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curiouser
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Too many questions about DXM/Delsym
#19349543 - 12/31/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I started taking dxm three years ago and maybe do it once every three-four months whenever I feel like I need to "get my head on straight" or "reset." I've probably done it 15-20 times total. I was planning on doing it tomorrow as a final hurrah to kick the habit, along with many of my other bad habits, for the new year. Yay for resolutions right?
I've never been much into drug culture and have always kept this kind of a secret. So I decided to look up some information on how to make the trip a little more exciting for it being my last time and I discovered that I'm either superhuman or people like me are wildly underrepresented.
I'd seen the DXM FAQ years ago where they say the Fourth Plateau is 15+ mg/kg, and I had done the math and found that I regularly get to or pass that amount - without ever being visited by angels or aliens, sadly. Side note: The South Park episode where they equate heroin use with 'chasing the white rabbit' is a perfect representation of my DXM use - chasing a superior being hallucination.
Anyway, with tonight's research into what I could add to the experience, I started looking at the numbers again. Most people say they trip on 500-1000mg... My few trips - the again, spaced out over months - were on 3 large 5oz bottles of Delsym. And if you do the math suggested by the bottle, that equates to 2664mg. I weigh 175lbs.
I've read sites tonight that say never, ever exceed 2000mg... Now, most of these sites are referring to DXM HBr, but I would assume going beyond that in polystirex isn't good either. Although my last trip was quite pleasant and I didn't even end up throwing up (which I'm usually at least prepared to do if necessary.) I've never had any truly dysphoric effects, the worst that is happened is an upset stomach.
Typically, I drink 40mL every 45 minutes until all three bottles are gone. I've found that chugging is a sure-fire way to throw up and waste it. It takes about 8 hours to down all three, and I'm usually flying high for a good 8 hours after that. 4 hours into starting I'm usually incapable of any kind of concentration - no more video games, just movies.
So I guess my questions are... - Is polystirex just less potent or is the conversion on the bottle wrong? Is that why a) I haven't killed myself and b) I haven't seen any aliens? - Is my tolerance just that high that I can throw the 2000mg limit to the wind? - Does the fact that I drink it slowly over time have anything to do with it?
And then for my tomorrow... which I'm debating on writing a trip report for, since it's my final trip... - I've heard that taking a small amount of diphenhydramine can intensify the trip - I try to avoid mixing drugs, but if it's small... - Should I change up how fast or slow I drink it? I'd really like to catch that white rabbit...
TL;DR According to the conversion of delsym to dxm, I've been taking 2664mg. I only do it once every 3-4 months. How am I not dead? I was planning on doing it again tomorrow, any suggestions?
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lifeiswhatyoumake
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Re: Too many questions about DXM/Delsym [Re: curiouser]
#19349575 - 12/31/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Delsym contains Dextromethorphan Polistirex, which is a longer time-released version of the DXM in Robitussin, which contains Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide. This means that it's much harder to reach 3rd/4th plateus on Dextromethorphan Polistirex because the peak of the Polistirex isn't as intense as the Hydrobromide, although it lasts longer for Polistirex. 2664 mg of Dextromethorphan Dextromethorphan would likely kill you. 2664 mg of Dextromethorphan Polistirex will just mess you up for a looooong time, but not actually reach the DXM-hole. I would seriously recommend not using Dextromethorphan Polistirex to reach a 3rd or 4th plateau. If you must, use the Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide.
Also, you say:
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I was planning on doing it tomorrow as a final hurrah to kick the habit
In my experience, this never works. If you truly want to quit DXM, then quit right now. Trust me, I've been down the DXM path.
Good luck sir! Happy New Years!

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Edited by lifeiswhatyoumake (12/31/13 01:44 AM)
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Re: Too many questions about DXM/Delsym [Re: curiouser]
#19349589 - 12/31/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Take 3 bottles of Robitussin where the only active in DXM Hbr or take an equal amount of Robo gelcaps and tell me you aren't tripping face. You've probably built a DXM tolerance as well. 15-20 times? Probably shouldn't go any further than that if you ask me. DXM has been proven to have severe negative side effects over prolonged use, especially liver damage.
