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am i addicted to psychedelics
    #19353570 - 01/01/14 02:51 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

I have been tripping every sat for a real long time, usually on mushrooms, lately once a month i do something special. Like jedi flipping, mescal, super heroic doses like maoi with 8gs+, and most recently oral dmt. When i tell my friends i explain that its my form of therapy, since i get to talk to "the spirit in the sky" and everything.

  But is this just an excuse, and am i actually addicted to traditional psychs ?

Maybe is just drugs changing my thinking and justifying the use of them or maybe im just over thinking it

I do know i have a strong addictive personality been strung out bad on shit before but that is all in the past i wont touch those drugs again all i do now is psychedelics


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19353586 - 01/01/14 03:02 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Maybe it's become a habit of your's, but you're not physically addicted.


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: schwarg]
    #19353592 - 01/01/14 03:05 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Are you talking to the spirit? Is the spirit revealing positive things to you? Do you intend to use what you learn to help others and are able to do so ? Have you been able to dedicate time and money to your ventures with spending too much time or money ? Are you content?


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: schwarg]
    #19353595 - 01/01/14 03:06 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Yea i know im not psychically but im wondering if mentally come Fri all i can think about is what should i do sat

And if i pull being on call for work on a sat im all spaced out and feel as if i cant think straight for the next week


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19353602 - 01/01/14 03:09 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Im content and seems to only be affecting my life positively except for making me more introverted and crab like


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19353615 - 01/01/14 03:16 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Introversion is an under valued trait. People are often largely inconsistent, inconsiderate, and spiritually depraved. As for the fiending on Friday- practice being in the now. Obsessive thought patterns of using are a sign of addiction, but they're also just a natural primitive response to events that are good/pleasure able for us. Just remember the less you wear yourself out with obsessing Friday, the more frisky and energetic you'll be Saturday. The spirit likes high energy!


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: lot_justice]
    #19353625 - 01/01/14 03:23 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Yea maybe im just excited and enjoy it

I use to not be able to quit thinking about kayaking and other stuff if i new it was around the corner but the problem is well not necessarily a problem but i dont even plan the other stuff now


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: lot_justice]
    #19353635 - 01/01/14 03:31 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Also on introversion; a lot of it can arise from social situations of our times. I don't know your situation but I'd assume there are people you can't divulge your love of psychs to because they don't understand that psychs aren't like hard drugs such as heroin, and they may rat you out.

If kayaking was the new pattern of behavior taking over your previous love of psychs would you be worried that you were addicted to kayaking? Write out the list of benefits you were getting from the other activities that you valued. You may find they're still being met by some action in your routine, you no longer value the benefit over the cost of pursuing, or that you really are missing it and need make a conscious effort to perform the activity


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: lot_justice]
    #19353638 - 01/01/14 03:36 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Nah everyone i hangout with knows my love for them


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19353665 - 01/01/14 04:08 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

It's called a honeymoon phase. I'm going through a second, myself.

It'll pass.

You're not addicted to psychedelics, not physically.


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: lot_justice]
    #19353690 - 01/01/14 04:28 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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lot_justice said:
Introversion is an under valued trait. People are often largely inconsistent, inconsiderate, and spiritually depraved. As for the fiending on Friday- practice being in the now. Obsessive thought patterns of using are a sign of addiction, but they're also just a natural primitive response to events that are good/pleasure able for us. Just remember the less you wear yourself out with obsessing Friday, the more frisky and energetic you'll be Saturday. The spirit likes high energy!





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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19353717 - 01/01/14 04:45 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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lot_justice said:
Introversion is an under valued trait. People are often largely inconsistent, inconsiderate, and spiritually depraved. As for the fiending on Friday- practice being in the now. Obsessive thought patterns of using are a sign of addiction, but they're also just a natural primitive response to events that are good/pleasure able for us. Just remember the less you wear yourself out with obsessing Friday, the more frisky and energetic you'll be Saturday. The spirit likes high energy!





:rolleyes:




Yeah, that just about sums that up.

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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19353773 - 01/01/14 05:28 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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lot_justice said:
Introversion is an under valued trait. People are often largely inconsistent, inconsiderate, and spiritually depraved. As for the fiending on Friday- practice being in the now. Obsessive thought patterns of using are a sign of addiction, but they're also just a natural primitive response to events that are good/pleasure able for us. Just remember the less you wear yourself out with obsessing Friday, the more frisky and energetic you'll be Saturday. The spirit likes high energy!





:rolleyes:



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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS] * 1
    #19353879 - 01/01/14 07:24 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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1slow2v said:
I have been tripping every sat for a real long time, usually on mushrooms, lately once a month i do something special. Like jedi flipping, mescal, super heroic doses like maoi with 8gs+, and most recently oral dmt. When i tell my friends i explain that its my form of therapy, since i get to talk to "the spirit in the sky" and everything.

  But is this just an excuse, and am i actually addicted to traditional psychs ?

Maybe is just drugs changing my thinking and justifying the use of them or maybe im just over thinking it

I do know i have a strong addictive personality been strung out bad on shit before but that is all in the past i wont touch those drugs again all i do now is psychedelics




if the tripping is causing problems for you, and yet you continue to dose out of habit despite those negative consequences, then yes according to definition there's some addiction going on.  if you are comfortably functional in life, are showing no signs of psychosis, do not withdrawal when off the drug, then addiction isn't a fitting term.  You can obsess all you want about when your next trip is going to be but that doesn't change anything.  You're just fat in the head.


