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Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law
#19354837 - 01/01/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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By David Ferguson Wednesday, January 1, 2014 14:34 EST FL Gov. Rick Scott (R) on CNN 121912
A federal judge in Orlando, Florida ruled Tuesday that the state’s law requiring drug tests from all applicants for public assistance is unconstitutional. According to the New York Times, Judge Mary S. Scriven found that the law — Tea Party Gov. Rick Scott (R)’s signature piece of legislation — violates the U.S. Constitution’s protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.
“The court finds there is no set of circumstances under which the warrantless, suspicionless drug testing at issue in this case could be constitutionally applied,” Scriven wrote.
The decision made permanent an earlier temporary hold she placed on the law, which was passed by the Republican-controlled state legislature and signed by Scott in 2011. Scott is refusing to back down, saying in a statement on Tuesday that the law was designed to ensure that children aren’t being raised in homes headed by drug users.
“Any illegal drug use in a family is harmful and even abusive to a child,” read the statement. “We should have a zero tolerance policy for illegal drug use in families — especially those families who struggle to make ends meet and need welfare assistance to provide for their children. We will continue to fight for Florida children who deserve to live in drug-free homes by appealing this judge’s decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals.”
Reuters reported in 2011 that — during the short time it was allowed to proceed before courts put a stop to it — the testing found a much lower rate of drug use among applicants for public assistance than in the population at large. Less than two percent of applicants tested positive for drugs.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services found that around eight percent of the general population ages 12 and older report using illicit drugs. The high cost of testing applicants and low rate of denial of benefits ultimately meant that Scott’s plan cost the state more to implement than it saved.
Right-wing legislators have pushed similar laws through in other states, including Georgia, which is currently watching the outcome of the Florida case before proceeding with its own plan to test welfare recipients.
Grant Smith, policy manager of the Drug Policy Alliance, told the New York Times that Tuesday’s ruling is a milestone.
“This new ruling should give pause,” he said, to legislators who favor this type of testing. “We have seen a number of proposals continue to be put forward across the country, but the writing is on the wall that requiring people to submit to drug testing for no reason other than being poor and in need of assistance is not going to pass constitutional muster. It’s not fair, it’s not cost effective, and it’s unreasonable.”
David Ferguson David Ferguson is an editor at Raw Story. He was previously writer and radio producer in Athens, Georgia, hosting two shows for Georgia Public Broadcasting and blogging at Firedoglake.com and elsewhere. He is currently working on a book.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/01/federal-judge-strikes-down-florida-gov-rick-scotts-welfare-drug-testing-law/
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: Simplepowa]
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florida of all places should have said it was ok.
but to keep the trend of florida having the most fucked up news...
they are staying right on course.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: rackem]
#19354961 - 01/01/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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rackem said: florida of all places should have said it was ok.
but to keep the trend of florida having the most fucked up news...
they are staying right on course.
Sadly I agree, we in FL usually do stupid shit... its probably our humidity?
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: dark3st]
#19355108 - 01/01/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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gotta be something man..
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: rackem]
#19355197 - 01/01/14 03:46 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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In all honesty, Welfare drug testing would just be rich white republicans racially discriminating against black people, because you know they all smoke weed. It was a racist idea to begin with, they knew it, and that's why it was struck down. And don't even call me racist for saying this because you know its true.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: ShiVersblood] 1
#19355230 - 01/01/14 03:53 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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all types of people are on welfare man.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: ShiVersblood]
#19355231 - 01/01/14 03:53 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Ya but lots of white people are on welfare they just don't flaunt it around like Superbowl tickets.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: dark3st]
#19357352 - 01/02/14 05:17 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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if i have to pass a drug test for my job, then why cant some junkie pass one to get a handful of free money..
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19357384 - 01/02/14 05:58 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: dark3st]
#19357595 - 01/02/14 08:47 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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the only down side to that is, the real cracked out ones will start to break into homes and get caught, in return cost taxpayers more to keep them in jail. but fuck em right?
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19357615 - 01/02/14 08:59 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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The other downside is that its expensive. Last time Florida did this shit they spent more money on testing than they saved by withholding benefits.
But hey, people on welfare using drugs are just "junkies" right?