But hey, I'm not here to tell you what to do, I'm just giving you an opinion.
But come on man, over 2000mg? You're gonna really hurt yourself if you keep this up. Safe travels friend.
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curiouser
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Also, you say:
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I was planning on doing it tomorrow as a final hurrah to kick the habit
In my experience, this never works. If you truly want to quit DXM, then quit right now. Trust me, I've been down the DXM path.
Good luck sir! Happy New Years!

I couldn't tell you how many times I've "quit" drinking alcohol. But I have successfully dropped other drugs in the past. Only time will tell I suppose.
I feel like since I only get the craving to do it every few months (usually during a vacation break, like christmas, spring, summer, etc) instead of it being a daily thing, it might be easier.
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curiouser
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: 15-20 times? Probably shouldn't go any further than that if you ask me.
Spread out over 3 years. But yes, I agree... That's kinda why I want to have this one last time and then call it quits.
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: DXM has been proven to have severe negative side effects over prolonged use, especially liver damage.
All of the research and stuff I had read where there was serious effects were for people who did it multiple times a week, in doses similar to or greater than mine. When I was first introduced to this, I did more research than I did for most of my college papers... I couldn't find anything on infrequent use like what I do... If you know of any, I'd be happy to see it. But then again, I'm hoping this is my last time anyway...
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Re: Too many questions about DXM/Delsym [Re: curiouser]
#19349635 - 12/31/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's the thing for me with DXM, it always seemed so easy to quit that I thought it wasn't a problem. You say you don't get the craving except every few months, that's good. However, I used to be that way. I kept using every few months, then I would be using every month, then every 2 weeks, etc. At the peak of my problem, I wouldn't go 10 days without getting extreme cravings.
Basically, I'm just saying that I don't want you do go down the path I went down. It took a lot to break the habit. I'd recommend you break the habit now.
I'm not trying to scare you because you might have everything completely under control and stuff. I'm just letting you know that I used to think I had it under control, then one day I realized I had a problem.
I can't tell you how many times I "used DXM for the last time".
My DXM phase lasted about 4 years until I finally quit.
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Edited by lifeiswhatyoumake (12/31/13 02:01 AM)
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Re: Too many questions about DXM/Delsym [Re: curiouser]
#19349657 - 12/31/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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curiouser said:
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: 15-20 times? Probably shouldn't go any further than that if you ask me.
Spread out over 3 years. But yes, I agree... That's kinda why I want to have this one last time and then call it quits.
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: DXM has been proven to have severe negative side effects over prolonged use, especially liver damage.
All of the research and stuff I had read where there was serious effects were for people who did it multiple times a week, in doses similar to or greater than mine. When I was first introduced to this, I did more research than I did for most of my college papers... I couldn't find anything on infrequent use like what I do... If you know of any, I'd be happy to see it. But then again, I'm hoping this is my last time anyway...
Yeah, I'm not trying to be "that guy" who tells you what is right and wrong and what is good and what is bad for your body/mind. Thanks for the understanding.
If it's been over the course of 3 years I'm sure your fine. It's just that when I took a moderately high dose of DXM, it just didn't feel right you know? Like I knew this was actually bad for me compared to other stuff. For example, like how weed is bad for your lungs, but come on, no way it's as bad for your lungs as DXM is for your liver. Just a gut feeling I got...don't really have any scientific evidence to back it up.
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Biggest dose of dxm I ever took was 480mg, and I forgot I existed, but didn't hallucinate at all. It was blurry reality or sheer nothingness. The last 2 times I did dxm, it was just a really unpleasant experience. It's been quite a while since the last one. I won't be doing it again.
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Re: Too many questions about DXM/Delsym [Re: curiouser]
#19352107 - 12/31/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reason: wrong forum.
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