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nicechrisman
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: nooneman]
#19348707 - 12/30/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cognitive dissonance will make it impossible for some people to benefit from this. They won't even allow themselves to.
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TopPmz
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I have insurance, so I don't need to allow myself to.
@illyabo: I've had several jobs. I don't watch the news because its all biased, and I'm not pulling this information out of my ass. I speak only from personal experience and experience through people I know who are business owners or at corporate level in a large company, and whatever research I choose to do. I don't hate everything about ACA, but to take the choice out of the hands of the consumer is unacceptable. ACA is Unconstitutional (google aca unconstitutional for countless sources), and that's all I care about.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: TopPmz]
#19348789 - 12/30/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.

But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Konyap]
#19348917 - 12/30/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: Everybody will use health insurance at some point
you guys act like the government has no interest in this other then to get votes
everything is being payed for by taxes
"everything is being payed for by taxes"
No it's not, people have to buy insurance and pay for it themselves.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
#19349129 - 12/30/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you signed up for that shit then you're basically telling the government that you'll give into anything that they say. Ultimately doomin us all to slavery and possibly poverty. If you don't sign up then you're standing your ground and yay to you. We shouldn't let people walk on us.Quote:
morrowasted said: The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.

But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
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morrowasted said: The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.

But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
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morrowasted said: The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.
But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
You're highly misinformed. I can't believe people still think like this...it was normal to own slaves back then, just because their slaves were black didn't mean they were racist. Also blacks sold each other into slavery.
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TopPmz
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: GreySatyr]
#19349155 - 12/30/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GreyMorph said: If you signed up for that shit then you're basically telling the government that you'll give into anything that they say. Ultimately doomin us all to slavery and possibly poverty. If you don't sign up then you're standing your ground and yay to you. We shouldn't let people walk on us.Quote:
morrowasted said: The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.

But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
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morrowasted said: The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.