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: badchad]
#19357643 - 01/02/14 09:14 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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yeah i suppose its expensive but where i live we get roadside drug test just as much as breath tests...
and yeah im not a fan of having to pay for someone to spend all there money on drugs and still live on the streets.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller] 1
#19357674 - 01/02/14 09:28 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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The major difference is that with roadside testing, individuals may be an imminent threat to other drivers. This isn't the case with welfare drug testing.
The problem I have with drug testing welfare recipients is that you're arbitrarily selecting for a single behavior (drug use). There's no real rationale for trying to limit the use of drugs, but not other questionable behaviors.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller] 2
#19357729 - 01/02/14 09:48 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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People always have the same stupid argument for drug testing. " I get tested for my job, so should everyone else." A smarter comment would be. Given how much money is made by drug testing companies, the entire system of drug testing is corrupt and shoukd be eliminated. Also, as a citizen of the US, I have a right against search and seizure without a warrant. No one in the US shoukd be forced to give their urine to someone else without a warrent. The point is that instead of getting rid of all drug testing, dumb people want more people tested in order to further erode our rights and make drug testing companies obscenely rich! Unless you like people into a cup and making money for corporations, why would any American be for MORE drug testing?
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: lwheidt]
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our roadside tests only consist of a mouth swab, takes no more than 5mins
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19357775 - 01/02/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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forrest_dweller said: yeah i suppose its expensive but where i live we get roadside drug test just as much as breath tests...
and yeah im not a fan of having to pay for someone to spend all there money on drugs and still live on the streets.
Yeah, but it's so easy to fake drug tests, that only the stupidest of the stupid will be caught. And who is paying for all those drug tests? Yep, the taxpayers.
So would you rather pay for a small handful of junkies to live on the street, or would you rather pay for every single welfare recipient to have their privacy invaded in a way that won't even catch most drug users?
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19357785 - 01/02/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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The only people who should be drug tested are politicians, and there should be laws against passing legislation under the influence.BONG!
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19357820 - 01/02/14 10:27 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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forrest_dweller said: if i have to pass a drug test for my job, then why cant some junkie pass one to get a handful of free money..
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forrest_dweller said: yeah i suppose its expensive but where i live we get roadside drug test just as much as breath tests...
and yeah im not a fan of having to pay for someone to spend all there money on drugs and still live on the streets.
Why are you making such an unfounded claim that all people who receive government assistance are "junkies"?
And this law is basically a guilty until proven innocent one.
It's like a police officer trying to search your car and then uses the famous line, "Well, if you don't have anything to hide, why don't you mind if I search your car?".
We have constitutional rights and the system isn't designed for us to prosper, so I don't understand why there is a link or even an assumption that people who receive government assistance are drug users.
The government fucks you out of your money for much worse things than allowing lower income families to eat.
Get right.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19357894 - 01/02/14 10:55 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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forrest_dweller said: if i have to pass a drug test for my job, then why cant some junkie pass one to get a handful of free money..
You must be new..
If you do some research you will see why this is a terrible idea.
Also, guess who would have been supplying these drug tests? Solantic! Guess who owns the majority of Solantic? Yup, you guessed it, Rick Scott's family! "Let's make some money mothafuckazzz!"
Thank god this was turned down.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19358407 - 01/02/14 01:02 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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forrest_dweller said: if i have to pass a drug test for my job, then why shouldnt some junkie person pass one to get a handful of free money
I agree. From our tax dollars no less.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: Pureless] 1
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i rather pay for drug tests then some fuck up live in his moms house and collect welfare while he deals weed. So he can sit there and say the economy is down so i can't work. These people are fucking jokes period.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: AndersonCoopmasta]
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I know PLENTY of people that do this its disturbing.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: lwheidt]
#19359518 - 01/02/14 04:42 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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lwheidt said: Also, as a citizen of the US, I have a right against search and seizure without a warrant. No one in the US shoukd be forced to give their urine to someone else without a warrent.
You don't have rights. You have privileges and they can be taken away by anyone with more power than you.
If you don't believe me try thinking. They really hate that in this country!
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: badchad]
#19359774 - 01/02/14 05:25 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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badchad said: The other downside is that its expensive. Last time Florida did this shit they spent more money on testing than they saved by withholding benefits.
But hey, people on welfare using drugs are just "junkies" right?
