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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: SnowArcher]
    #19352978 - 12/31/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's what NAKOR is sayin' happy 2014


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19353873 - 01/01/14 07:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I like the term bio-restoration much better.  This way you include all the various organisms together along with fungi.  I didn't have much luck filtering e-coli out of runoff water with mushroom substrates because they can't keep up with the flow.  Most fecal contaminants are right on the surface, so you don't need to filter anything but the top 1mm or so.  Skimming the surface to remove or filter the bacteria seems like a better plan.  It could even be diverted to ponds and aerated.
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Since I'll have a lab at my disposal soon in my student research, my plan was to isolate and test many sub-strains of the fungi until I find one that has very high filtration ability, then clone it in myco-totes for transport of the spawn...I'm going to use other students to help me,lol  Kids are great..go go gadget myco club.. hehe


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19354142 - 01/01/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19354156 - 01/01/14 10:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v9/n3/full/nrmicro2519.html



Indeed... Just for the record...psilocybe mushrooms are the best choice for remediation of chemical nerve agents such as vx and sarin...so in essence..we need to grow magic mushrooms as an issue of national defense. :wink:


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19354174 - 01/01/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:sun: Do you have other publications mentioning this?


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19354502 - 01/01/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mycelium Running


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19358214 - 01/02/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #19358590 - 01/02/14 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19359557 - 01/02/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19364217 - 01/03/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder if All bioligial life accumulates biotoxins (such as radiation) or if only some species accumulate toxins and make them inert.. I know it is not just limited to mushrooms (but mushrooms do seem to be the professionals)... I would theorize the ones that don't make biotoxins inert, may actually use them to create poison or venom? Just a thought.. (such as those posion octopus, or posion mushroom).. Either way it still looks like it translates or interprets the biotoxin into it's own toxin. Nevertheless, I have found the most fundamental trait of any life form is interpretation. how and what we interpret things into. It makes us what we are and determines what use we are to others, in the larger... web of life


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: curiositydream]
    #19366840 - 01/04/14 04:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms that hyper-accumulate radioactive isotopes do not render them inert....the mushrooms need to be harvested and disposed of properly...the isotopes are still radioactive...


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19368183 - 01/04/14 01:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Figured I would expand on my post from earlier, just for fun.

Fukushima


"It’s not even dangerous to swim off the coast of Fukushima. Buessler et al. figured out how much radiation damage you would get if you doggie paddled about Fukushima (Yes, science has given us radioactive models of human swimmers). It was less than 0.03% of the daily radiation an average Japanese resident receives. Tiny! Hell, the radiation was so small even immediately after the accident scientists did not wear any special equipment to handle the seawater samples (but they did wear detectors just in case). If you want danger, you’re better off licking the dial on an old-school glow in the dark watch."


So, what is the plan then?  To grow mushrooms in irradiated sites with the hope that they will absorb the radiation & then take them to WIPP?


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: SnowArcher]
    #19368631 - 01/04/14 02:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am all in for participating in whatever way possible. I am on the left coast so just let me know how and if I may be of service.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: JeanDeaugh]
    #19372173 - 01/05/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good morning (or good day).

I want to visually kick off this conversation. I truly hope you'll join me and contribute over the coming weeks and months.

At first this will seem like a puzzle or altogether useless. It's up to YOU to put the puzzle together WITH one another in calm, neutral unity.

Below: The periodic table of elements



Below: "Zoom" on the chemical element Cesium (= Caesium)



For a moment, think of Cesium (= Caesium) as a GENUS. In the genus are several species (isotopes). The isotope we're initially interested in, with regard to bioremediation, is Cesium-137 (= Caesium-137 or Cs-137).



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_effects_from_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

http://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles/how-mushrooms-can-clean-radioactive-contamination-8-step-plan

Don't let this thread become ironless. Hit it with some love.


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: The Lightning]
    #19373160 - 01/05/14 01:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I suppose the first line of business for the fukushima mycologists would be to identify the intoxicants, then identify the mushrooms that respond to these intoxicants (in the means of bioaccumulation).. That is beyond me as I don't know the specifics, but we would hope there are some good mycologists working on it. I have heard paul staments have input on the subject of fukushima. also the disaster might be of such a large scope that even every mushroom of an entire species may not have enough impact


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: curiositydream]
    #19373337 - 01/05/14 02:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's a matter of isolating and individually testing each sub-strain of the fungi in order to find the one genetic code with the best remediation ability....then cloning it as far as it will go and still retain those sought after properties..


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19373506 - 01/05/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I like the term bio-restoration much better.  This way you include all the various organisms together along with fungi.  I didn't have much luck filtering e-coli out of runoff water with mushroom substrates because they can't keep up with the flow.  Most fecal contaminants are right on the surface, so you don't need to filter anything but the top 1mm or so.  Skimming the surface to remove or filter the bacteria seems like a better plan.  It could even be diverted to ponds and aerated.
RR




You are right about utilizing the other organisms in their remediationary niche.. bio-restoration is the umbrella under which myco-restoration would fall..indeed. much work to be done in this science...


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Re: Lets talk mycorestoration... [Re: Nakor420]
    #19373684 - 01/05/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

We should also consider "extremophiles" such as the species of Firmicutes known to live off of radiation!

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/4229.html

http://cips.berkeley.edu/events/planets-life-seminar/lin.pdf


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