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First Casings have small fruits?
    #19349341 - 12/31/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hello shroomerites,
I have been lurking here for a while and I am glad to finally be able to post even if its with concerns. I am currently towards the end of the first flush of my 3rd round of mushroom cultivation and this time I have attempted a casing. I cased a quart of wbs colonized by mazapatec in 50/50 verm/coir with a total substrate depth of about two inches. I am fruiting in a SGFC and have been misting and fanning every two hours or so. I have the best pinset I have accomplished so far but the substrate has started to shrink and while I am sure I am toward the end of fruiting, none of my mushroom are much bigger than 3 inches tall, but as you will see in the picture I dont think any of them are aborting from what I can tell. Is this normal, or based on what I have been reading I am curious if this is a humidity problem


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: Silvertip]
    #19349368 - 12/31/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

With larger pinsets the mushrooms tend to be of a little smaller stature and will have a few more aborts because the substrate can only support so much growth. Also the name of the on that tek is Damion50/50, the tek is actually more 70/30, just to clear that up.


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: mushmagic]
    #19349376 - 12/31/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

looks like more of a substrate moisture issue which is common when fruits start sucking the moisture out, and a coir casing tek is 50/50...just to clear that up:wink:


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: cronicr]
    #19349382 - 12/31/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you can pur a little water around the edges and give them a heavy mist


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: mushmagic]
    #19349385 - 12/31/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you, since you didn't mention anything I am guessing things aren't looking too bad. I am always so paranoid when it comes to these kinds of things. I used the damion tek but didnt use any lime. Would I be better off next time using more coir then since you said it should be more like 70/30?


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: cronicr]
    #19349389 - 12/31/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My bad I must have read that post a tad bit too fast I thought it was spawned to bulk. Thanks for clearing that up though cronic:smirk:


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: mushmagic]
    #19349391 - 12/31/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Silvertip said:
Thank you, since you didn't mention anything I am guessing things aren't looking too bad.



looks great:congrats:
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mushmagic said:
My bad I must have read that post a tad bit too fast I thought it was spawned to bulk. Thanks for clearing that up though cronic:smirk:



maybe i misread it lol!


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: cronicr]
    #19349407 - 12/31/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol I think it was just a little misscommunication. And OP yes i would personally use a little more coir to verm next time:thumbup:


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: mushmagic]
    #19349417 - 12/31/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:lmafo:


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: Silvertip]
    #19349437 - 12/31/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Silvertip said:
Thank you, since you didn't mention anything I am guessing things aren't looking too bad. I am always so paranoid when it comes to these kinds of things. I used the damion tek but didnt use any lime. Would I be better off next time using more coir then since you said it should be more like 70/30?



It may help to use a higher percentage of coir next time.  The formulation of 50% coir/50% verm would be more suitable as a top casing layer, whereas the 70/30% mix may be better for the bulk substrate.  Im trying to get you pointed in a direction that will help your studies.  Im adding some things to use the search function to poke around and read.  Please don't think I am insulting.  I do my best to help when I can.

Casing is a tricky term.  A casing layer is a top layer added @ full colonization to aid in creating ideal climates for pin formation.  Search function: Late casing tek

Casing grain is basically plopping a wad of hydrated mass atop of a pile of grain.  I have never done this method, which is why I am not specific with adjectives.  Search Function : cased grain

Bulk is a term more specific to what you are doing.  You are evenly mixing grains in a semi-nutritious mix.  This is a "Bulk substrate".  The most common bulk substrate is coir + verm @ 70/30% ratio.  Others include horse manure and straw.  search function: Bulk substrate.

Overall, it don't look bad.  I would ditch the aluminum pan in the future or use a trash bag liner.  That is one thing that I would really change.  Cubes have been known to eat through them pans.  Using a liner will do 2 things.  It will shrink with your substrate and cling to the sides.  This will help negate "side pins", and it will also keep the substrate off the aluminum.

I hope that helps a bit.  For a 3rd attempt, you have surpassed me.  I think my 3rd attempt ended with something looking and smelling like vomit.


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Re: First Casings have small fruits? [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19349458 - 12/31/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I understand casings and bulk, and this is definitely not a bulk run. I have a quart of birdseed sandwiched between my casing layers, as a casing should be. Thanks for the idea of using plastic, as even with a casing layer it seems like it could really help with side pins. I will probably move away from the metal pans ins the near future when I move on to monotubs and bulk runs. I wanted to do something kinda small so all my eggs weren't in one basket.


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