But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
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morrowasted said: The Constitution was largely devised by a bunch of racist, self-interested slaveowners.
But hey let's all bow down to it even though it was written at a time in which none of the present contextual circumstances could be taken into account.
You're highly misinformed. I can't believe people still think like this...it was normal to own slaves back then, just because their slaves were black didn't mean they were racist. Also blacks sold each other into slavery.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: TopPmz]
#19349169 - 12/30/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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uhm I think they were racist, the politicians did a good job back then pandering to people on the platform they wouldn't let black people get any jobs that the poor whites thought they deserved.
Sounds a lot like racism.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Konyap]
#19349199 - 12/30/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the constitution is actually pretty much the most badass thing ever.
like maybe instead of calling it's writers racist
you could like maybe like possibly point something out IN THE CONSTITUTION that is racist
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: k00laid]
#19350784 - 12/31/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: uhm I think they were racist, the politicians did a good job back then pandering to people on the platform they wouldn't let black people get any jobs that the poor whites thought they deserved.
Sounds a lot like racism.
Yes but that wasn't the same time frame that you were cursing above. Blacks were slaves and then they became equal and THEN racism was rampant. I'm not saying that it wasn't there before but the founders weren't really racist just because their slaves were black.Quote:
k00laid said: the constitution is actually pretty much the most badass thing ever.
like maybe instead of calling it's writers racist
you could like maybe like possibly point something out IN THE CONSTITUTION that is racist
The constitution has nothing in it about racism or slavery...
The whole misunderstanding is that black slaves=racist white masters. Which isn't a fair or logical assumption. White people had white slaves before we bought black slaves, racism spawned from blacks being slaves and then gaining rights and being lowered class.
It wasn't racism to have a black slave. For every black slave that was treated like shit there was one that was treated fairly or on occasions even equally. Most slaves were even paid and after several years bought their own freedom. But no one wants to know the truth.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: GreySatyr]
#19351015 - 12/31/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They perceived blacks to be inferior and were therefore racist. If you enslave members of your own race, you're also a classist. Don't get caught up in bullshit.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted] 1
#19351462 - 12/31/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I signed my parents up in less than 5 minutes. They were paying $600 for a crappy plan. Now they will pay $30 for an amazing plan ($0 deductible / 30 free chiropractic visits per year / $0 for generic prescriptions / $75 for a trip to the ER / $1500 max out of pocket / $10 primary doctor / etc.)
He has a $930 plan but has a $900 subsidy. Only issue is he is self-employed and if he shows too much money earned then he might owe a balance at the end of the year.
I also signed myself and wife up for an ok $320/month plan (got a $350/month subsidy so it's free). She hasn't had health insurance in 5 years. Max out of pocket is $1500 with a $1000 deductible. I got a surgery (with insurance) a couple years ago and got hit with a $7000 bill. The scam artist billers know it is a scam number they pull out of their ass and since I was paying in full they dropped it to $4000. Talk about a number pulled out of thin air.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Confucian]
#19351467 - 12/31/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Confucian said: I signed my parents up in less than 5 minutes. They were paying $600 for a crappy plan. Now they will pay $30 for an amazing plan ($0 deductible / 30 free chiropractic visits per year / $0 for generic prescriptions / $75 for a trip to the ER / $1500 max out of pocket / $10 primary doctor / etc.
He has a $930 plan but has a $900 subsidy. Only issue is he is self-employed and if he shows too much money earned than he might owe a balance at the end of the year.
I also signed myself and wife up for an ok $320/month plan (got a $350/month subsidy so it's free). She hasn't had health insurance in 5 years. Max out of pocket is $1500 with a $1000 deductible. I got a surgery (with insurance) a couple years ago and got hit with a $7000 bill. The scam artist billers know it is a scam number they pull out of their ass and since I was paying in full they dropped it to $4000. Talk about a number pulled out of thin air.
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zappaisgod
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
#19351505 - 12/31/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What healthcare are you getting, what is/isn't covered, and what services are you eligible for?
What I have noticed is that under private insurance no coverage for psychological services was covered, there was no coverage for services for things like addiction treatment, and that my out of pocket expenses were higher at point of service (which is less manageable for a person like me). None of this is true of the ACA in my case.
I have no interest in rehab, addiction, or psychological coverage. Why should I be forced to pay for your fuckups?
Because you live in a civilized society. Don't like it? Go live in the fucking forest and fend for yourself.
No, you go live in a forest. I don't know you, I don't like you and I might not want to piss on you if you were on fire. What are you gonna do for me as a member of civilized society? My guess. Nothing.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: zappaisgod]
#19351509 - 12/31/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, you go live in a forest. I don't know you, I don't like you and I might not want to piss on you if you were on fire. What are you gonna do for me as a member of civilized society? My guess. Nothing.
Unsurprising; your user-title gives you away. If nothing else, you're honest. You're making a pretty drastic assumption about me, though. When was the last time you did any service work? Because I do quite a bit.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
#19351624 - 12/31/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its religious, going back to the mark of ham. Time was you could take slaves if they weren't Christian. And yes Africans sold other Africans into slavery. I'm fact free Africans could buy their brothers in Louisiana.
during the course of human history every people has had experience in slavery. Usually starting with their brothers. The Chinese, the Mongols, the Greeks,the Romans,the Africans and the Muslims. The list is long.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
#19351697 - 12/31/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: my insurance did go up due to obamacare, from $327/mo t$540/mo, I'm about to see another $75/mo increase, under the ACA website, it's $900/mo for comparable coverage
Cry me a river, maybe you should've gone to college. And not been such an unhealthy person. WTF kind of shitty health do you have that you need the ACA equivalent of $900 worth of healthcare?
hahahaha... since when does the obamcare website do physicals
I have no preexisting medical conditions nor do my kids, I am in perfect health and my bloodwork shows me to be a little bit low on calcium, everything else is within normal levels
the reason the plan via obamacare was so costly i because I went with a comparable plan to what I was already covered under, a platinum plan on their site, I'm currently covered under BC/BS and the platinum via obamas site is nearly double through the same carrier
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Konyap]
#19351710 - 12/31/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Illyabo said: Everybody will use health insurance at some point
you guys act like the government has no interest in this other then to get votes
everything is being payed for by taxes
what is being paid for by taxes?
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Konyap

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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19351740 - 12/31/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol errr
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zappaisgod
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted]
#19351851 - 12/31/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: By the way, I don't seek psychological or addiction services. But other people do and they deserve them if they pay into the system.
I do have lower monthly costs and lower point of service out of pocket costs as a result of the ACA and that another reason why I am in favor of it.
I am allowed to be in favor of the ACA because it covers psychological and addiction services even though I do not use them.
Why should I be forced to pay for them? If you want to pay for assholes' bullshit you are free to do so. Forcing me to do it is another thing entirely.
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Re: I signed up for Obamacare. [Re: morrowasted] 1
#19351857 - 12/31/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, you go live in a forest. I don't know you, I don't like you and I might not want to piss on you if you were on fire. What are you gonna do for me as a member of civilized society? My guess. Nothing.
Unsurprising; your user-title gives you away. If nothing else, you're honest. You're making a pretty drastic assumption about me, though. When was the last time you did any service work? Because I do quite a bit.
Never. I write six figure tax checks every year. That's my service.
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