspective, but given our current spending, that course actually benefits non-oil/gas technologies. Fwiw, I'm a moderate, and I hate being in the middle for political issues.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
#19358109 - 01/02/14 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Dude, there is no such thing as a liberal media. Just think about it. Every single channel on TV is basically owned by 8 of the biggest TV corporations. You think whoever's in charge of these corporations is going to deliberately espouse liberal viewpoints?
Have you ever actually watched them? Are you joking? Being a corporation has nothing to do with it. Do you even understand the purpose of incorporation?
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Xingu]
#19358153 - 01/02/14 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: No shit. No one is arguing that there aren’t natural cycles.
If you think Humans have no influence over climate, i don’t even know what to say dude. Your head is so far up your ass on this one its not even worth talking about.
Its almost as stupid as a flat earth argument.
I'm sorry that your education has been such a failure that you cannot see that these alarmists are making huge bank. In the seventies and eighties it was the cooling scare. Now it's a warming scare even though it has been zero for over 15 years while CO2 emissions are rising still. They make all these predictions and they never pan out. Remember Paul Ehrlich? Of course not, you are 17.
Do humans have an effect on the climate. Of course they do. Every single species does. Every one. Do you know why we have oxygen in the atmosphere? Single celled organism acting over millions of years. The argument being presented by the alarmists is that we need to stop using the single greatest boon to mankind because it is increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 0.03% to 0.04%. Riiiiight. And that's what ended the ice age. The natural forces at work that affect the global temperature are so mammoth that they render irrelevant any CO2 increase. There is also this
http://science.time.com/2013/11/01/oceans-warming-faster-than-they-have-over-past-10000-years/ For fucks sake dude, come off it. You're just as bad as the extreme liberals you hate with such vehemence. Calm down and realize that everyone here needs to do a lot more research. Single greatest boon? Unless you've got a degree in the sciences, please take your own opinion with a grain of salt. Undergoing a resource/labor intensive active harvesting and subsequent refinement for a burnable substance to create energy is mindlessly sophomoric from a thermodynamic standpoint, our clinging to it is like us subsidizing vacuum tube computing decades after integrated circuits had demonstrated its superiority, and is exactly the reason why such a dated energy production paradigm still reigns. It's difficult for a crappy antiquated technology to fail when it's backed by governments worldwide. I'm sure you disagree with me with your regular angsty arrogance and I don't much care, everyone will reap the benefits of legitimately inexpensive energy once oil/gas die their long overdue death. The "alarmists making huge bank" is completely overshadowed by the financial incentives of oil/gas executives, so I'm not sure what your point is there. 97% of scientists certainly aren't agreeing on something because renewable companies have more financial influence than oil/gas. Even if it has no environmental impact, the economic consequences of associated health risks are enough for other options to warrant development...hence China's current dilemma and move towards cleaner energy. CO2 isn't the major contributor fwiw. This said, government does not need its hands in the game. Full divestment is the only logical path from my perspective, but given our current spending, that course actually benefits non-oil/gas technologies. Fwiw, I'm a moderate, and I hate being in the middle for political issues.
Cheap energy is the single greatest boon to humanity and the source of cheap energy for several decades, which coincides with the single greatest period of human prosperity, has been fossil fuels. This is indisputable fact and I am 100% sure causal.
The climate changes. It always has, it always will. For any bunch of nutcases to suggest that we should curtail our prosperity for some dubious fear that increasing a trace gas by 0.01% of the atmosphere's composition will destroy the planet is beyond run of the mill stupidity. What do you think the Chinese and the Indians have to say about this, anyway. They laugh at the West's suicide pacts it makes with itself.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19358301 - 01/02/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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as they choke to death on their own pollution.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19358645 - 01/02/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, so?
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19358652 - 01/02/14 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So their emissions are dangerous, and shit. At least at the levels we currently...emit.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19358662 - 01/02/14 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: So their emissions are dangerous, and shit. At least at the levels we currently...emit.
What do you mean by "we" Kemosabe. Their emissions of what are dangerous?
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19358738 - 01/02/14 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vehicles, coal fired plants, mines and industrial operations. Things of that nature.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19358761 - 01/02/14 02:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Vehicles, coal fired plants, mines and industrial operations. Things of that nature.
Well we must surely end all of those things post haste.
What do you think China and India will do?
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19358783 - 01/02/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who said anything about ending anything? Intelligent compromises rather then going buck fucking wild with maximizing profits would do a lot to keep the quality of life up.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#19358990 - 01/02/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Who said anything about ending anything? Intelligent compromises rather then going buck fucking wild with maximizing profits would do a lot to keep the quality of life up.
Do you or do you not want to curtail the use of fossil fuels for some imagined benefit? This is simple. I'm not talking about soot or scrubbers in stacks or catalytic converters or any of that. None of those things has anything to do with the devil CO2
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19359383 - 01/02/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Dude, there is no such thing as a liberal media. Just think about it. Every single channel on TV is basically owned by 8 of the biggest TV corporations. You think whoever's in charge of these corporations is going to deliberately espouse liberal viewpoints?
Have you ever actually watched them? Are you joking? Being a corporation has nothing to do with it. Do you even understand the purpose of incorporation?
I went to a private school where literally every other person (except for 1 person besides me) in the entire school was a conservative Republican, and they constantly talked about this "liberal media." Except that the examples that they provided to prove the existence of this so-called "liberal media" was always lame. They would pick up a Newsweek magazine and be like, "Look at how stupid GW Bush looks on the cover! The liberal media is ALWAYS using pictures where Bush looks stupid to try and discredit him!"
I have yet to see real examples of this "liberal media."
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: Dude, there is no such thing as a liberal media. Just think about it. Every single channel on TV is basically owned by 8 of the biggest TV corporations. You think whoever's in charge of these corporations is going to deliberately espouse liberal viewpoints?
Have you ever actually watched them? Are you joking? Being a corporation has nothing to do with it. Do you even understand the purpose of incorporation?
I went to a private school where literally every other person (except for 1 person besides me) in the entire school was a conservative Republican, and they constantly talked about this "liberal media." Except that the examples that they provided to prove the existence of this so-called "liberal media" was always lame. They would pick up a Newsweek magazine and be like, "Look at how stupid GW Bush looks on the cover! The liberal media is ALWAYS using pictures where Bush looks stupid to try and discredit him!"
I have yet to see real examples of this "liberal media."
Practically every news article I read is slanted to the left same with the major networks with the exception of fox although the liberals wish to shut it down because they don't like any competition.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19359453 - 01/02/14 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Who said anything about ending anything? Intelligent compromises rather then going buck fucking wild with maximizing profits would do a lot to keep the quality of life up.
Do you or do you not want to curtail the use of fossil fuels for some imagined benefit? This is simple. I'm not talking about soot or scrubbers in stacks or catalytic converters or any of that. None of those things has anything to do with the devil CO2
CO2? I'm talking about a far broader spectrum of pollutants. Anyone who isnt half retarded would realize climate change is perfectly natural.
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Re: Here's a gret TED video about how money changes people's behavior for the worst. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19359457 - 01/02/14 04:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No. Most news stations simply report news and facts. The only time anything is "slanted" left or right, is when people add COMMENTARIES to the news.
Also I've seen CBS and NBC cover illegal immigration and Medicare scandals, which I hardly call "left."
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