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Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs!
    #19350493 - 12/31/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: lostinthecloud]
    #19350553 - 12/31/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think the trend is clear in America: Communist police state. They're advertising the new Robocop movie with "Drive sober or get pulled over." In some ways it appears as if the 'war on drugs' is coming to an end, at least on cannabis, and in some ways it looks like America will soon get its ass kicked. The BRICS will be setting up its central bank in 2015, which will rival the Western powers' IMF and WB. The powers are calling for world government and a new world order, and that the world must be de-Americanized and Wall St. must be put to an end.

Homeland Security buying billions of round of ammunition. China has a 25 year lease at the Panama Canal. China just recently held its first ever military drill, that has been made public anyways, on U.S. soil in Hawaii. Foreign troops have been seen along the Mexican-American border. There are so many things going on.

Every great nation or kingdom that has ever been has come to a violent end. America will be no different, and IMO will suffer the greatest consequences of any nation that has existed. If you have the funds and means to get out of this country, I would suggest doing so soon, unless you have somewhere to flee like the mountains when the shtf.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: lostinthecloud]
    #19350567 - 12/31/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Haha This seems a little extreme to me...  But whatever I guess.

Like the dude said, the law is on THEIR side. I'm not sure most laws even benefit the people anymore.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: JadedMycology]
    #19350676 - 12/31/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He would have had to of admitted to have had having drugs in there or planned on having drugs in their. Otherwise it's not illegal.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: King Klick]
    #19351166 - 12/31/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This "hidden compartment law" is way to vague to have any sort of purpose.


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User didn't post the article, here it is. [Re: Pureless]
    #19351328 - 12/31/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

http://crooksandliars.com/2013/12/driver-arrested-under-ohio-law-making

Driver Arrested Under Ohio Law Making 'Hidden' Compartments A Felony
By Diane Sweet December 31, 2013 7:06 am

Ohio police arrested a driver because his car contained a compartment that could theoretically store illegal drugs, though no drugs were found at the time.

Video: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1683042676001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAB_zNwdE~,sELXX2gKZV9f-NYMZlBIojSsy9enfYbz&bctid=2854725159001

A search didn’t find any drugs on a 30-year-old Michigan man, but that didn’t stop police from making him the first person in the state to be arrested for violating a relatively new law that purportedly seeks to combat drug trafficking by prohibiting the use of vehicles containing hidden compartments.

WKYC-TV reports 30-year-old Norman Gurley was originally pulled over for speeding in Lorain County, Ohio Tuesday when State Highway Patrol troopers noticed wires running to the back of his car.

"During the search, they noticed some components inside the vehicle that did not appear to be factory," Lt. Michael Combs told WKYC.

Even though Gurley did not have any illegal drugs or weapons in the car, he was still arrested due to the state’s "hidden compartment" law, becoming the first person to be arrested under this law in the state.

The law states: "No person shall knowingly operate, possess, or use a vehicle with a hidden compartment with knowledge that the hidden compartment is used or intended to be used to facilitate the unlawful concealment or transportation of a controlled substance," a felony of the fourth degree, a violation punishable by up to 18 months in prison.

Yet according to the law, it’s unclear if troopers were even in the right.

Sec. 2923.241 (I) of the law states it "does not apply to a box, safe, container, or other item added to a vehicle for the purpose of securing valuables, electronics, or firearms," as long as said container "does not contain a controlled substance or visible residue of a controlled substance."

The new law was sponsored by Ohio State Senators Hughes (R), and Patton (R).

The ACLU of Ohio took issue with the law last year stating it was "an unnecessary and unproductive expansion of law. Drug trafficking is already prohibited under Ohio law, so there is no use for shifting the focus to the container. Further by focusing on the container itself, this bill criminalizes a person with prior felony drug trafficking convictions simply for driving a car with a hidden compartment, regardless of whether or not drugs or even drug residue are present."

Combs says the compartment was big enough to hold "several pounds" of drugs.

"We apparently caught them between runs, so to speak, so this takes away one tool they have in their illegal trade," Combs told WKYC. "The law does help us and is on our side.

Gurley was released after posting bond.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: lostinthecloud] * 1
    #19351484 - 12/31/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Hah! My car comes with a hidden compartment without even specially designing it.

Dumb ass law.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19351825 - 12/31/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

“We apparently caught them between runs, so to speak, so this takes away one tool they have in their illegal trade”

:lolsy: Yeah, sure. :rolleyes:


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: lostinthecloud]
    #19354708 - 01/01/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Sounds to me like his case will be thrown out before court unless they can find residue..

Surely he could just state that is for storing valuables, phones, tablets or whatever. How an empty space can be illegal is beyond me.

@Happygolucky  -  Calm down, a bit less infowars and Alex Jones type shit would probably do you good. Foreign troops along the border?? What like Canadian or Mexican troops.. in their own country... on a border... how bizarre. :tinfoil:


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19354783 - 01/01/14 01:43 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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egodeathflux said:
Sounds to me like his case will be thrown out before court unless they can find residue..

Surely he could just state that is for storing valuables, phones, tablets or whatever. How an empty space can be illegal is beyond me.

