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Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT?
    #19359008 - 01/02/14 03:02 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Okay, so I've had an interest in ayahuasca/DMT since I was a teenager and by now I have what a I regard as pretty advanced knowledge. I've read all the essentials (DMT: Spirit Molecule, Supernatural, TiKHAL, etc.) and experienced smoking DMT for the first time in the last few months (probably around 12 times now). Just trying to qualify here.

Now, of course, the one awful thing about smoking it (besides that it can be pretty terrifying and fries my lungs) is that everything is SO damned fleeting. I can't really get a grip on any of the cool stuff that I'm experiencing. It's all just such a whirlwhind rocketblast tour of another dimension that I feel like I'm missing a lot.

My question is: what are my other options?

I've seen ayahuasca kits on here, are they legit? Any good recent TEKs or advice to cut the nausea? Any other sources of P. viridia and B. caapi?

What exactly is 'pharmahuasca'?

Could an MAOI be used in conjunction with smoking it to slow the metabolism as it does orally?

Has anyone actually used it IM? I imagine it'd have to be pretty pure...

What is the latest on phallaris grass? I used to keep current on it, but interest lagged after awhile. I HAVE p. aquatica seeds but as I remember theres some sort of harmful alkaloid in those and it has to be vaped or something? Any info in this vein is appreciated.

Oh, what are your guys preffered vendors of DMT on here? Best quality/prices/trusted vendor?

Thanks a lot. Not to be a weirdo but my recent experiences with DMT and LSD have been really postive and have helped me out of a sort of creeping malaise.

... and I haven't seen any machine elves yet!!!


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: AgentClaret]
    #19359166 - 01/02/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Pharmahuasca is just a slang term that means ayahuasca using extracted DMT and extracted harmaline or another MAOI. It's basically ayahuasca without the burden of ingesting a foul-tasting liquid. Best way to go, in my opinion.

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What is the latest on phallaris grass? I used to keep current on it, but interest lagged after awhile. I HAVE p. aquatica seeds but as I remember theres some sort of harmful alkaloid in those and it has to be vaped or something? Any info in this vein is appreciated.




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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: s240779]
    #19359182 - 01/02/14 03:37 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Why is it you wish to trawel? Where do you wish to trawel?


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: s240779]
    #19359201 - 01/02/14 03:42 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Pharmahuasca is just a slang term that means ayahuasca using extracted DMT and extracted harmaline or another MAOI. It's basically ayahuasca without the burden of ingesting a foul-tasting liquid. Best way to go, in my opinion.




Ah, I see, thanks! Sounds good to me, I already have a very weak stomach.

Anyone know about Changa? I've heard about it but would like to know more...


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: AgentClaret]
    #19359225 - 01/02/14 03:47 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Da2ra said:
Pharmahuasca is just a slang term that means ayahuasca using extracted DMT and extracted harmaline or another MAOI. It's basically ayahuasca without the burden of ingesting a foul-tasting liquid. Best way to go, in my opinion.




Ah, I see, thanks! Sounds good to me, I already have a very weak stomach.

Anyone know about Changa? I've heard about it but would like to know more...





what he FAILED to say is that you also lose a lot other plant alkaloids and he also forgot that the experience with pharma is not so good if you want to keep the experience... and not just forget.:aweyeah:

But yea the taste is a bit better with pharma.. FOR WEAK ASS PUSSYS ! :baaaam:

Man UP you MOFOS !


Edited by rikuni (01/02/14 03:48 PM)


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: AgentClaret]
    #19359254 - 01/02/14 03:53 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Anyone know about Changa? I've heard about it but would like to know more...




Changa is Caapi leaf infused with DMT using a solvent. It's a smokable version of Aya, it grounds the DMT and extends the effects slightly.


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: rikuni]
    #19359296 - 01/02/14 04:00 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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what he FAILED to say is that you also lose a lot other plant alkaloids and he also forgot that the experience with pharma is not so good if you want to keep the experience... and not just forget.:aweyeah:

But yea the taste is a bit better with pharma.. FOR WEAK ASS PUSSYS ! :baaaam:

Man UP you MOFOS !




Well, I know there's a way to do a crude DMT extraction and the end product is called "jungle spice", so that should be equivalent to the brew. The efficacy of anything other than N,N-DMT is questionable, from what I understand.


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: s240779]
    #19359320 - 01/02/14 04:03 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Thanks, everyone!

What is the duration of changa? I'm sure it's not on the level with ayahuasca but it seems like it'd be a little more evenly paced than the lightning strike drive by shooting that smoking it is.

As for the aya/pharma argument... I think the best option for me would be to experience both, right? I mean the whole thing is just so subjective...


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: rikuni]
    #19359321 - 01/02/14 04:03 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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rikuni said:
what he FAILED to say is that you also lose a lot other plant alkaloids and he also forgot that the experience with pharma is not so good if you want to keep the experience... and not just forget.:aweyeah:

But yea the taste is a bit better with pharma.. FOR WEAK ASS PUSSYS ! :baaaam:

Man UP you MOFOS !




Considering it's the exact same ingredients, why would you forget?


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Re: Who here is VERY knowledgeable about ayahuasca/DMT? [Re: AgentClaret]
    #19359353 - 01/02/14 04:11 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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What is the duration of changa? I'm sure it's not on the level with ayahuasca but it seems like it'd be a little more evenly paced than the lightning strike drive by shooting that smoking it is.





I never really timed my pure DMT break throughs or my Changa break throughs, but I think it really depends on the person. I have gotten some really weak Changa before. I've also had a real Ayahuasca ceremony where it was just like a DMT break through. So every experience is different and it's quite hard to describe. I've only had Aya twice and the second time it reminded me a lot more of DMT is all ( Aliens / machines) whilst the first time was a lot more organic. Hard to put in words I guess, the best way is to experience it yourself and come up with your own conclusions.


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