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Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience
#19350163 - 12/31/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello,
it's my first time to grow shrooms and I decided to grow some Golden Teacher in a mycobox (a growing bag). Ok, so the problem is this: it is my second flush now and again, the shrooms are growing in all sides, some even share the same cap. I'm gonna post some pics below so you could see for yourself. So, when I dried them (I put them on a carton box and place it on the book shelf, hope that's okay?) and ate 2 of them a week later wih my friend (we both ate 5 all together), I only noticed some minor body sensation (chills, tremors, bright lights), but that's about it. I ate shrooms before a couple of times and only needed one to get super high. Let me also mention that I didn't pick all the shrooms at once, because some were fully grown, when others didn't even open their caps yet. And when I picked those full grown ones, the others kind of stopped growing? It was like they were drying out and they never opened their caps... so I picked those as well - got the same super low body high... I would appreciate some suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong. I keep them on 21 degrees Celsius (room temp) on my desk table.. not in direct light.
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Edited by Meiko (01/01/14 02:18 PM)
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19350174 - 12/31/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your better of to do it ur self from the start lol and as for the high do I know how much the shroom weighed u will need at least 2 to 3.5 grams dried (20to35 grams) wet but I'm still not sure I understand the question.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19350193 - 12/31/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay, the question is why the shrooms were so weak, why some of them stopped growing and why they're growing in all sides (upside down, to the left, right, etc.). Those that stopped growing were not aborts, but almost fully grown shrooms, that suddenly started to dry out (I used water spray every day) and never opened their caps. I thought maybe all three "problems" are somehow related and that maybe I'm doing something wrong  I consumed cca 2 grams. Previously, that was more than enough for me to have at least level 1 experience.
Edited by Meiko (12/31/13 08:22 AM)
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19350204 - 12/31/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm guessing you got some dinky sized shrooms and 2 of them was never going to make any one feel anything. Try watching the let's grow mushroom videos BRF tek and start there next time. Take a look through the first link in my signature.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: bodhisatta]
#19350233 - 12/31/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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add the photos to your gallery and link them to this thread. you'll get much more response, no one wanna open that zip file you linked to..
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: bodhisatta]
#19350236 - 12/31/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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And do u have a light on them for 12/12 on off it also needs to be a 6500k light aswell.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19350245 - 12/31/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you don't NEED that type of light, but you'll benefit from it. I'll guess they didn't grow well because of the bag they grew in and the conditions it offers. fresh air is important, but not so much that it hurts the relative humidity. I think you gave close to no fae in that bag and that's why they looked weird. probably had thin stems too, huh? the potency is random.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19350294 - 12/31/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meiko said: Okay, the question is why the shrooms were so weak, why some of them stopped growing and why they're growing in all sides (upside down, to the left, right, etc.). Those that stopped growing were not aborts, but almost fully grown shrooms, that suddenly started to dry out (I used water spray every day) and never opened their caps. I thought maybe all three "problems" are somehow related and that maybe I'm doing something wrong  I consumed cca 2 grams. Previously, that was more than enough for me to have at least level 1 experience.
Light gives shrooms a general direction to grow which is why the growing I all direction witch is one of his ?'s
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19350299 - 12/31/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meiko said: Okay, the question is why the shrooms were so weak, why some of them stopped growing and why they're growing in all sides (upside down, to the left, right, etc.). Those that stopped growing were not aborts, but almost fully grown shrooms, that suddenly started to dry out (I used water spray every day) and never opened their caps. I thought maybe all three "problems" are somehow related and that maybe I'm doing something wrong  I consumed cca 2 grams. Previously, that was more than enough for me to have at least level 1 experience.
Light gives shrooms a general direction to grow which is why the growing I all direction witch is one of his ?'s
They'll grow upwards in complete darkness, Side pins will often grow downwards because of where they pinned. Gravity tells shrooms to grow upwards, light orients the caps.
