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Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization
    #19354957 - 01/01/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I inoculated B+ and Pink Buffalo's and the colonization looks very different. The B+ are forming 2-3 circles that grow and are now pretty large, very round circles. The Buffalo's aren't forming circles but rather semi-circular clustered patches. The Pink Buffalo's aren't as far in the colonization process, but the B+ even started different with a penny size white spot that grew. Just curious if this is a sign of anything.

Also oddly the Pink Buffalo jars facing indirect sunlight occasionally aren't colonizing but the 3 jars facing the wall away from sunlight at all times are. I'm aware from research that light shouldn't effect a grow, I have read mixed opinions between darkness and occasional light. I personally believe a little light would help stimulate a grow. My questions are - Does indirect sunlight slow down colonization? Also I assume direct sunlight would be the sun beating directly on it since the ones facing the wall are still getting some sun but not much is it possible the ones facing the room - tho aren't getting direct sunlight - are getting too much?

Just a add on, do this jars look healthy so far? This is my first grow, I'm very excited and have only picked them up to take these pictures.

Pink Buffalo's inoculated 12-28 B+ inoculated about 2-3 weeks ago.






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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #19355079 - 01/01/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

in direct light is benefitial at all stages of growth. it's hard to tell from those blurry pix but your growth seems fine.


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19355093 - 01/01/14 03:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Is there a reason they're colonizing different as far as shapes? All jars are colonizing different - 6 buffalo's are colonizing spread out and 6 B+ are making concentrated large circles like the pics. I don't think it's a problem but I'm curious if there's a reason from what I know all cubensis are the same. Also the jars colonize but only on sides away from light is it visible, I should of made that clear. Just thought that was strange.

Another question I have is I'm pretty sure the B+ are gonna be fully colonized a week or so before the Buffalo's. I would prefer fruiting in the same terrarium. I'm assuming it would be better to let the B+ sit a extra week (2 weeks after full colonization) and birth them together? The reason I have this assumption is if I birth them at different times the perlite may lose water before the second birthed cakes are fully fruited.

Or would it be best to build two terrariums?


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #19355275 - 01/01/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Iv only used grain so I'm not sure how cakes normally colonize but I would guess the difference in growth has to do with genetics.

As far as using 2 fruiting chambers. I would say just wait and use 1. having more cakes in your FC will make it easier to maintain humidity. its good to let cakes consolidate after full colonization anyway.

Like I said my experience is limited to grains spawned to bulk so you may wont to wait for someone with cake experience to giv. their opinion.


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19355455 - 01/01/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

simply put, it's just the result of starting with spores:thumbup:


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: cronicr]
    #19355788 - 01/01/14 06:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i love when they grow in a perfect circle like that


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19356083 - 01/01/14 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm really stoked, I got 12 jars with no signs of contam so far. 6 B+ 6 Pink Buffalo's and this is my first grow.

What do you guys dunk them in? I was thinking each in its' own ziploc bag in a bucket in case they leak - hopefully I'll find ziploc bags that seal well enough I'll test them before hand. I'll prolly have close to 12 cakes to dunk.

Also would distilled or drinking water be better then tap water? I imagine the fluoride can't be too good for the cakes.

Can you allow them to consolidate too long? Like is waiting 2-3 weeks after full colonization so I can birth all 12 at the same time bad?


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #19356111 - 01/01/14 08:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What do you guys dunk them in?



Tap water in a big pot.

Never use distilled water....just use tap water.

You cannot consolidate for too long.....2-3 weeks should be fine.


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #19356123 - 01/01/14 08:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

longer consolidation for cakes is better so yea thats fine, they can even pin in the jar before u dunk them.
i just dunk in a soup pot or plastic bucket with tap water and i live in a big city where tap water not the best. not sure about the distilled water tho. b sure to submerge them completely, which is easier in pot/bucket than ziplock bag.
i use tap water to mist them too, just be sure to change the spray bottle water every two days or so to keep it fresh.
with so many cakes, u should spawn at least one to coir/verm just to try.  thats what i did when i started.  its easy and u will learn a lot doing it so when u move to grains, u already have an idea of what u r going for.  my first grows were 6 1/2 pints from vendor, i spawn 1 of them and other 5 were cakes

cakes from first grow:


1/2 pint spawned to coir/verm:


did much better, but it was also cause i was so new, i didn't let cake consolidate so pins were so few, but when spawning, its best to have 100% colonization without consolidation, so thats why the coir did better.


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19356126 - 01/01/14 08:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

damn NAH beat me again!


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19356209 - 01/01/14 08:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't even know about Coir, I did research definitely seems like a worthwhile experience thanks for the heads up.

This maybe dumb but I tried searching and couldn't find much, does the terrarium for cakes require 1/4" holes every 2"? The PF Tek says 1/2" of perlite but the video "Lets Grow Mushrooms" shows it as high as the side of his 4 fingers. These are very different measurements which one do you go with?

Also you spray it indirectly 4 times a day, I'm assuming indirectly means spraying above the cakes and letting it "rain" on them? Also I imagine spraying the sides of the container. I also read the more you spray it a day the better, how many times is optimal? Can they be sprayed too much?

I know I'm a noob but I've tripped mushroom's a lot, and growing them is as fun as eating them - and I haven't even finished growing them yet lol :-)


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #19356225 - 01/01/14 08:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Lyghtsout said:
I didn't even know about Coir, I did research definitely seems like a worthwhile experience thanks for the heads up.

This maybe dumb but I tried searching and couldn't find much, does the terrarium for cakes require 1/4" holes every 2"? The PF Tek says 1/2" of perlite but the video "Lets Grow Mushrooms" shows it as high as the side of his 4 fingers. These are very different measurements which one do you go with?

Also you spray it indirectly 4 times a day, I'm assuming indirectly means spraying above the cakes and letting it "rain" on them? Also I imagine spraying the sides of the container. I also read the more you spray it a day the better, how many times is optimal? Can they be sprayed too much?

I know I'm a noob but I've tripped mushroom's a lot, and growing them is as fun as eating them - and I haven't even finished growing them yet lol :-)




Yes, SGFC requires 1/4" holes ever 2 inches in a grid.

4" seems to be recommended perlite for sgfc

Yep, as for my understanding you spray above and let it "rain" as you put it.  Mist then fan for best results

And yes you can overdo misting, and you can not mist enough.  The most important thing is that after misting you fan the chamber out profusely.


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Re: Two strains colonizing different and light during colonization [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19356242 - 01/01/14 08:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mist the cakes directly with a fine mist until they glisten, then fan out the chamber.

Mist again once the water you previously applied to the cakes has evaporated.


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