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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: Aopocetx]
#19368618 - 01/04/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Aopocetx said: Put some poison dart frogs in there too. That would be awesome.
Yeah,I love Reptiles,and Amphibians,but I doubt you could ever find those for sale,and you'd probably have a better chance of just going to the Amazon
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19370930 - 01/05/14 12:21 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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They definitely are not all that hard to find, at least if you live near a major population center. Fairly pricy though. Dendrobates is one genus that includes a bunch of different commercially available varieties.
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: psi]
#19371552 - 01/05/14 06:54 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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psi said: They definitely are not all that hard to find, at least if you live near a major population center. Fairly pricy though. Dendrobates is one genus that includes a bunch of different commercially available varieties.
Wow man,Thanks for the tip,I'm going to do a little searching,and see if I can't acquire me a couple somewhere down the line.I'm supposed to be moving back to Florida this summer,so I'm going to start collecting all the reptiles I can when I do
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19371555 - 01/05/14 06:55 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19371557 - 01/05/14 06:56 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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I already found some,and they are cheap!
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Aopocetx
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19371846 - 01/05/14 08:54 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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Don't they have an alkaloid that's an opiate 10000x stronger than morphine or something like that? Or do they have curare?
It should never be ingested though. The dosage would be way too hard to get right. You fuck up slightly and you're dead.
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psi
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: Aopocetx]
#19371953 - 01/05/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 26 days ago) |
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IIRC they are not lethal in captivity because they need certain ants or something in their diet to produce the toxins. Curare comes from plant sources I think, different toxins but used similarly in hunting.
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: psi]
#19374371 - 01/05/14 07:09 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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psi said: IIRC they are not lethal in captivity because they need certain ants or something in their diet to produce the toxins. Curare comes from plant sources I think, different toxins but used similarly in hunting.
This is correct. They are not poisonous in captivity. A good friend of mine has tons of poison dart frogs including the Blue Azureus one pictured above, he breeds them for trade and sale on some herp forum.
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: theMallacht]
#19376107 - 01/06/14 07:24 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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psi said: IIRC they are not lethal in captivity because they need certain ants or something in their diet to produce the toxins. Curare comes from plant sources I think, different toxins but used similarly in hunting.
This is correct. They are not poisonous in captivity. A good friend of mine has tons of poison dart frogs including the Blue Azureus one pictured above, he breeds them for trade and sale on some herp forum.
I'm going to attempt my hand at some,if I can get back down to Florida.I think they would thrive down there,and possibly breed:-)It's just too cold up here during the winter months,and this old house even with the heat on it's as cold as ice
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Aopocetx
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: theMallacht]
#19376401 - 01/06/14 08:56 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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psi said: IIRC they are not lethal in captivity because they need certain ants or something in their diet to produce the toxins. Curare comes from plant sources I think, different toxins but used similarly in hunting.
This is correct. They are not poisonous in captivity. A good friend of mine has tons of poison dart frogs including the Blue Azureus one pictured above, he breeds them for trade and sale on some herp forum.
Interesting. Does he make good money from it?
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badlands54
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: Aopocetx]
#19387014 - 01/08/14 09:20 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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UPDATE 8/01/14I dunno what this is, but there's even more of them since I took this pic, kinda looks like cress. They're super fast growers too, this one doubled in size since I took the pic last night. Must mean I'm doing something right, good too see the moss is surviving too. Lichens on the stick are brighter than ever.  More than happy to inbox or make a journal on how to make one of these suckas and the watering/lighting routine
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: badlands54]
#19387023 - 01/08/14 09:22 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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I would let that dry out just a tad bit,but other than that,it looks good
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badlands54
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19387077 - 01/08/14 09:35 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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KBG1977 said: I would let that dry out just a tad bit,but other than that,it looks good
I spray it three times every evening, I'd literally just sprayed it when I took the pic haha
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: badlands54]
#19387118 - 01/08/14 09:47 AM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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KBG1977 said: I would let that dry out just a tad bit,but other than that,it looks good
I spray it three times every evening, I'd literally just sprayed it when I took the pic haha
I thought you had just sprayed it,but I had to check anyway
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badlands54
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19392649 - 01/09/14 08:32 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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 Turned my aquarium into a growery, I wanna grow something in it that you can harvest. Any ideas guys?
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: badlands54]
#19392663 - 01/09/14 08:38 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Turned my aquarium into a growery, I wanna grow something in it that you can harvest. Any ideas guys?
Oh dude,you're gonna go all out! Hmm,I would think if you want things to harvest,you could make it an herb garden,and grow varieties of plants that don't get too tall/big.Perhaps some Parsley,Thyme,Oregano,etc.
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19392754 - 01/09/14 09:12 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Turned my aquarium into a growery, I wanna grow something in it that you can harvest. Any ideas guys?
Oh dude,you're gonna go all out! Hmm,I would think if you want things to harvest,you could make it an herb garden,and grow varieties of plants that don't get too tall/big.Perhaps some Parsley,Thyme,Oregano,etc.
Go hard or go home bud! To be honest its just an empty fish tank with 3 of its sides lined with kitchen foil hahaha, ive just stuck a good load of compost in there, think it'll be too small for a poppy, herbs may be the best bet, you dont happen to know how tall camomile grows do you?
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: badlands54]
#19392781 - 01/09/14 09:21 AM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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What size tank,29 gallon?I can't really tell.Chamomile would be a good one,as it stays under a foot tall,and has a spread of one to three feet.You can always trim the plants up,to keep the compact,and bushy too:-)Give me a few more weeks,and after I get moved,I'm going to start up possibly a 55 gallon!
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: KBG1977]
#19403621 - 01/11/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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KBG1977 said: What size tank,29 gallon?I can't really tell.Chamomile would be a good one,as it stays under a foot tall,and has a spread of one to three feet.You can always trim the plants up,to keep the compact,and bushy too:-)Give me a few more weeks,and after I get moved,I'm going to start up possibly a 55 gallon!
Not sure mate, must be near that though. Have ordered spearmint seeds, lemon balm seeds and peppermint seeds, theyve arrived today. Cant wait til i get back and sew them!
You'll have to keep me caught up on the 55 gallon man, that'll be awesome dude!
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KBG1977
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Re: Thinking of starting a coffee jar terrarium [Re: badlands54]
#19403629 - 01/11/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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KBG1977 said: What size tank,29 gallon?I can't really tell.Chamomile would be a good one,as it stays under a foot tall,and has a spread of one to three feet.You can always trim the plants up,to keep the compact,and bushy too:-)Give me a few more weeks,and after I get moved,I'm going to start up possibly a 55 gallon!
Not sure mate, must be near that though. Have ordered spearmint seeds, lemon balm seeds and peppermint seeds, theyve arrived today. Cant wait til i get back and sew them!
You'll have to keep me caught up on the 55 gallon man, that'll be awesome dude!
Right on man,bet you can't wait! I haven't quite decided on the 55 gallon,it's for my turtle,but he may get a pond dug instead:-)
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