There's redundant biomechanical feedback for getting a fruit body to disperse spores effectively. Gravity is always there and it's No1 for growing upwards. The caps will tend to point towards the light though.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (12/31/13 08:55 AM)
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19350309 - 12/31/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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NOTFALL3N said: Light gives shrooms a general direction to grow which is why the growing I all direction witch is one of his ?'s
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RogerRabbit said: Mushrooms don't use light for direction of growth. Mushrooms grown in total darkness will still grow straight up, opposite gravity.Mushrooms turn towards the light because they are using it as a source of energy. That's why mushrooms grown with the proper amount and spectrum of light grow much larger and heavier than mushrooms grown with insufficient light. It's also why light is just as important during the growth phase as it is during the pinning stage. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13263705#13263705
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: PussyFart]
#19350316 - 12/31/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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NOTFALL3N said: Light gives shrooms a general direction to grow which is why the growing I all direction witch is one of his ?'s
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RogerRabbit said: Mushrooms don't use light for direction of growth. Mushrooms grown in total darkness will still grow straight up, opposite gravity.Mushrooms turn towards the light because they are using it as a source of energy. That's why mushrooms grown with the proper amount and spectrum of light grow much larger and heavier than mushrooms grown with insufficient light. It's also why light is just as important during the growth phase as it is during the pinning stage. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13263705#13263705
Good to know thanks!!!
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: bodhisatta]
#19350353 - 12/31/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For the moste part potency is genetic. If you grew from multi spore it a craps shoot. Also without weighing them you really don't know how much to take. Shrooms lose 90% of their size and weight during the drying process so its hard to eye ball fresh shrooms the first time. You'r drying method isn't good either. Potency is lost threw oxadization, so you want to get them dry as fast as possible. Us a food dehydrator or at least a fan. I doubt you got them cracker dry just sitting on a shelf.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: spacechildo]
#19354792 - 01/01/14 01:47 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Yep, my shrooms had very thin stems! You must be right, I didn't supply enough fae... Unfortunately, I can't drill holes into the bag, coz the moisture is gathering at the bottom. Maybe if I make holes on the sides? But I guess only during the fruiting?
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19355958 - 01/01/14 07:20 PM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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you can burn holes with a flamed pin or something, or even better, make a sgfc! real simple, great results.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: spacechildo]
#19357493 - 01/02/14 07:22 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19357518 - 01/02/14 07:42 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Yeah, I figure this is the best idea... so I'm starting to build it today Hope I get it right... there are so many tutorials online that I don't know which one is the least complicated I don't have thermostats or thermometers, nor the humidity meters... Not even a fluorescent light bulb
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19357540 - 01/02/14 08:09 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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All u need is a 6500k light bulb wal mart 7$ and a clear tub with clear lid 1/4 inch holes on all 6 sides 2 inches apart in a grid pattern then put 3 to 5 inches of perilite in the bottom wall mart or Home Depot 4$ and that's it no meters or anything like that if it's built right u shouldn't have to worry good luck and you made the right choice 20$ is all u need man get to bags of the perilite to
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19357910 - 01/02/14 11:00 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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Meiko said: Yeah, I figure this is the best idea... so I'm starting to build it today Hope I get it right... there are so many tutorials online that I don't know which one is the least complicated I don't have thermostats or thermometers, nor the humidity meters... Not even a fluorescent light bulb 
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New growers obsess over humidity when it's actually a minor concern. NEVER tape up holes because some chinese piece of shit 'hygrometer' says it's low. If you build a shotgun terrarium per the tek and your hygrometer says humidity is too low, smash the hygrometer with a hammer and leave the terrarium alone. RR
this should help!
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: spacechildo]
#19357918 - 01/02/14 11:03 AM (10 years, 29 days ago) |
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put it by a window and forget all the electronicxs they will just get you paranoid, mist and fan when needed and you will be fine
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: cronicr]
#19362118 - 01/03/14 05:18 AM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thank you guys for your help! But I'm still wondering if drilling all these holes in a fruiting chamber isn't the very way for the contams to get in?
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19362119 - 01/03/14 05:18 AM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Fruiting is not a sterile process.
Fully colonized cakes are contam resistant.
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: PussyFart]
#19362316 - 01/03/14 07:36 AM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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fresh air keeps contams away! wet stale air environment is key for bacteria and mold to grow.
I see why you think air is dirty and cause contams and all that, I think most of us did on the first grow
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Re: Weird growing shrooms - very weak experience [Re: Meiko]
#19362423 - 01/03/14 08:29 AM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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Meiko said: Thank you guys for your help! But I'm still wondering if drilling all these holes in a fruiting chamber isn't the very way for the contams to get in?
Fruiting isn't sterile.
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