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InvisibleAhab McBathsalts
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can a christian help me?
    #1935474 - 09/20/03 02:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

can you give me the part of the bible where jesus gets crusified? Its a pretty big book, and i have never heard more than a few paragraphs of it.

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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1935482 - 09/20/03 03:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

its in the first 4 books of the new testament, mathew mark luke and john, near the end of each book. Each one is a different persons account of the time period


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1935492 - 09/20/03 03:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

evilnick said:
can you give me the part of the bible where jesus gets crusified? Its a pretty big book, and i have never heard more than a few paragraphs of it.

Thanks.   





You went so long without using c's, just thought I would help out a little. :tongue:

Crucified

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.   


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1935494 - 09/20/03 03:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

thanks a bunch.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1935506 - 09/20/03 03:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

good luck in your searching, just keep in mind translations and true meanings of writters change over a long time period. and thats if what they were writing in the first place was even true. peace


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1935565 - 09/20/03 03:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The reason I ask, is because I saw The Crow the other night. And the part where he says "I have a joke, Jesus walkes into a hotel, puts three nails on the counter and says, can you put me up for the night"

Is it because he needs another nail, so he has to stay in a hotel instead? I really should read the bible on day so all the allusions in western literature make sense.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1936101 - 09/20/03 07:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The Gospel of John is the most detailed about Jesus's life. I suggest you read the whole book, not just where Jesus was crucified. You could learn a lot...


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1936216 - 09/20/03 08:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No, they used a nail in each hand, and stacked his feet and put one through both of them. He meant 'put me up for the night' as in hang me with these three nails.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: shakta]
    #1936321 - 09/20/03 10:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, many theologian nowadays believe that the nail actually went through the wrist. In Biblical times the "hand" constituted up to the middle of the forearm.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Funguy]
    #1936392 - 09/20/03 10:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yea, right between the two bones in the forearm. that way the flesh could rip, but the bones would stop the arm from being ripped right in half by the wieght of your body.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: purpleberries]
    #1936415 - 09/20/03 10:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

someone should tell the stigmata people to start bleeding from the wrists


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1936443 - 09/20/03 11:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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someone should tell the stigmata people to start bleeding from the wrists





LOL. Hands, wrists, whatever. I was explaining the joke.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: purpleberries]
    #1937283 - 09/21/03 07:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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yea, right between the two bones in the forearm. that way the flesh could rip, but the bones would stop the arm from being ripped right in half by the wieght of your body. 




Please... not so graphic!  :frown:

Sometimes us with graphic imaginations and can recreate experiences get exposed to some fucked up imagery... :grin:
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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1937813 - 09/21/03 02:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That's exactly right! It's another case of how one's expectations effect one's religious experience. Ian Wilson's 'The Shroud of Turin' and more modern books show how the small bones of the wrist can be parted to allow a nail through, and then the tendons snap closed around the nail. Corpses have been crucified to prove that their weight could be supported in this way. The palm won't work unless the body is also tied to the cross-beam.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: shakta]
    #1937850 - 09/21/03 02:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ok, thats what i thought at first, but then someone told me that he had a nail in each foot, and i got so confused. so, thanks everyone.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1938507 - 09/21/03 08:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The Romans had several different ways of crucifying people. Sometimes it was through the palms with the arms tied, sometimes through the wrist. Here are some other things that happened during Christ's crucifixtion:

1. Christ was naked while being beaten, carrying his cross, and hanging on the cross. Crucifixtion was not only a death penalty, but the ultimate humiliation as well.

2. He was beaten with a Cat-of-nine-tails for a long amount of time. Some scholars say he was only beaten 39 times, to near death, bacause 40 would be death. But this is the "law" of the Jews, the Romans could have whipped him up to 200 times. In other words, he was most likely hanging on the cross with his intestines just about to fall out.

Most of you know that I am a Christian, and Christians are supposed to share their faith with others to bring them to Christ. I'm so very sorry about the way fellow Christians (whether they truly are or not) have been over the years, and recently. But many people do not truly realized what Christ did for them.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Funguy]
    #1938692 - 09/21/03 09:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Christians can help you in alot of ways friend.


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #1938718 - 09/21/03 09:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

For future reference:

http://bible.gospelcom.net/

Bible Gateway - Search the Bible in Nine Languages and Multiple Bible Versions


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: Funguy]
    #1938927 - 09/21/03 11:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What can the bible teach me besides the fact I am doomed to spend all eternity in hell?


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Re: can a christian help me? [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #1939021 - 09/21/03 11:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The Bible contains:
1. Exotic sex stories (Song of Solomon)
2. How to live a fulfilled life
3. How to be a better person
4. Supernatural events
5. The ultimate truth.

Even many Christians (including me) do not know as much about the Bible as we should. I've been doing daily Bible readings and have learned a lot recently. If you truly want to learn more about the Bible, start with John. Keep reading the NT until you think you understand it. Nelson's Study Bible is my favorite, because at the bottom of the page it explains the verses. After you finish reading the NT, move to the OT.


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