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Bear Grylls?
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: liquidlounge]
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i got a man crush on bear grylls, he is the man
that video
that back scratching must feel sooo good!
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Ha ha ha I thought that bear looked so happy and then he brought all his buddies. What a generous bear
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So what constitutes an observer? I know a camera qualifies....
I wonder if plants or microbes do?
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what constitutes a tree worth bearing?
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: liquidlounge]
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Personally, I think Bear Grylls is FOS and encourages dangerous and foolish behavior coming from a bushcraft and survival perspective.
I've learned a lot more from and have put far more into practical practice from Les Stroud and Ray Mears.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: Raven Gnosis]
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yeh i resisted posting something similar.. bear grilles is the kid at school who got peer pressured into eating a cockroach
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: quinn]
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quinn said: yeh i resisted posting something similar.. bear grilles is the kid at school who got peer pressured into eating a cockroach
it was the glass of pee at lunch that really started the issues for poor bear.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: LunarEclipse]
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I'm not going to lie, I don't doubt his prowess as a military man, but as a bushcraft and woodsman? Not so much... If I were to pick him or one person from this forum to take into the woods with me on a 10 day journey it'd be ice or wildernessjunkie , hands down.
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it was the glass of pee at lunch that really started the issues for poor bear.
Yeah... Drinking your own urine in a survival situation is a stupid move...
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Raven Gnosis said: I'm not going to lie, I don't doubt his prowess as a military man, but as a bushcraft and woodsman? Not so much... If I were to pick him or one person from this forum to take into the woods with me on a 10 day journey it'd be ice or wildernessjunkie , hands down.
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it was the glass of pee at lunch that really started the issues for poor bear.
Yeah... Drinking your own urine in a survival situation is a stupid move...
The kids made fun of him too. Only made him want to drink it more just to gross them out.
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#19353768 - 01/01/14 05:24 AM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Shit, if I were him, I would have spat it on them like a filthy demonic savage.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: Raven Gnosis]
#19353786 - 01/01/14 05:41 AM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Raven Gnosis said: Shit, if I were him, I would have spat it on them like a filthy demonic savage.
Sebastian went to a private Catholic school and was beaten by nuns. You wouldn't know it now.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: LunarEclipse]
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what is so special about a tree ?? how is it any more living then a still rock or walking mud surfaces ?? is it only because of its branches that allow you to sell the image of being one with something attached to an existing ground ? how a tree looks more peaceful then other forms of natural life ?? isn't there carnivores trees also alive ??/
what makes you feel so happy and sure of yourself when you exhibit such lousy images means by saying nothing but the word tree ??
a tree is much less then a bear for sure.. what is poor is the animal awareness locked in such living possession of his body rights .. not the tree which is never present since obviously it is not the least free aware to move clearly out of the ground living
you love to believe scripture while you know that they are only made of lies and for
like picking trees for an image about people in jesus as also using animals different kinds for the same purpose, to justify how all existence is nothing but a creation of god that can use anything for anything else means freely.. for dumb limited possible grasps and understandings that god fancy about all people and everyone free conscious rights
it is always the same point .. else inferiority fixed to suggest being above .. the way of existence power and life
a human being is a conscious being right so definitely no relation with a tree while certainly any individual living condition
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
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what is so special about a tree ?? how is it any more living then a still rock or walking mud surfaces ??
How are trees alive?
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
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what makes you feel so happy and sure of yourself when you exhibit such lousy images means by saying nothing but the word tree ??
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absols;
I am actually one of the most grumpy people; mostly very sad about inequality.
the world is not fair, some people understand me, some do not. evidently, you do not, and when you post, I become more sad because of it.
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what makes you feel so happy and sure of yourself when you exhibit such lousy images means by saying nothing but the word tree ??
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I am actually one of the most grumpy people; mostly very sad about inequality.
the world is not fair, some people understand me, some do not. evidently, you do not, and when you post, I become more sad because of it.
understand you ??? how trees and animals are about you ??
what about anyone else then too right to mean those things differently too and according to their wills and interests in that ??
this is the problem.. you think that words or sentences can allow you to state anything you want about everything while yes or maybe, but.. it is valid for anyother too that can use what you are saying then for whatever he wants if it is clear in intelligible words enough
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: Tropism]
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Tropism said: what is so special about a tree ?? how is it any more living then a still rock or walking mud surfaces ??
How are trees alive?
conscious fact is only out of else existence recognitions rights
that is definitely true, so trees are not conscious at all
while life is mostly out of positive reality of things existence, so nothing to being conscious ever and all to everything ways of life like I said.. rocks that can turn to become Vulcans or muds or living evil plants ...
life is never synonymous of right .. on the contrary life is always out of killing else .. which again prove that all trees do not exist as they cant be conscious ever.. while they effectively can look alive but like nothing existence out of not being at all ..
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redgreenvines said: what constitutes a tree worth bearing?