@Happygolucky  -  Calm down, a bit less infowars and Alex Jones type shit would probably do you good. Foreign troops along the border?? What like Canadian or Mexican troops.. in their own country... on a border... how bizarre. :tinfoil:





"Visible residue" if they don't see that or drugs then this just might get thrown out.


Pig didn't even do a field test it seems.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: dark3st]
    #19354885 - 01/01/14 02:12 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

so a factory hidden compartment is illegal,

but if you retrofit one, your a criminal.

the fuck is really going on here.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: rackem]
    #19354939 - 01/01/14 02:29 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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rackem said:
so a factory hidden compartment is illegal,

but if you retrofit one, your a criminal.

the fuck is really going on here.




Did you read it in full?
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    Sec. 2923.241 (I) of the law states it "does not apply to a box, safe, container, or other item added to a vehicle for the purpose of securing valuables, electronics, or firearms," as long as said container "does not contain a controlled substance or visible residue of a controlled substance."       




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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: dark3st]
    #19354959 - 01/01/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

"No person shall knowingly operate, possess, or use a vehicle with a hidden compartment with knowledge that the hidden compartment is used or intended to be used to facilitate the unlawful concealment or transportation of a controlled substance"

So basically the DA is going to have to prove that he both knew of the compartment and that said compartment is, was or will be used to hide drugs. Pretty tough to prove if you ask me.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: dark3st]
    #19355222 - 01/01/14 03:52 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

i read it.. in full..

but it seems like a big ass double standard if you ask me.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: rackem]
    #19355239 - 01/01/14 03:55 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:

rackem said:
i read it.. in full..

but it seems like a big ass double standard if you ask me.



I think I do see what you mean, I was just showing you the law states there must be visible residue.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: dark3st]
    #19355289 - 01/01/14 04:10 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

should be interesting to see how it plays out either way.

these cops really need to be held to a higher standard than this bullshit.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: rackem]
    #19355531 - 01/01/14 05:18 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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The law states: “No person shall knowingly operate, possess, or use a vehicle with a hidden compartment with knowledge that the hidden compartment is used or intended to be used to facilitate the unlawful concealment or transportation of a controlled substance,” a felony of the fourth degree, a violation punishable by up to 18 months in prison. - See more at: http://crooksandliars.com/2013/12/driver-arrested-under-ohio-law-making#sthash.YB3q2EGI.dpuf




I think he will get the case overturned.  unless the police can prove that he knowingly intends to use his aftermarket storage device for illegal purposes.

that's a bullshit law.  What next?  Maybe the government will outlaw shortwave radio listening... and sell the spectrum to comcast.  Oh wait... are they already doing that?


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: travelleler]
    #19355534 - 01/01/14 05:19 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

what's more, it's unclear if he submitted to a search without warrant or not.  How can owning a safe be considered illegal?  Makes very little sense to me.


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: travelleler]
    #19357203 - 01/02/14 03:28 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

I couldn't imagine why there might be DUST on a FUCKING VEHICLE! Why can't these donut munching cumscrubbers go fuck with somebody else for a change? Just because they're jealous somebody made money doing something other than they or their fat dead, bloated, deadbeat, drunkass daddy did for a living. Fucking cops are over-entitled elitist cocksuckers and motherfuckers to the highest degree. Let 'em kick it with Elvis at the gathering!


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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: happygolucky]
    #19360211 - 01/02/14 06:55 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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happygolucky said:
If you have the funds and means to get out of this country, I would suggest doing so soon, unless you have somewhere to flee like the mountains when the shtf.




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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #19360411 - 01/02/14 07:42 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)



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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: happygolucky]
    #19362797 - 01/03/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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happygolucky said:
I think the trend is clear in America: Communist police state. They're advertising the new Robocop movie with "Drive sober or get pulled over." In some ways it appears as if the 'war on drugs' is coming to an end, at least on cannabis, and in some ways it looks like America will soon get its ass kicked. The BRICS will be setting up its central bank in 2015, which will rival the Western powers' IMF and WB. The powers are calling for world government and a new world order, and that the world must be de-Americanized and Wall St. must be put to an end.

Homeland Security buying billions of round of ammunition. China has a 25 year lease at the Panama Canal. China just recently held its first ever military drill, that has been made public anyways, on U.S. soil in Hawaii. Foreign troops have been seen along the Mexican-American border. There are so many things going on.

Every great nation or kingdom that has ever been has come to a violent end. America will be no different, and IMO will suffer the greatest consequences of any nation that has existed. If you have the funds and means to get out of this country, I would suggest doing so soon, unless you have somewhere to flee like the mountains when the shtf.





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Re: Arrested for having a "secret compartment," no drugs! [Re: 2859558484]
    #19362841 - 01/03/14 10:55 AM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Next thing they are going to make having a rectum a felony. 

Happygolucky:  Its a bit extreme, but well within the realm of possibility.  I myself will not be surprised to see total breakdown of "society" in the next decade.  I would imagine that US military will institute martial law, and that is where the new turning point would be.

Democracy eventually fails 100% of the time.  Use Rome as an example.  Most of what you saw then, can be witnessed now...just we have smart phones.....The signs all point to total break down for me.  And yes, I am looney but have a few more years of a work contract, then I am out. 

I don't trust the american dollar, and I really think that my retirement is going to be worthless fast.  What happened in 2008 is nothing compared to what will happen when the world currency switches from the US dollar.


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