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OfflineTARFF
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Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip
    #19351182 - 12/31/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Guys and Gals,

Happy New Year!

It's my first post, lurker for a while.  I've done a lot of searching for an answer but couldn't find anything that suffices.

He bought some spores from a trusted sponsor of this site (Equadors) and used the pf tek. 

He got great flushes and all but there is almost zero potency in these guys. 

He finally got frustrated, powderized and swallowed down 20 grams.  No visuals and whatever effects he got lasted only a few hours at most. 

He gave 3.5 gm to a friend and they didn't get much off it either.

So that's the situation, anyone have suggestions? Comments?

Was the temp off?  humidity?  not enough love?


Edited by TARFF (12/31/13 01:30 PM)


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: TARFF]
    #19351206 - 12/31/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Sounds like you played the multi spore lottery and lost. 

some fruits are no potent, you might even get really potent fruits from same spores.    MS innoculations are a gamble.  sometimes you can even get myc that colonizes your whole sub b
but never fruits. 

you did succeed in growing fruits.  maybe try again with a different strain

you would probably get more answers in the mush cult. forum


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: TARFF]
    #19351226 - 12/31/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Multi spores can be a Crap shoot some times you get good genetics other times not.  Each cake can have different results.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: hushmush]
    #19351278 - 12/31/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

It is true that there is a lot of variation between MS grows and sometimes one particular MS grow will be weaker or stronger than another, but I have never had a batch that turned out to be completely or even mostly bunk like this one seems to have. :shrug:
I would look to see how they were dried and stored before I blamed the culture.
Not sayin' that your culture didn't loose the genetic lottery, just sayin' that it is wise to cover all the angles before you decide to scrap the culture you are working with.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19351730 - 12/31/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Good call frozen, the drying process didn't cross my mind.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: indocult]
    #19353792 - 01/01/14 05:50 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Thanks for the insights guys, I dried with a ronco dehydrator for maybe max 12 hours.  I know you mentioned diff cakes -  I did 20 cakes.  Unfortunatly I stored all the fruits together so I can't tell how many are bunk.  But nothing I took could be described as more than mild


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: TARFF]
    #19353794 - 01/01/14 05:55 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Do you take any medication that may be interacting ?


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: indocult]
    #19354193 - 01/01/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

No, no medications.  I exercise pretty regularly, eat healthy.  In fact I fasted the day I took the 20 gms.  Maybe im super hard headed?

Still have a syringe left, so I may try again.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: TARFF]
    #19354263 - 01/01/14 10:48 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

If the heating unit in the dehydrator wasn't disabled that could be your problem. Heat can kill off potency.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19354282 - 01/01/14 10:56 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Most people agree that you can dehydrate mushrooms on the highest setting on a dehydrator, 160, and not lose any potency. I do mine on 95.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: happygolucky]
    #19354304 - 01/01/14 11:07 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Sounds like you might have got shit shrooms out your grow roll the dice again and forget about your lose


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19354361 - 01/01/14 11:27 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Bunk flushes happen. If you do a quick search you'll find many instances of this hapening in cake grows. If i were op Id try for spawning to bulk next run. Penis envy may offer a greater chance for a potent flush so I would consider starting some cultures of that.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #19354423 - 01/01/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Well you surely still have brf verm and perlite left.  Try again my friend


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: TARFF]
    #24311410 - 05/11/17 08:15 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have had the same issue with commercial syringes. Am trying APE and hoping I get lucky until I'm set for agar....


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: jda]
    #24313189 - 05/11/17 11:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I've attempted 5 grows in my life, and thankfully, all five were successful.

Man I couldn't imagine putting all that time into it and getting them to grow...only to have inactive flushes.

But yeah, I do wonder if the drying process is what led to that for the OP.


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Re: Frustrated with Grow - 20 gms, no trip [Re: Niffla]
    #24313213 - 05/11/17 11:14 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

A dehydrator will not affect potency.... And this thread is 3 years old

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