Not to mention the rules and regulations that go into being on Welfare in the first place. Anyone thinking these people are "living it up" on the government dole is either willfully ignorant or downright cruel. Most Welfare recipients don't WANT to be on Welfare. It's humiliating, degrading, and not enough on its own (subsidized housing and EBT are often necessary as well). So, while I've never been on non-student loan government assistance (and I thank the gods and Fortuna for that) I certainly don't begrudge people who need the help whether they're "junkies" or not.
Then again, I am that bitch who will buy a homeless guy a sandwich and a 40 oz so what do I know?
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: dionysiandame]
#19359880 - 01/02/14 05:45 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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I agree with all that you said, who the Fuck wants to be on wellfair. Its bad enough I don't have the money to do anything for me anyway (I only have EBT, and unemployment and medicade Coming I'in) and life sucks I want to be on my own and many others as well.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: toader123]
#19360537 - 01/02/14 08:15 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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toader123 said:
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forrest_dweller said: if i have to pass a drug test for my job, then why cant some junkie pass one to get a handful of free money..
You must be new..
If you do some research you will see why this is a terrible idea.
Also, guess who would have been supplying these drug tests? Solantic! Guess who owns the majority of Solantic? Yup, you guessed it, Rick Scott's family! "Let's make some money mothafuckazzz!"
Thank god this was turned down.
no im not new, i have been posting and using this forum for years. each to the own i guess, this is just my opinion on this subject and there were bound to be people who disagree...
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: forrest_dweller]
#19360943 - 01/02/14 09:54 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Sorry brother. Didn't mean to come off as rude. To each their own.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: 4nik8] 2
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forrest_dweller said: if i have to pass a drug test for my job, then why cant some junkie pass one to get a handful of free money..
You make it sound like folks applying for welfare are junkies...
A very small percentage of applicants are actually "users" of drugs. 2.6% of the state’s cash assistance applicants failed the drug test, or 108 of 4,086. Taxpayers spent $118,140 to reimburse people for drug test costs, not counting attorneys and court fees and the thousands of hours of staff time it took to implement the policy
It's a ridiculous cost for such a petty thing.
And you really want to know why Florida wanted to implement this?...The governor of Florida, Rick Scott, co-founded Solantic, a chain of 32 urgent care centers in Florida that offers drug testing services. The governor has $62 million worth of the company’s shares, the biggest portion of his $218 million in wealth. Before he stepped into office and before all of this welfare drug testing was implemented, he transferred his shares into his Wife's name. It's obvious why, by doing so, this is legally not a conflict of interest in Florida. But in reality, this is all a huge fucking conflict of interest, promoting policies that will benefit his family financially. The dude is making money from it.
There's always a motive behind shit like this, and it's not to keep junkies from getting welfare .
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4nik8 said: The only people who should be drug tested are politicians...
In Indiana, there was a bill that would require welfare applicants to take a drug test. There was an amendment added to the bill, this amendment would require all legislators to be drug tested.
And guess what?...The entire bill was withdrawn once that amendment was added. . I believe the same thing happened in Kansas.
Also...relating to this topic. One of the lawmakers in Georgia that was pushing for welfare drug testing got caught driving all sorts of drunk around the time he was pushing for the bill. And I believe there was another similar case, where the lawmaker was caught in possession of cocaine.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: openmind]
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Thank you OM! 
It's nice to see someone actually read past the cover.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: toader123]
#19369343 - 01/04/14 05:23 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Please enlighten me?, since when does Florida have "Welfare"? This term seems to be boasted by the press to sell the story, we don't even have a bottle/can deposit for beverage containers because the state doesn't want to encourage the homeless to come here thinking they can live on the streets.
Florida has what is labeled "The Dept. Of Children And Families", they handle food stamps as well if you have kids they can assist you with housing and food and money if deemed. There is no actual "Welfare", like in new York where you get an apartment, money and the lot.
The press loves an easy sell on a story, so the hicks down in the south are always an easy target, any dam thing happens in Florida, sure enough we are painted as snake handlers.
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Re: Federal judge strikes down Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s welfare drug testing law [Re: A3eyedfish]
#19371873 - 01/05/14 09:06 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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A3eyedfish said:
The press loves an easy sell on a story, so the hicks down in the south are always an easy target, any dam thing happens in Florida, sure enough we are painted as snake handlers.
Well if the incestuous sister-fucking shoe fits.
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