Climbable with bare feet, with leaves that sway in the breeze, Grounds ball lightning with ease, Provides shade from the heat, And grows at least over 10 feet. That's a tree worth bearing to me.
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Tropism said: what is so special about a tree ?? how is it any more living then a still rock or walking mud surfaces ??
How are trees alive?
conscious fact is only out of else existence recognitions rights
that is definitely true, so trees are not conscious at all
while life is mostly out of positive reality of things existence, so nothing to being conscious ever and all to everything ways of life like I said.. rocks that can turn to become Vulcans or muds or living evil plants ...
life is never synonymous of right .. on the contrary life is always out of killing else .. which again prove that all trees do not exist as they cant be conscious ever.. while they effectively can look alive but like nothing existence out of not being at all ..
When conscious being free to be right regardless to be conscious right or not as long as one together.
Even in sleep conscious being right remain being to be right or no way to bring truth eternal light bringing in the night to dream. Life is death from coming in the whole of the universe to be the only and effective existence.
To be true the right doesn't counter the only way to see under the blanket of the coming days and evil reigns to freely to be right or wrong, and is only what is as is good to make organisation of chaos in an otherwise bleak and damp darkness.
Even in right wrong being stakes are to great to take it all without one or the other.
Although in right eyes or left is wrong to see without or within.
Being right, wrong, right and wrong, right or wrong, not right or wrong, not right and wrong, not right, not wrong is still being.
Only through order could the chaos be seen.
Only through chaos could the order be seen.
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achhh noh! it's catching!
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funny is how mind ordering through wading confusion from contempt.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: teknix]
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right is not from wrong but wrong is always from willing to take advantage of rights, so from being without recognizing right being fact obviously seeing
it is too easy to confuse both and claim all being one, from what any individual being is free one but it is all about you that you say and nothing of what is there or existing fact and never what could concern else beings
like how could you be saying anything when you are claiming that opposites are same thing ??? what information are you giving ?? how useful or to what is that for ??? nothing but you, acting as the only present fact being over everything as nothing at all
how intelligent is that of you ??? nothing but you
you are planning of being god like don't you ??? good luck with that, when the example you follow is the most pervert dirty power over everyone and anyone ..
anyway, mister absurd.. else existence recognition point necessarily a common factor so the fact by itself erase opposites to be
I am not too smart, but you are definitely not even trying to pretend thinking any thing
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
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Quarantine! an epidemic is afoot!
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absols said: right is not from wrong but wrong is always from willing to take advantage of rights, so from being without recognizing right being fact obviously seeing
it is too easy to confuse both and claim all being one, from what any individual being is free one but it is all about you that you say and nothing of what is there or existing fact and never what could concern else beings
like how could you be saying anything when you are claiming that opposites are same thing ??? what information are you giving ?? how useful or to what is that for ??? nothing but you, acting as the only present fact being over everything as nothing at all
how intelligent is that of you ??? nothing but you
you are planning of being god like don't you ??? good luck with that, when the example you follow is the most pervert dirty power over everyone and anyone ..
anyway, mister absurd.. else existence recognition point necessarily a common factor so the fact by itself erase opposites to be
I am not too smart, but you are definitely not even trying to pretend thinking any thing
So right is rights one being, else not other? Who says is right to the wrong or wrong when being right?
Does the wrong be decided in the other or in the more others beside the one being?
Is right things to be ultimately how can this knowing be known? Do I say it is or you, or everyone else when every else is not the same?
Some seen is easily but what the not so about?
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Foots epidemic in feats of athletes.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: teknix]
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being absolutely right is not being exceptional, on the contrary damn it !!
whatever me and others are forced now to show how far they mean rights is obviously of truth freedom rights
my guess, is that it is a matter of time like always for this to be objectively clear
the fact that truth is freedom and absolute superiority so what can never be seen, don't make existence the opposite or its reverse facts on the contrary.. it makes existence positive hundred percent so when negative is the obvious power then there is a reason and a will of truth freedom which in fact is the only objective existence right and existence fact
keep not thinking and buying all the market of lies making you everyday obviously more away of being with everything clearly happening, and more present one alone force to all around your subjective life
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thinking is the rearrangement of bits of junk accumulated during the journey, keep shuffling stuff around to suit the occasion, like a dance
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keep hallucinating that I might say for others what I do myself .. good stuff if it turns you on
I invent my words instantly and obviously when it is always regarding what others are saying
and what dance ?? it is amazing how insistent your grasps are on lies .. as if you believe that any lie could justify all the others
there is no dance when all is evil .. there is nothing either to talk about
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absols said: keep hallucinating that I might say for others what I do myself .. good stuff if it turns you on
I invent my words instantly and obviously when it is always regarding what others are saying
and what dance ?? it is amazing how insistent your grasps are on lies .. as if you believe that any lie could justify all the others
there is no dance when all is evil .. there is nothing either to talk about
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No solution, but is.