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: lot_justice]
    #19353897 - 01/01/14 07:38 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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Are you talking to the spirit? Is the spirit revealing positive things to you? Do you intend to use what you learn to help others and are able to do so ? Have you been able to dedicate time and money to your ventures with spending too much time or money ? Are you content?




Good thing to question yourself about

There are spirits that are helpful and spirits that will drain your energy and pretend to be helpful

The spirit of the mushroom is usually helpful, but only if you do your own work before tripping
eating healthy, grounding yourself, no other drugs before / during tripping i.e.
having an intention to heal yourself/help others etc.

The bad spirits will tell you anything you want to hear to make you feel good, but you never feel better next day from it

addiction: if you cant go a week without the drug
if it interferes with your social life, work or normal being

the learning is after the trip for me, but I have tripped once a week before too

usually only of half the dose you take, it sounds like a very high dose... wouldnt expect to be back to my usual self after a week with that dose

mind and body feels best without adding anything to it


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #19353999 - 01/01/14 08:55 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

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mio said:
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lot_justice said:
Are you talking to the spirit? Is the spirit revealing positive things to you? Do you intend to use what you learn to help others and are able to do so ? Have you been able to dedicate time and money to your ventures with spending too much time or money ? Are you content?




Good thing to question yourself about

There are spirits that are helpful and spirits that will drain your energy and pretend to be helpful

The spirit of the mushroom is usually helpful, but only if you do your own work before tripping
eating healthy, grounding yourself, no other drugs before / during tripping i.e.
having an intention to heal yourself/help others etc.

The bad spirits will tell you anything you want to hear to make you feel good, but you never feel better next day from it

addiction: if you cant go a week without the drug
if it interferes with your social life, work or normal being

the learning is after the trip for me, but I have tripped once a week before too

usually only of half the dose you take, it sounds like a very high dose... wouldnt expect to be back to my usual self after a week with that dose

mind and body feels best without adding anything to it




:facepalm:


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19354061 - 01/01/14 09:25 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

you'll get over it

i used to eat shrooms 3 times a week, and 2c-x on the days that I didn't.


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: morrowasted]
    #19354284 - 01/01/14 10:57 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Yea maybe, not sure if  hope so or not


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19354388 - 01/01/14 11:36 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

You aren't addicted, you are fixated


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Re: am i addicted to psychedelics [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19354634 - 01/01/14 12:58 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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MisterSandman said:
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mio said:
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lot_justice said:
Are you talking to the spirit? Is the spirit revealing positive things to you? Do you intend to use what you learn to help others and are able to do so ? Have you been able to dedicate time and money to your ventures with spending too much time or money ? Are you content?




Good thing to question yourself about

There are spirits that are helpful and spirits that will drain your energy and pretend to be helpful

The spirit of the mushroom is usually helpful, but only if you do your own work before tripping
eating healthy, grounding yourself, no other drugs before / during tripping i.e.
having an intention to heal yourself/help others etc.

The bad spirits will tell you anything you want to hear to make you feel good, but you never feel better next day from it

addiction: if you cant go a week without the drug
if it interferes with your social life, work or normal being

the learning is after the trip for me, but I have tripped once a week before too

usually only of half the dose you take, it sounds like a very high dose... wouldnt expect to be back to my usual self after a week with that dose

mind and body feels best without adding anything to it




:facepalm:



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Enjoywho said:
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lot_justice said:
Introversion is an under valued trait. People are often largely inconsistent, inconsiderate, and spiritually depraved. As for the fiending on Friday- practice being in the now. Obsessive thought patterns of using are a sign of addiction, but they're also just a natural primitive response to events that are good/pleasure able for us. Just remember the less you wear yourself out with obsessing Friday, the more frisky and energetic you'll be Saturday. The spirit likes high energy!





:rolleyes:





I must've missed the meeting which dictated that 2014 is to be a descent into ineffective communication, and that a condemning smiley is a worthwhile response to long posts. It's alright to disagree, but do us a solid and take the time to draw out which points of the argument you disagree with and why. Otherwise, aside from the aesthetic beauty of the smileys, which you probably did not, yourself, create, you're white noise.


The idea of there being certain spirits that lie to you and spirits that help you is an interesting approach. I also thought of it moreso as if there are spirits lying to you, spirits which don't have an aura that you can trust, you had reached the last defenses of the ego. Some Egyptian beliefs concerning death believed that the soul of the recently deceased has to survive an overnight journey in a hostile realm. The journey consisted of traveling through several gates, each which had its own gatekeeper. No matter how tricky you tried to be, the gatekeeper will always manage to snatch you up as you try to pass through. Just as you are in his grasps, a second away from being devoured whole, you have to look the monster in the face and say something along the lines of, "I've met you many, many times before. I know who you are. Your name is _______"

The spirits which lie to you aren't spirits in the cosmic sense. They are the enforcers of your ego. They are often the demons which re-occur in your life. They are personal. If you encounter them on the trip and are able to laugh in their face as they threaten to devour you, sending you into terror, and call them out, they recede and you can experience ego death.


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