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bigd17
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Using a bathroom as stealth grow room?
#19359287 - 01/02/14 03:58 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Hey guys I haven't been on in awhile been busy working, moving and raising my child lol. Before I start I just want to statethat I know that a bathroom isn't the ideal place to do anything mycological however it is my plan and I would like to know if anyone else has had success using an empty and unused bathroom to keep their fruiting chamber.
All of my sterilization and inoculation is done in the kitchen after I have cleaned it thoroughly and noone else is home to f with things and my jars are stored on a clean shelf in a closet with the door closed.
That being said I have an extra bathroom that is only accessible via the bedroom to which it is attached which is currently used for storage making this bathroom the perfect place for me to do the hard-to-conceal parts of this process. The bathroom has not been used for quite sometime and will not be used. If I were to scrub everything with bleachwater and cover the toilet/showerhead/drain with plastic and oust the hell out of the room is it possible that it could be clean enough for me to keep my fruiting chamber if I have it on a stand up off the ground?
Has anyone tried doing this before?
Should I turn off and drain the toilet of its water as well or would that create dried mold spores that would be easier carried around the room?
I know its alot of questions but any advice at all is welcome from anyone who is willing to give it. I'm still very inexperienced as you can probably tell and its mainly because I have yet to complete a successful grow due to not having space free of intrusive relatives lol. Now I finally do but my house still ain't huge or all that far from the in laws.
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bigd17]
#19359316 - 01/02/14 04:02 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Bathrooms are notorious for having black mold. I would look else where if I were you.
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: FungiJB]
#19359326 - 01/02/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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bathrooms are for shitting in, build a sab even if it's just a cardboard box
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mindOmy
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bigd17]
#19359415 - 01/02/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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bigd17 said: Has anyone tried doing this before?
Should I turn off and drain the toilet of its water as well or would that create dried mold spores that would be easier carried around the room?
I totally agree with FungiJB, but perhaps this is a half bath that doesn't have a shower? If I am wrong please feel free to correct me, but I did my experiments in a non finished half bath that had not been used for many, many years. I did shut the water off and capped off any possible places of leakage. I had a great success. So its up to you man. Trial and Error never hurts.
But then again I'm a noob...
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: mindOmy]
#19359464 - 01/02/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Bathrooms and kitchens are the worst two rooms you can use for this hobby, but if your sterile tek is good you should be fine. Perhaps when fruiting your grows might get rogue mold a little sooner than they would otherwise have and you'll have higher hurdles to jump through but it's not impossible just not the best way .
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: mindOmy]
#19359481 - 01/02/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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My first two times attempting to inoculate long ago were under similar circumstances and in a bathroom. Both times were a spectacular failure. IMHO a still air box greatly reduces contamination and would really help you out if thats the only space you have.. With gloves and a mask.
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: Quexl]
#19359513 - 01/02/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quexl said: My first two times attempting to inoculate long ago were under similar circumstances and in a bathroom. Both times were a spectacular failure. IMHO a still air box greatly reduces contamination and would really help you out if thats the only space you have.. With gloves and a mask. 
Yep you'll want to make a SAB pronto.
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bigd17
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19359601 - 01/02/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Ok cool so an San is a still air box I'm assuming but that's only for the inoculation phase right? I've been intending on building one prob for my next grow with spores that should be here next week. These are 2-3 yr old syringes i just wanted to throw into something because I had the itch to get started and I figured practice is never a bad thing they may not even be viable so I didn't worry about the box. But again the sterilization and inoculation procedure isn't so much what I'm concerned about here just finding a good place for the fruiting chamber.
The adjoining bedroom is the only other candidate but its filled with clothes and a couch and desk and there's not much room though I could probably make some without much trouble I'm just not sure if all that other shit would be contributing to dust/skin/hair particles in the air plus the roomin has an a/c vent which the bathroom does not.