Seeing outsmarts the smartest there is.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: teknix]
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you keep inventing anything for the idea that you must be right
evil is what reverse rights of beings and existence truth facts .. evil is never an awareness it is always of knowledge powers
and wrong is what is never some being .. being is always right because existence is true
wrong, so those awareness you mean, ways are through nonbeing but one themselves as nothing else, so never real regarding everything and others rights of existence, never relative in meaning present is all to them
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Seeing outsmarts the smartest there is.
what does that mean ?? who is the smartest you mean ??
what is being smart ?? and how can it be words ??
it is obvious that there is no right nor true present thing ..
it is all evil possessions and powerful abuses on everything true and everyone rights
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
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True and Right is not to be mixed.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
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why ?? what do you mean ?? how are they so different to you ??
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
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'Right' is always connotated with a subjective judgement. To be true, does not make it right in the subjective eye. What might be right for one person, might be wrong for another. Even if it is true, which is an objective statement of existence.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
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I like what you are saying, I think I agree
to me what is right is freedom of being, and freedom in existence is always the relative factor, while truth is freedom superiority as an absolute positive value
which is the reason of objective existence through the necessary constant relation between right and truth
right is truth superiority so right freedom from truth and truth is right superiority so truth absolute existence
right is by realizing objective truth so objective superior value, so right is positive conscious freedom out and truth is by realizing subjective rights superior values, so all objective become of nothing value proven being absolute none for anyone
but in depth they are the same, except truth is first and right has to be relative because second
it is the same plus factor so the positive superiority fact of any and all value the fact that any is a value because plus is certain, is the reason of freedom existence different values are never comparable .. while totally different in form and substantially this is how truth and rights are through the same way, plural present different things
which prove existence sense being from ever the source of values
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
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"right is by realizing objective truth" no. it's realizing subjective truth.
It's only for the 'wrong guys': Might is (/makes it) right
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
#19388459 - 01/08/14 02:35 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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no right is the relative out of absolute realization
also absolute is out of relative superior right realization
right is never subjective because it is realized by truth
but freedom rights in existence are of course subjectively being relative to conscious self free wills in being constant
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
#19388576 - 01/08/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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everyone sounds mental I just read this out loud mental as anything
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: absols]
#19388689 - 01/08/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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Anyhow, the fact that someone 'can' do something, doesn't make it 'right' to do....
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
#19388842 - 01/08/14 03:50 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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BlueCoyote said: Anyhow, the fact that someone 'can' do something, doesn't make it 'right' to do....
It reads like that contradicts your statement:
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BlueCoyote said: What might be right for one person, might be wrong for another.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: liquidlounge]
#19388976 - 01/08/14 04:17 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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BlueCoyote said: Anyhow, the fact that someone 'can' do something, doesn't make it 'right' to do....
It reads like that contradicts your statement:
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BlueCoyote said: What might be right for one person, might be wrong for another.
Ah noo... "Anyhow, the fact that someone 'can' do something, doesn't make it 'right' to do (for anyone/in general)..."
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
#19389055 - 01/08/14 04:31 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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"Anyhow, the fact that someone 'can' do something, doesn't make it 'right' to do (for anyone/in general)..."
According to you.
That doesn't mean your statement is necessarily right for me.
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: liquidlounge]
#19390415 - 01/08/14 08:22 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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what about the fucking bears and the tree in the forest, this is so totally off topic what a complete clusterfuck!
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: BlueCoyote]
#19391146 - 01/08/14 11:11 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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BlueCoyote said: Anyhow, the fact that someone 'can' do something, doesn't make it 'right' to do....
this is where right and truth are not to be mixed, for rights to be always free and truth always clearly the fact
like anyone has no right to do something.. or to be objective source
but if you do yourself by being you out of everything, it is surely positive through superior high ways of truth, then it is always right and free as long as it involves only you and never change anything in any form
existence is based on that same principle for all
like what only rights exist but then individually by themselves so relatively and objective perspective are known being to absolute truth superiority .. so always left free
at the end, infinite would force being objective existence rights
and relative being rights would be subjects freedom for being true freedom in being existing value, so being rights would be free present source and positive constant reality in being individually true
Edited by absols (01/08/14 11:28 PM)
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Re: If a tree stands in a forest... [Re: Raven Gnosis]
#19391187 - 01/08/14 11:23 PM (10 years, 22 days ago) |
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liquidlounge said: Bear Grylls?
Personally, I think Bear Grylls is FOS and encourages dangerous and foolish behavior coming from a bushcraft and survival perspective.
I've learned a lot more from and have put far more into practical practice from Les Stroud and Ray Mears. 
yeah les is badass, and an incredible teacher.
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what a complete clusterfuck!
Is that what the bears were up to?
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what about trees in forests that bears specifically use them to scratch their backs ??? what is the problem there ?? how are you a bear ? anyway, mental is more who confuse himself with being an animal or that believe animals being real
mental is the limited objective perspective that cannot be right nor through conscious being existence ways
Edited by absols (01/08/14 11:51 PM)
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