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Re: Can't germinate poppies and other growing problems [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19372350 - 01/05/14 11:04 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

I can't advice how different morphine diacetate, heroin is compared to actual opium smoking, they are different stuff anyway.

Also opium morphine and codeine content makess things different, codeine metabolize to morphine in your system, codeine(methylated morphine) is basically inactive and enzymes break it to morphine. Opium content are hard to say how much there is morphine and methylated morphine and depends on person how much the codeine will effect the high. Some people seems to claim codeine totally inactive and another can say codeine gives very good high.. Well codeine high is basically morphine high and it starts after liver starts to metabolize methylated morphine to morphine. Your system produce morphine from codeine rougly 1-10% from taken codeine, rest of the stuff goes to "waste" basically. Therefor smoking ope, you need to test it but effects are almost similar to pure morphine, dosage of opium is not same to pure morphine tho.


It's tricky to say from smoked ope, it's for sure person feels morphine but how much codeine effect overall it depends totally who smoke it. Also tolerance have it's own rule, as well as thebaine what is not so strong narcotic opiate compared to morphine and codeine.

However, you should not try to compare opium tea or opium smoking to pure morphine.. One big reason is you don't know the exact morphine content and codeine basically "boost up" some and after codeine have metabolized partly to morphine it will effect also with the morphine.

There are also different strains of poppy, some have more codeine and some have less, some have more morphine in tar and some have less, so actual mass of opium doesn't tell you anything how much of stuff you have in the tar from plant.

When you know your poppy plants and know the opium how much you need to get effect, then you can basically know how much you can smoke it without overdose or so..

Effects are basically same than pharmaseutical strong opiates, oxys or morphine pills resemble the high of opium.

More different it makes you can't know about opium tar how much there really are active stuff because lots of opium are just inactive stuff with morphine, codeine and thebaine in it.

Basically only way to know how smoked opium tar effect to you is to take some amount of ope and smoke it and feel, better start from small and then dose up when you know what kind of effects you have. Also I suggest to use scale and weight your first patch of smoked ope so you know what effects certain amount of opium tar gives to you..

Codeine amount is relatively low in every opium tar so it doesn't make much of a different but because of it, another person can feel same opium more stronger compared to another, depends on your liver enzymes how much actual codeine are metabolized to morphine in your system or so..

Highest content of active alkaloid are still morphine in the opium tar, codeine gives some boost and it's purely up to person what kind of metabolism there is and how person react to codeine..

I can say from my self about 100mg of codeine is equal to 5-10mg of morphine for me. My brother says he feels codeine more stronger and he dose codeine about 30-50% of amount I have used to take codeine. But we are different persons.

However, codeine content are probably not so high there is danger of overdose because of it but that should be know when using opium and want to get high from it. What is good dose for you, can be overdose to your friend, also tolerance have big role with opiates, long term opiate use makes naturally your tolerance higher and long term users can take doses what are basically fatal amounts to people who have no tolerance at all.

With caution and knowing what stuff you are smoking or how strong pods you use to make tea, using opium is not a big risk, but addiction and tolerance are risk and cause withdrawals very easy. I don't suggest to use any opiates long time, more tolerance you build up, more harder the withdrawals are and more stuff you need to feel high.. later on you don't even feel high, you just get healthy by taking the dose.. I'm opiate addict, now using buprenorphine for pain and it's prescribed for me because it block also abuse of opiates.. Doctors doesn't wanted to prescribe me any "real opiates" because then I can use even codeine to get high.. Now with buprenorphine I can't feel the effects of codeine at all, also oxy's and other strong painkillers doesn't give me so pleasant high because of buprenorphine I use for pain.

Know your body and tolerance, then find out the potency of opium or poppy pods, then start to get high safely..

I would never try to have the "best high" from opium I have never smoked before to test out how potent it is.. There is always risk of smoking too much.. Remember; you can always take more, but never cancel the overdosing.

Usually opium and opium tea is not so strong it can lead to serious overdose but there are people who have died to opium tea or smoked opium.. Some have died from first big dose, some have died because they dose up constantly more and more.. Opiates cause human lungs to act slower, too much and you don't breath anymore and you need someone to save you in order to survive overdose of opiates.

I know one story and real acciden happened to smack addict couple. My friend had two syringes of smack at home, another dosed to his girlfriend and another to him. Well his girlfriend doesn't know that and have been injected his boyfriend stuff and stop breathing, without his boyfriend first aid and call of ambulance, that woman would be dead now. There was just issue, the man had probably bigger tolerance to smack compared to his gf and while he was away, his gf was accidentally taken wrong syringe and my friend found her lying on the floor and she doesn't breath but he managed to save her.

Even opium is not as strong as smack, it can kill.. With good knowledge of opiates and actual opium, you can use it safely and avoid accidentally taken overdose. Also dosing up more and more too constantly can lead to serious overdose. Same thing is with the tea, if you drink constantly more and more without counting how much you drink, it can suddenly go from good high to overdose and your lungs stop breathing because opiates effects to breathing so much. That's why codeine, morphine and heroin are very effective cough medicines because they effect your breath.

Therefor always with opiates like oxy's, smack, opium and few other "products" should be know the effects of the opiates totally, they will give nice pleasant an warm feeling and high but same time effects to breath are major reason why people die to overdose of opiates.

Big and small doses basically paralyze your lungs too big dose paralyze lungs totally and strong paralyzing effect to lungs are very good way to use opium as cough medicine. And you never know when it's too much taken your lungs doesn't work anymore, lungs are passively acting organism and because opium effects to lungs, always remember how much you have taken and remember to test out the product before take to get "very good high".. There are very small different compared to good high and overdose.. Always test your stuff with small dose before you dose big amounts. Tea or smoked.. Tea will effect with delay so it's basically more dangerous if used too much.


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Re: Can't germinate poppies and other growing problems [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19382266 - 01/07/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

Thank you, I keep in mind everything you adviced me!
Please, be very careful with bup(renorphine) not to combine it with opiates at all for I have lost several friends to this combo... I decided, personally, as best to turn to Nature totally and therefore opium, I wouldn't ever ever take those chems cause the pharma cartels keep experimenting on us everyday for profite and control, and am scared of bup and similar drugs whose effects to brain are not yet known to us.


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