The mold is a very good point though because even if I get the room cleaner than gods asshole it could still be in the walls right?
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bigd17
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bigd17]
#19359627 - 01/02/14 04:58 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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If these crap jars actually colonize I might try the bathroom just for shits and giggles because that would be the most convenient place for meso its worth it just to find out and if it fails oh well I will make space in the bedroom for my next attempt. Ill let y'all know how it goes!
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bigd17]
#19359635 - 01/02/14 05:00 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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just build yourelf a sab and stop worrying about mold it will drive you nuts, use a good sterile technique and have faith in your filters
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bigd17]
#19359671 - 01/02/14 05:07 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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I have found sterile procedures are mostly important for the inoculation step. Incubation too but hopefully your dry verm does most of the job. Once you take them out of the jar you can't really consider them sterile anymore.
That being said I don't go coughing everywhere and touching everything you know? Just try and be clean over all. My FC is in a not so sterile environment just because I have dirty clothes in the same room, etc. It has been doing just fine. I just make sure not to touch something dirty and touch my cakes. Don't be fanning like crazy blowing air all over the room. Just kind of common sense things to stay clean.
I think the bathroom will probably work okay but still inoculate in a still air box or something similar. At the end of the day even sterile environments will give you contams sometimes. So if you have more contams then you would like from growing in a bathroom, don't be surprised...
For the sake of experimenting and for your own knowledge. Find an agar plate and just let it sit in the bathroom in the open air for 2-3 hours. Then watch a bunch of nasty shit grow over the next week.
GOOD LUCK!
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: bigd17]
#19359718 - 01/02/14 05:15 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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The SAB is for inoculation only, yeah.
The syringe may very well still be viable if it's been left alone that whole time. Spores\endospores\oocysts are supposed to be hardy like that.
A fully colonized cake is fairly resistant to contamination (at least at first). Make sure you let it consolidate, and find a space up high off the ground for your FC, like the top shelf in a closet. Floors=nasty.
Take it slow and be very deliberate. No shits and giggles.
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: Quexl]
#19359756 - 01/02/14 05:21 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quexl said: The SAB is for inoculation only, yeah.
....and then.....it hit me....SAB-still air box....
I was thinking wait all these people are suggesting this SAB contraption when he could just inoc in a still air box and fruit in a relatively clean place...

Do what everyone else said. I basically restated it in a long drawn out way lol.
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
#19359763 - 01/02/14 05:23 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quexl said: The SAB is for inoculation only, yeah.
not mine
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Edited by cronicr (01/02/14 05:25 PM)
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Quexl

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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: cronicr]
#19359838 - 01/02/14 05:37 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Sporegasm! I actually used my first SAB as both an incubator, and then a FC. I know what you mean.
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: cronicr]
#19359854 - 01/02/14 05:40 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Should I turn off and drain the toilet of its water as well or would that create dried mold spores that would be easier carried around the room?
That would have the opposite effect. The water would be splashing around as it drains and that releases bacteria into the air. Just drop the lid.
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bigd17
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Re: Using a bathroom as stealth grow room? [Re: Kizzle]
#19366269 - 01/03/14 11:04 PM (10 years, 27 days ago) |
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You guys are awesome thank you for all of the advice andi haven't moved to using agar yet but I keep being told it is by far the best and easiest way to store cultures and start new batches.
I have to be honest I've been a member for for years and have made a small handful of unsuccessful attempts mainly due to nosy relatives aka living at moms house... ahhh high school...
Anyways this will be my first attempt in over a year and is mainly practice to trial and error out the final bugs/things I hadn't thought of or taken into consideration so that once my fresh spores come in I will be ready to rock and roll.
I have to say though I have spent alot of the past four years on here simply searching and reading and I never cease to learn new things which is to be expected but sometimes it just surprises me of the simple things I learn and wonder why I hadn't come across in the past. (Probably has something to do with never encountering problems due to lack of success in the earliest stages haha).
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